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to be honest the modern look and the elevation renders were so exciting i barely registered the white facade addition. its great to see and no doubt will be a hit with subscribers and everybody.
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Aviation / Re: Cleveland Hopkins International Airport
« Last post by Dougal on Today at 11:26:36 PM »
You don't mean a nonstop to Honolulu, right?

UA used to fly CLE-HNL on a 747 during their first hub days.

With a stop in Chicago, I believe.
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Non-Ohio Projects & Construction / Re: NYC: World Trade Center
« Last post by mrnyc on Today at 11:22:38 PM »
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Aviation / Re: Cleveland Hopkins International Airport
« Last post by Groyd on Today at 11:00:40 PM »
I did a bit of research and found that a 752 w/ P&W engines has a range of 4521 miles. The distance between CLE and HNL is about 4550. Still, I don't think Allegiant, or any airline will fly directly to Honolulu, at least for a  little while. I can't think of any cities in the Midwest not called Chicago (or Minneapolis) with a nonstop to Hawaii. Is there ample demand to sustain this route somewhere in the range of Kansas City to Nashville to Pittsburgh and the cities in between?
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Barrio is Condado?!

Wow. Yeah, I can tell by the murals when I looked it up on Google, that it's the same place or similar. That's insane.

Why can't they just be Barrio for brand recognition? There's tons of Clevelanders roaming around Columbus that would instantly recognize it. I wonder if the menu and concept are the same. I saw it there on N. High before I moved up here but I've never went there while down there. Honestly, I don't think that Condado sh!t is working in Columbus, They need to stick to Barrio's raw concept. If I remember correctly, Condado just looks like a really shady night club.

I know for a fact that they are owned by the same people.  The menu's and concept are the exact same. Condado very much so is working in Columbus seeing as how they have 3 locations that are all always packed.  The "original" Condado is located in a place that was oddly enough one of the diviest dive bars in Columbus so you are right there  :-).  However it is a pretty nice little atmosphere and they have a great patio.

Barrio's co-founder sold his share in Barrio - then founded the similar Condado in Columbus as a potential national testing ground. They don't appear to be/have been sister concepts from the same company:

http://www.thelantern.com/2014/11/condado-tacos-giving-columbus-a-test-2/

My apologies, to clarify at the time they inquired with my former employer he was still affiliated with Barrio.  Did not realize he cut ties with them in the meantime.  As far as the menu and concept is concerned they are the exact same thing with small variances; I've been to both several times.
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Aviation / Re: Cleveland Hopkins International Airport
« Last post by Pugu on Today at 10:13:28 PM »
You don't mean a nonstop to Honolulu, right?

UA used to fly CLE-HNL on a 747 during their first hub days.
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Barrio is Condado?!

Wow. Yeah, I can tell by the murals when I looked it up on Google, that it's the same place or similar. That's insane.

Why can't they just be Barrio for brand recognition? There's tons of Clevelanders roaming around Columbus that would instantly recognize it. I wonder if the menu and concept are the same. I saw it there on N. High before I moved up here but I've never went there while down there. Honestly, I don't think that Condado sh!t is working in Columbus, They need to stick to Barrio's raw concept. If I remember correctly, Condado just looks like a really shady night club.

I know for a fact that they are owned by the same people.  The menu's and concept are the exact same. Condado very much so is working in Columbus seeing as how they have 3 locations that are all always packed.  The "original" Condado is located in a place that was oddly enough one of the diviest dive bars in Columbus so you are right there  :-).  However it is a pretty nice little atmosphere and they have a great patio.

Barrio's co-founder sold his share in Barrio - then founded the similar Condado in Columbus as a potential national testing ground. They don't appear to be/have been sister concepts from the same company:

http://www.thelantern.com/2014/11/condado-tacos-giving-columbus-a-test-2/
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^I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I've lived in Columbus for 12 years and I don't find it all that different than the other 2C's. Yes, it's a little younger, but in terms of being more modern or foward, I just don't see the difference. Maybe it's just me.
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I think melts hey Day is behind them. I still go there because it's a great place to take the kid.

I feel like they decided on an odd road for expansion- they built this urban/hipster vibe, with the tatted up servers and funky album cover menus, then tried to export it to the most staid suburbs they could find. It does well in the short run that way, as everyone wants to try "that place what's on the tee-vee" in their local strip mall, but it blows the whole hipster vibe to hell.  But it's a great place to take the kids now, I guess.
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I have been eating penn station in the cleveland area for well over a decade, maybe two decades. I believe I could recall going to one in rocky river in the late 90's, early 2000's. It's good stuff. High calorie but solid.

To your point about clevelanders not being flashy. Yes and no. Depends on the people, just like any city. You go to a Cavs game, you will see every suburban wife trying to act like they are a celebrity at a Lakers game, dressed tonthe 9's, feeling great about themselves.  Then there are places like Lakewood and shaker, where you could come across actual millionaires and not know it. I don't think that's any different than cincy or Columbus. Although Columbus people use Ohio State as a means to show clout ( thousands of dollars to tailgates, tickets, that whole dog and pony show). Yawn.


I 1,000% agree with you about the suburban wives/girls at Cavs games;  I have never got that and is kind of why I left Cleveland never to return.

Columbus outside of spending money on Ohio State is a much more forward and modern way of how a cities are today; it's a lot younger than the two C's and almost nobody is actually from there.  People of all walks of life casually mingle together much more and it's like how you describe Lakewood/Shaker, sitting next to a millionaire without even knowing it. It is a very trendy yet casual place, very hard to describe unless you live there or have visited often.  You rarely see a 30 year old wearing a flat-bill and I like that.

I will say too that those in Central Ohio are not afraid to flash their "money" at the same time; I'm a HUGE car fan and Columbus is a mecca for exotic cars.  Whereas in Cleveland or Cincinnati you have to go to certain parts of town to catch a rare glimpse of one, in Columbus they are almost commonplace at all times of the year.
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