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How many games will the Indians win in 2017?

100+
5 (13.9%)
90-99
28 (77.8%)
80-89
2 (5.6%)
70-79
0 (0%)
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4620 on: September 12, 2017, 09:49:01 AM »
I long for the day when people stop whining about attendance. My gosh, the organization is making money, the players absolutely love playing for this organization, the ticket sales have jumped almost 50% over last year. The whole town is hooked and engaged, whether they are there or not. What is the big deal????

Sorry, it's not whining but stating a fact.  There's no way a team of this high caliber, and we've been this way for most of Francona's tenure, and esp after last year's thriller playoffs/World Series, should be drawing 18K on a (then) 18-game winning streak.  Not only is it embarrassing for the City it sets up an owner either selling or moving the team --and don't talk to me about iron-clad leases, which are made to be broken.  The national media is going to start commenting on this and then you'll hear locals' routine '... they're picking on us' whine in full-throated harmony... Yeah it's nice that the team is making money off of TV revenues and team gear (sadly much of it is with that racist Chief Wahoo logo), but locals should embrace this team by putting butts in the seats.  I'm tired of the anti-Dolan excuse -- he's spending major $$ in a small market and Chris Antonetti has distinguished himself as one of the top GMs in the game... Hell, I've been to a game this season and I only live in Cleveland part-time.  You couldn't ask for a more accessible, more beautiful stadium in a vibrant downtown. 

No excuse.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4621 on: September 12, 2017, 10:04:23 AM »
How many of you complaining about attendance have been at/have tickets to a game against Baltimore or Detroit?

Indians aren't going anywhere. There are other teams with less attendance and much worse TV ratings. With TV advertising and revenue sharing, I would bet that TV ratings are at least as important as attendance.
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« Reply #4622 on: September 12, 2017, 10:05:21 AM »
Anyway, If the Indians win tonight we'll get to see how Clevenger will do under pressure which is certainly not a bad thing going into the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong but I have feeling the Tribe will tie the Moneyball A's.

How many of you complaining about attendance have been at/have tickets to a game against Baltimore or Detroit?

Indians aren't going anywhere. There are other teams with less attendance and much worse TV ratings. With TV advertising and revenue sharing, I would bet that TV ratings are at least as important as attendance.

This season no, last season I saw them play the Tigers at Progressive. I repeatedly was one of the 5K in attendance back in the 80s and early 90s when they played at Muni.
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4623 on: September 12, 2017, 10:17:12 AM »
Ugggh, stop caring about what everyone thinks. Geesh. Indians fans know how we love the team, the players, Tito and the front office have seen the remarkable uptick. They are happy here. I don't care what people in Provo, Utah think. Just enjoy the damn ride

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4624 on: September 12, 2017, 10:19:42 AM »
By the way, the attendance in last years playoffs affforded Dolan the ability to go out and buy Encarnacion.  That's 8 extra games of sellouts.  Imagine what 81 games of almost 10k more per game afford them.  I just don't get it. If you are questioning the fan base, you just don't understand what it means to be a "fan".  I've been to four games this year, and I'm no less of a fan than a guy with season tickets. That person just has more time than me

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4625 on: September 12, 2017, 10:20:27 AM »
I repeatedly was one of the 5K in attendance back in the 80s and early 90s when they played at Muni.

Me too.  And back then we dreamed of a day when we'd be this good and play in this kind of stadium.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4626 on: September 12, 2017, 10:21:29 AM »
This season no, last season I saw them play the Tigers at Progressive. I repeatedly was one of the 5K in attendance back in the 80s and early 90s when they played at Muni.

Just gave me a flashback to 8 year old me running up and down those blue wood bleachers, like a little maniac and no one there to tell me, chill out kid. haha

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« Reply #4627 on: September 12, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
Ugggh, stop caring about what everyone thinks. Geesh. Indians fans know how we love the team, the players, Tito and the front office have seen the remarkable uptick. They are happy here. I don't care what people in Provo, Utah think. Just enjoy the damn ride

Ugggh, stop telling people how to think. Not all of us can have just one cheerleader opinion on every Cleveland subject and it doesn't mean we're not enjoying the ride.

This season no, last season I saw them play the Tigers at Progressive. I repeatedly was one of the 5K in attendance back in the 80s and early 90s when they played at Muni.

Just gave me a flashback to 8 year old me running up and down those blue wood bleachers, like a little maniac and no one there to tell me, chill out kid. haha

Used to spell out "Go Browns" in the upper deck seats. Made the ushers nuts. I feel bad now. Those poor guys would have to run up and down those concrete steps chasing two people.  :-D
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4628 on: September 12, 2017, 10:25:26 AM »
Ugggh, stop caring about what everyone thinks. Geesh. Indians fans know how we love the team, the players, Tito and the front office have seen the remarkable uptick. They are happy here. I don't care what people in Provo, Utah think. Just enjoy the damn ride

Ugggh, stop telling people how to think. Not all of us can have just one cheerleader opinion on every Cleveland subject and it doesn't mean we're not enjoying the ride.

