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How many games will the Indians win in 2017?

100+
5 (13.9%)
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70-79
0 (0%)
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1 (2.8%)

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4655 on: September 13, 2017, 03:01:28 PM »
WHOOHOOO!!!!

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4656 on: September 13, 2017, 03:06:21 PM »
29k for a noon game.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4657 on: September 13, 2017, 03:08:04 PM »
Great walk-up crowd! The bleachers were still half-empty going into the second inning. And congrats on the Cleveland Indians having sole possession of the American League record for consecutive wins. Their winning streak, at 21, can now legally drink alcohol!!
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« Reply #4658 on: September 13, 2017, 04:09:42 PM »
I for one would like to see more day games. So many locals complain about coming back downtown and finding parking for a weeknight game. A day game you're already parked at work and it's only a matter of taking a half day.
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« Reply #4659 on: September 13, 2017, 07:31:21 PM »
I for one would like to see more day games. So many locals complain about coming back downtown and finding parking for a weeknight game. A day game you're already parked at work and it's only a matter of taking a half day.

Or just maybe they could take RTA.  Novel idea, eh?

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4660 on: September 13, 2017, 07:47:23 PM »
I like to go to dinner/happy hour and then to the game.   No need to go home after work.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4661 on: September 13, 2017, 08:43:16 PM »
Not everyone lives your lifestyle. 
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4662 on: September 13, 2017, 08:49:07 PM »
and not everyone can take half a day off to go to a ballgame.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4663 on: September 13, 2017, 09:24:37 PM »
The Red Line west out of Tower City had a huge postgame crowd.   

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4664 on: September 13, 2017, 10:09:53 PM »
What a great time to be a Cleveland sports fan! (Especially for those of us who go back to  the many forgettable Indians teams before the great 90's run.)  Hats off to an historic accomplishment by the Indians and kudos to the team's supporters, especially the fans st the ballpark.  Great to see such a fantastic story putting the CLE in the national (and Internstional) media - and we've certainly been in that spotlight quite a bit in the last year and a half.  Whether this streak continues or not - Exciting to think that the best is hopefully yet to come for the Indians this post- season... Go Tribe!

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4665 on: September 14, 2017, 09:32:06 AM »
yeah this run is great fun -- errrbody is coming up to me and talkin tribe in nyc these days lol.

i dont care too much about the old mlb consecutive win record, but i do hope they win tonight to get past the tie with the cubs. it would be just a bit of revenge for now!
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« Reply #4666 on: September 14, 2017, 10:11:43 AM »
As a CLE sports fan for several decades now, this is uncharted waters for me (and all of us)-- definitely in a fun way.  Our Cavs actually won a championship last year and they're still most pundits' pick to make the finals again (which would be 4 straight years).  And now this Indians team that went 11 innings into Game 7 in what was one of the more memorable World Series' of all time ... and now this historic streak.  It just feels damn weird to have Cleveland as THE center of the sports world on so many levels... I'm lovin' it.  And with this stacked Indians ball club and with this particular manager, not only are we a strong bet to return to the World Series and possibly win the thing this time, we're likely to hang around the top for some years to come...

... and, oh yeah, even the Browns have some promise for the future... Again, weird!...

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4667 on: September 14, 2017, 12:45:55 PM »
Even though the article abided by the rule that all positive articles must have at minimum several pot shots against Cleveland, this was overall a pleasant read:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/as-indians-stack-wins-in-record-streak-a-new-label-emerges-americas-team/ar-AArTQUM?li=BBnb7Kz

As Indians stack wins in record streak, a new label emerges: America's Team

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4668 on: September 14, 2017, 08:06:40 PM »
Tribe will pass Philly tonight in attendance.  Probably will pass Baltimore and Minny soon, I don't think they will catch Arizona...so I think they will finish 21st in majors. It's a strong jump and again the Dolans will take it. Another deep run this year and season tickets will be gobbled up big time.  I would expect another big jump to top 15 next year.  Remember, the capacity is much smaller than LA, NY, St. L, Boston, Colorado, etc, they will
Never eclipse them regardless of sellouts

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4669 on: September 14, 2017, 10:22:46 PM »
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4670 on: September 14, 2017, 10:28:12 PM »
I can't believe it...
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4671 on: September 14, 2017, 10:34:55 PM »
That was the most playoff like regular season game I have ever seen. The Tribe now has THE LONGEST UNINTERRUPTED WINNING STREAK IN MAJOR LEAGUE HISTORY!

Replay of the 10th inning walk off: https://streamable.com/902c3

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4672 on: September 14, 2017, 10:44:29 PM »
Longest win streak in the history of baseball.  #rolltribe

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4673 on: September 15, 2017, 12:07:58 AM »
Tribe will pass Philly tonight in attendance.  Probably will pass Baltimore and Minny soon, I don't think they will catch Arizona...so I think they will finish 21st in majors. It's a strong jump and again the Dolans will take it. Another deep run this year and season tickets will be gobbled up big time.  I would expect another big jump to top 15 next year.  Remember, the capacity is much smaller than LA, NY, St. L, Boston, Colorado, etc, they will
Never eclipse them regardless of sellouts

31k tonight.  It's picking up.   This weekend is sure to sell out in bigly-big-league fashion!
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4674 on: September 15, 2017, 12:56:40 AM »
Longest win streak in the history of baseball.  #rolltribe
New York won 26 in a row.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4675 on: September 15, 2017, 01:25:22 AM »
Tribe will pass Philly tonight in attendance.  Probably will pass Baltimore and Minny soon, I don't think they will catch Arizona...so I think they will finish 21st in majors. It's a strong jump and again the Dolans will take it. Another deep run this year and season tickets will be gobbled up big time.  I would expect another big jump to top 15 next year.  Remember, the capacity is much smaller than LA, NY, St. L, Boston, Colorado, etc, they will
Never eclipse them regardless of sellouts

31k tonight.  It's picking up.   This weekend is sure to sell out in bigly-big-league fashion!

