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Urbanbar / Re: Cutting the Cord
« Last post by GCrites80s on Today at 12:52:40 PM »
Yeah we didn't have cable at all when I went to college.  There wasn't even a lounge with a TV.  So people occasionally played Ping-Pong but mostly drank and got high in their dorm rooms.  And listened to music.  It's amazing how all of this free access to music has caused people to listen to it less and less intently because the internet is generally such a gigantic distraction. 

Indeed. They listen to the first minute and a half of the song then open up the Wikipedia page for the band and read that aloud to each other.
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I'll really get excited about this project if I see some action, and not just talk, from Stark... I would, or will, feel a lot better once 515/Beacon gets a shovel in the ground.
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Does anyone know what is going in at Starkweather and Scranton.  It looks like something being constructed by Scalish Brothers but I cannot find any information on their site. 
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Current Events / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by clvlndr on Today at 12:39:23 PM »
This Scaramucci fool, is a crude, rude, uncivilized loud mouth who has know inkling of class or dignified behavior...

... oh yeah, he fits right in with this Administration!
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Ohio Business and Economy / Re: Columbus: General Business & Economic News
« Last post by casey on Today at 12:30:05 PM »
City council appears to be moving quickly to approve an incentives package assumed to be intended for Foxconn. They are reportedly considering a site near Rickenbacker airport for a major investment/operation...

City council crafting incentives for firms with big plans

Columbus City Council will consider tax incentive legislation on Monday aimed at attracting large companies that plan to invest heavily in jobs and operations at a time when Columbus is competing to land Asian electronics giant Foxconn.

The legislation appeared late Thursday on the agenda for Monday’s meeting, and while city officials weren’t returning calls to explain the incentive, the legislation could be geared toward any company Columbus is pursuing for “new non-retail operations.”

Companies seeking the incentive also must create at least 1,000 new, non-retail, full-time positions, with the jobs paying at least $15 an hour, and generate at least $1 million in net-profits tax to the city a year.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170727/city-council-crafting-incentives-for-firms-with-big-plans
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Mass Transit / Re: Greater Cleveland RTA News & Discussion
« Last post by clvlndr on Today at 12:28:14 PM »
But here in Cleveland riding RTA is considered a faux pas for public officials or anyone, public or private, with any status for that matter...  Jane Campbell grew up in Shaker and, when mayor, lived on Drexmore a block from the Blue and Green lines near Shaker Square -- her City Hall office was adjacent to the WFL stop on E. 9th-- she would have had a straight, 1-seat shot to work... And yet she never set foot on a Rapid her entire time in office choosing to be chauffeured in a City car limo... It's why transit struggles to gain any meaningful support from local officals.

Yep, because "planners" in the early days of the system refused to make any concessions whatsoever to the desires or preferences of those with other options.  As a result, transit became a de facto "social program".  I'm not sure how to fix that at this point, or even if it can be done.   

I'm not sure who you mean by planners from the early days -- the Van Sweringens?  Donald Hyde?  Bert Porter?  Len Ronis?
But I don't buy the "social program" angle, and if people see transit that way, they need to be publicly corrected...

I do know that, after RTA was created in the 1970s, everybody was into transit.  When my mom was confident enough to let me ride downtown alone on the Shaker Rapid to meet my dad "by the cigar shop" near the Rapid's ancient, subway-like escalator up from wooden platforms, people were streaming to/from rapid cars... Transit interest lasted as long as commuters existed, and when downtown seriously declined business/office-wise, ridership went with it, because downtown was pretty much dead after 7p... (Higbee's late closing nights, Wednesdays?  did keep some shopper buzz after hours, but...). 

And as much as people bash the Waterfront Line today has this expensive, waste of time, in the 80s and 90s, planners, leaders and biz folks (including Jeff Jacobs) embraced the idea, the Bicentennial commission backed it, Mayor White backed it, Mayor-turned-governor Voinovich engineered direct state funding in order to bypass the red tape of the Feds, ... and the thing got built.  And yes, it was well patronized on weekends when FEB bars, restaurants and clubs were packed -- and Flats' festivals were ubiquitous, and RTA back in the day often ran 2-car trains on weekends... And quality restaurants, like the old Watermark, even printed maps directing patrons from trains to the restaurant ... and back.

