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West Fork Rd. is NOT Northside.  I don't know quite what that area is, but this house is 1.4 miles from Hoffner Park.  Flippers and realtors have brought their hype machine west of Colerain Ave. in a big way 2016-2017.  Putz's is the new Oakley.
Architecture, Environmental, and Preservation / Re: Tiny houses
« Last post by jmecklenborg on Today at 02:47:51 AM »
One level living right in the heart of Northside! Eat in kitchen w/stainless appliances, modern luxe bathroom + off street parking - everything you need and want! Walkable to the business district, parks, and greenspaces. Join Tiny House Nation and enjoy financial freedom, a simpler lifestyle, and limit your environmental footprint!
A garage was planned for the solar panel parking lot.  Vine St. was widened expressly to enable construction of that garage.  The zoo never publicized why the garage was dropped from the plan.  OKI also studied construction of light rail on Vine and Erkenbrecker as an alternative to light rail parallel to MLK.  The station was going to be right there around Shields and Louis. 

I lived there 20 years ago when the solar panel parking lot was a steeply-sloped wooded ravine that separated Vine St. from Ruther.  There was a 7-story green office building right by Shields that had a surface lot at a lower level than Vine.  There was some sort of Catholic convent or or something deep in the ravine that was accessed off of Ruther. 
Current Events / Re: In The World: Russia
« Last post by KJP on Today at 02:09:18 AM »
The monitor killed in Ukraine was American. Mine planted in Russia-backed area. What's the WH reaction going to be?
^I probably will never go to a donatos,  nor a UDF.   I have pizza choices out the yin yang. I have 10 pizza places near me. I can have a $5 pizza on mondays or tuesdays at lizard. I can visit quality places in cle and akr the other days of the week and all about.
  I prefer going to custard joints if i'm having ice cream.  That is usually more expensive than reg ice cream. 
  The average amount people make between cities will not explain why clevelanders do not apprecriate the same exact brands as you. 
I do enjoy skyline but i don't live off it. I may go to skyline 2-3x a year, too many other interesting places to visit in Northeast Ohio.
While it's great to see retail space being included, something should definitely be done to enliven the blank walls along the rest of the ground level - murals, mosaics, vines/trellis structures, etc.

I agree with @Toddguy that the height is not really a big deal here. This is proposed for a very tiny dirt lot on the corner of that block, not including the existing parking lots on either side. Maybe they could add another stack of units to get it to 6, but that's pushing it, especially when Edwards likes to include 2 parking spaces per unit with these...

(Also this looks weird in that rendering partly because it's being shown in parallel projection, not perspective. I think in real life this will not be so bad, and actually kind of fit the site.)
I guess we'd need to settle on a definition of cosmopolitan. Though I agree, preference for chains doesn't seem to equate to cosmopolitan behavior. My guess would be that David was using the word to mean that Cleveland is more closed off to outside ideas and influences, based on his observations over the lack of success chains found in Cleveland.

Since this thread inexplicably hasn't been shut down yet, I'll throw this out there. Maybe chains are more hesitant to enter the Cleveland market (and have a harder time succeeding) because of demographics and regional population loss. If we're making hypotheses about this observed lack of chains, that should at least be added to the discussion. Cleveland has a lower average income and its population is less educated than Cincinnati's and Columbus', and Cleveland has been losing population from the city and region for a while. Most chains make location decisions based almost purely on numbers and demographics. Seems like a viable explanation to accompany the natural distaste of chains in the region.

Very doubtful.  We're talking about Skyline Chili and UDF, not Saks Fifth Ave., Nordstrom, Whole Foods, etc..... all of which have a presence here in the Cleveland MSA.  And the median income difference is what?.... a few thousand?  Cleveland's is surely depressed by more poverty in the inner-city.  The higher wage jobs are just as prevalent.   

Dude... It's not just a few thousand. I was debating whether or not it's reasonable to believe that a few thousand / year median difference might actually have a noticeable impact and was actually leaning towards 'yes' but I just looked up the statistics and apparently there's a much, much broader gap. These stats include the city's MSA which is fairly all-inclusive and relevant. Comparing Columbus and Cleveland's city proper (and especially Cincinnati's) is comparing apples to oranges, considering Columbus is much larger due to annexation of suburbs but this is one of the most fair comparisons and there's still a very stark contrast.

Median household income - Metro Columbus: $58,192
Median household income - Metro Cleveland: $51,049
Median household income - Metro Cincinnati: $56,826

That's a very noticeable difference in purchasing power between the major Ohio metros.

The difference in income between the two metros of Columbus and Cleveland is literally enough for someone to live off of (with mostly basic necessities of course.) I had no idea that such a disparity existed.

I still contend that some of the brands I've mentioned (Donatos and UDF for example,) are premium brands - in the sense that their products are of quality and more on the expensive side, yet they struggle or fail in Cleveland because consumers up here tend to not want to pay premium prices, even if it means they're getting quality.

Disdain for premium brands may be due in some part to lower overall income but then again, being less flashy or hoity-toity and being more conservative with money seems to be the culture of Clevelanders, compared with than the other 2 C's. I'm definitely not bashing it - I actually admire that attitude and lifestyle for the most part. I've definitely noticed that even folks in Cleveland who have a lot of disposable money, will complain about the ridiculousness of prices at various places and refuse to the spend money, based on principle alone. I just feel that a lot of these mid or southern Ohio chains are actually really good and worthy of prospering up here but... just don't.
^They do realize it. They are just stuck with regard to parking. Almost all of the visitors to the zoo are families that drive to the zoo for the day, and they bring their cars, or more likely, their SUV's and Minivans.

If you are the zoo, what could you do better? Tell your visitors to ride the bus? Build a parking garage? Turn them away when the parking lots are full?

Give them credit for staying in Cincinnati, please. They could have moved to Warren County and built a giant parking lot like Kings Island.

The Zoo gets their funding from Hamilton County. I'm not sure how they could even move to a different county logistically. There's no chance that the surrounding counties with their anti-tax attitudes would ever enact a tax to fund the Zoo.
On-street parking is going to be difficult in the eastern part of OTR this week. Utility work is about to begin on Orchard Street and "no parking" signs have been posted on the entire north side of the street. Parking continues to be restricted on Sycamore and 13th due to Ziegler Park construction. People are parking in the Ziegler Park garage now, but I think it's just Alumni Lofts residents; I don't think it's open to the public yet.
Urbanbar / Re: The YouTube Thread
« Last post by David on Yesterday at 11:02:12 PM »
I know that, It's just that in this day and age, NYC seems like it should be irrelevant for the fields of marketing and advertising to most of the nation. NYC tends to have the best of the best in almost every field (but lets be honest - a monkey could get a marketing degree and millions of nerds all over the U.S. have fantastic video editing skills; you just look up a couple tutorials) and that commercial isn't even remarkable, impressive or very creative. Those firms that handle marketing and advertising, exist in every city but the cost of renting a place in Tribeca and paying a marketing firm in NYC where the cost of living is so much higher, doesn't make any sense to me. I'm sure it's chump change and no sweat off their back, but if I was the one calling the shots at Wendy's, I don't think I would go for that. Aside from an inherent desire to network locally and help local businesses, I'm a firm believer in physical distance still being relevant. If you're in charge of overseeing these marketing/ad projects, I imagine it makes it easier to not only build rapport but truly be involved in it when said firms are physically nearby.
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