Boom.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4676 on: September 15, 2017, 02:15:58 AM »
Longest win streak in the history of baseball.  #rolltribe
New York won 26 in a row.
That can be a somewhat contentious point as an asterisk has traditionally been added to the Giants 1916 streak because of a "tie" on September, 18 against Pittsburgh in what would have been their 13th straight win. The game ended 1-1 in the eight do to a rain delay and not being able to play at night. This game would technically be made up (by playing a whole new game) the next day in a double header.

So yes, technically the 1916 Giants have a 4 game longer unbeaten streak than the Tribe as of tonight. This unbeaten streak should be put in some context though. It was in the dead-ball era, during a 30 game home stand in a baseball world 5 years before the radio and 30 years before integration. That isn't  trying to nullify the accomplishments of that team 101 years ago, however the radical differences in the game should be acknowledged.

The 22nd straight victory of the Tribe is definitively the longest in the AL, the longest in the modern era and longer than the 1935 Cubs record. The win tonight may not have broken the 1916 Giants* record, but it is a once in a lifetime (or every 100 year) experience for not only for Cleveland, but the entire country. The Tribe is also finally getting the national media attention they deserve, endearing themselves to much of the country. Getting the next 5 to pass the Giants will be difficult though as they would have to come against two teams fighting for the Wild Card (KC and Anaheim) compared to the Toledo Mud Hens a couple of days ago.

TL;DR - Technically the 1916 Giants tie game was replayed in the middle of their 26 consecutive game win streak.

The Indians also clinched a playoff spot with the Angels loss tonight. 
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4677 on: September 15, 2017, 07:14:49 AM »
^^^New York didn't lose 26 in a row. Theres a difference
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« Reply #4678 on: September 15, 2017, 07:35:38 AM »
I never understood why they include the teams with ties, even with an asterisk.  There's a difference between a "winning streak" and a "not losing streak".

Sorry, just read NorthShore's comment.  So if the game was replayed, did the tie actually count or was the game simply postponed?  How does that work when the game would have been official had it not been a tie?  Does this mean they played an extra game that year due to the tie?
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4679 on: September 15, 2017, 07:55:05 AM »
That New York game doesn't show on their record as a tie. It was replayed from scratch as a new game, which the Giants won. The record is 26 wins in a row - no asterisks.

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« Reply #4680 on: September 15, 2017, 09:14:52 AM »
^Agreed.  The New York Giants "tie" game was not a 9 inning game (they only played 8 before rain / darkness halted the game) and they won the full game makeup (rule at the time) the next day.  They won a legitimate 26 games in a row.
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« Reply #4681 on: September 15, 2017, 09:19:20 AM »
^ I stand corrected.  I did not realize that the tie game was made up.  Indians just need to win 5 more then.

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« Reply #4682 on: September 15, 2017, 09:26:43 AM »
Eh..still gets an Asterisk...when you play 9+ innings of baseball and are tied and have to reschedule because they didnt have lights...you are one swing of the bat away from losing...then...to eliminate all that risk and start from scratch the next day?  That deserves an asterisk, sorry

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« Reply #4683 on: September 15, 2017, 09:29:40 AM »
^ It appears that they did not complete the 9 inning game.  And the official rules of the time stated that incomplete games had to be replayed from scratch and the game was replayed the next day.  MLB did not record tie games as official games.  The Giants did win those games during a 31 game home stand though but those were the rules of the time.
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« Reply #4684 on: September 15, 2017, 09:31:57 AM »
My only concern of poo-pooing the 1916 Giants achievements is that the Indians first WS win was only four years later in 1920 and it's quite possible we may have a recreation of that WS -- Dodgers-Indians -- this year. Where do we draw the line? I've always felt records should stand up to 1901 because that's when the AL and NL came together to form the "modern" league. Elias goes to far including those franchises from the 1800s.
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« Reply #4685 on: September 15, 2017, 09:52:19 AM »
I would consider 1901 to be the beginning of the "modern" era as well. 

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« Reply #4686 on: September 15, 2017, 10:54:48 AM »
I for one would like to see more day games. So many locals complain about coming back downtown and finding parking for a weeknight game. A day game you're already parked at work and it's only a matter of taking a half day.

Or just maybe they could take RTA.  Novel idea, eh?
I would have no problem with that if it didn't take an hour to get there on a bus instead of 15 min in a car.
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4687 on: September 15, 2017, 12:18:17 PM »
An interesting note to this talk of the 1916 Giants tie game: although the tie game was started over from scratch and played as a brand new game, the players individual stats from the tie game were not nullified, but stood.

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« Reply #4688 on: September 15, 2017, 12:24:24 PM »
An interesting note to this talk of the 1916 Giants tie game: although the tie game was started over from scratch and played as a brand new game, the players individual stats from the tie game were not nullified, but stood.

Elias explained this on ESPN yesterday. MLB views the stats from the original unfinished game in the same vein as a pitcher getting a no-decision.

Regardless of what streak is real the 2017 Indians are wedged between two streaks from 1935 and 1916! That alone is history. This will never happen again in most people lifetimes for ANY MLB team, the "almighty" Red Sox and Yankees included.
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