But a new mentality has emerged among local leaders since thing.  Somehow, now, with our new, rejuvenated and exciting Cleveland, esp downtown and in those neighborhoods, we've suddenly become too cool for transit.  Many suburbanites and those in outer Cleveland hoods look at you funny if you mention taking the Rapid, even if they know it's going to be crazy crowded downtown -- they'd rather drive...

I believe much of this has been encouraged by RTA's current administration where, now, many Clevelanders, logically so, don't trust the Rapid -- can't rely on it; don't know when their line is going to be open or closed; don't know, even when it's open, whether they have to walk up a Mt. Everest of stairs in Tower City during the Track 8 reconstruction but the elevator -- the 1 elevator! -- was broken down...

... and our pols have gone along with this mentality.  Transit is almost completely ignored by the mayor and city councilmen ... accept when there's a grand opening, like the excellent, spanking new, relocated Little Italy Red Line stop, where Mayor Jackson, and his trusty, nationally famous aide and RTA envoy, Valarie McCall, bask in the spotlight to wield pairs of giant scissors at ribbon cuttings.       

So we're left with waiting for that Angel Pol/Administrator that gets it (like Chris Ronayne at UCI) or an Angel Developer, like MRN or Tony Panzica (at Uptown, Centric), or even NOACA's new boss Grace Gallucci (who has been impressive so far) to do the right thing.  Without them, where would we be?  Our advocates are either not focused enough, or maybe sometimes misguided (like attacking the Waterfront Line while advocating more buses)... It was great to see folks motivated enough to make noise about the Public Square debacle last year -- even though I still, personally, don't like buses going through the middle and hate those ugly concrete freeway barriers now, I enjoyed seeing the transit passion (and I do get the $Millions lost due to the rerouted buses -- I just believe plans should have been made for a compromise ahead of time that could have satisfied all parties)...

... My hopes are also leavened by the millennials who live downtown ... and in those neighborhoods, who freely ride the buses and trains and BRTs and Trolleys... They are demanding quality transit by there actions... But with out serious organization, advocacy and more NOISE ... the pols, the business types and others, will continue to shunt transit to the back burner of the public consciousness.   Old Rapid cars will continue to decline and fail to the point where we're considering Rapid Line, or system, closures... I guess, maybe then the riding public will get motivated....
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Sports Talk / Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Last post by Mendo on Today at 12:15:10 PM »
Who besides Kyrie would you give up to make that deal? We don't have the roster spots for that many guys in return, so there'd have to be some throw-in players to make it work.
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Roads & Biking / Re: Cincinnati: Interstate 75 "Thru the Valley"
« Last post by BigDipper 80 on Today at 12:11:48 PM »
^ I felt that the little concrete arches along the railings were a nice touch that mirrored the railing along Central Parkway, but it doesn't look that great painted with that anti-graffiti paint, big fences, and out-of-scale streetlights mounted on it. One of the best "highway trenches" I've seen in person is probably the stretch of I-35 north of downtown Duluth - that whole area was landscaped really well with a nice, modern motif that wasn't over the top and still seems to be holding up. Meanwhile ODOT is building weird ugly fake-stone highway overpasses in Lima that don't make any contextual sense.
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Now that the OhioHealth office development has started construction, the so-called "pinball" exit ramp from 315 to North Broadway has closed.  This aerial view from http://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20170724/route-315-to-north-broadway-city-excises-exit-before-work-begins shows the ramp section that has been closed:

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Roads & Biking / Re: Cincinnati: Interstate 75 "Thru the Valley"
« Last post by LtCheese on Today at 11:57:26 AM »
The Split was one of those great sections of old expressway that had a bunch of character, especially when that old factory was standing on the east side of it still. Most of Ohio's freeways lack that level of intrigue, fast speeds and safety be damned.

With that being said, I hope ODOT doesn't do some stupid "make it look vintage" thing like they tried to do around Mitchell and Hopple. Just a simple, utilitarian trench like we have in FWW will be fine.

But I guess that isn't cool anymore.
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