Mr. Believeland is right though....
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4629 on: September 12, 2017, 10:25:55 AM »
I'll be one of the XX,XXX in attendance tonight to hopefully see the Tribe tie the 2002 A's streak. 
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4630 on: September 12, 2017, 10:27:39 AM »
I'll be one of the XX,XXX in attendance tonight to hopefully see the Tribe tie the 2002 A's streak. 

I'll be there too!

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« Reply #4631 on: September 12, 2017, 10:29:16 AM »
I'm going too. I just bought 4 tickets to guilt trip three others into going haha
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4632 on: September 12, 2017, 10:30:19 AM »
Ugggh, stop caring about what everyone thinks. Geesh. Indians fans know how we love the team, the players, Tito and the front office have seen the remarkable uptick. They are happy here. I don't care what people in Provo, Utah think. Just enjoy the damn ride

Ugggh, stop telling people how to think. Not all of us can have just one cheerleader opinion on every Cleveland subject and it doesn't mean we're not enjoying the ride.

He's right though....

That we're not enjoying the ride. You're crazy. Especially where I live and who the Tribe swept over the weekend.
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4633 on: September 12, 2017, 10:37:09 AM »
I don't know what to tell ya.  Everything he said was accurate.  Quit complaining and continue to enjoy the ride.  How's that?

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« Reply #4634 on: September 12, 2017, 10:47:03 AM »
I don't know what to tell ya.  Everything he said was accurate.  Quit complaining and continue to enjoy the ride.  How's that?

Cleveland has the greatest fans in all of baseball. It rains unicorns all day long at the Prog. ;)

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4635 on: September 12, 2017, 10:49:37 AM »
^i don't care how or what you think. You can think whatever you want. I'm just trying to help. How many years r you guys gonna jump on the same forum and complain about the same thing that is 100% out of your control? If you like doing that, fine. I apologize for trying to help

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4636 on: September 12, 2017, 10:50:54 AM »
I don't know what to tell ya.  Everything he said was accurate.  Quit complaining and continue to enjoy the ride.  How's that?

Cleveland has the greatest fans in all of baseball. It rains unicorns all day long at the Prog. ;)

I agree.  2nd highest local TV ratings, and largest y-o-y attendance increase in all of baseball. 

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4637 on: September 12, 2017, 10:55:44 AM »
You guys win the Interwebz...let's move on.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4638 on: September 12, 2017, 11:00:09 AM »
Do the Indians really have the 2nd highest TV ratings?  If so that is amazing.  I assume that NY is # 1.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4639 on: September 12, 2017, 11:10:57 AM »

Indians' TV ratings are up 25%, still second-best in MLB

Tribe broadcasts on SportsTime Ohio are averaging a 7.81 rating, putting the Indians on pace to post their best TV numbers since 2001.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170906/blogs06/134511/indians-tv-ratings-are-25-still-second-best-mlb

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« Reply #4640 on: September 12, 2017, 11:43:32 AM »
We can start another thread about media and telecommunications if y'all would like... For now, let's talk about Cookie mowing down 9!
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4641 on: September 12, 2017, 11:55:48 AM »
The top 4 MLB pitchers in strikeouts since Aug. 1: Corey Kluber 74; Chris Sale 67; Carlos Carrasco 66; Trevor Bauer 60. #tribefest

 If the @Indians numbers were put up by a gamer, there would be muttering about cheat codes.  #streakthatcanvote #WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWIndians
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4642 on: September 12, 2017, 12:16:10 PM »
So where will Danny Salazar end up?  He obviously had the horrendous start last week (in Detroit? ... we win so much, I forget) where he only lasted 2/3s an inning and gave up 4 runs... Before his injury, he had pitched 6 lights-out games.  With Danny, it always seems to be his head more than his arm.  Will he make the post-season roster as a starter, reliever ... or at all?

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4643 on: September 12, 2017, 12:57:55 PM »
How many of you complaining about attendance have been at/have tickets to a game against Baltimore or Detroit?

I'm going Sunday.  It's the soonest I could get up there with work/life the last couple weeks.
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« Reply #4644 on: September 12, 2017, 01:30:10 PM »
^I'm with you for the most part... But our average attendance DROPPED last night... In the midst of the most dominant 20-game stretch since Murderer's Row.

Yeah, but how many people watched Murderer's Row on TV?

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4645 on: September 12, 2017, 09:47:41 PM »
Undeniably the Cy Young frontrunner!!!

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« Reply #4646 on: September 12, 2017, 09:50:35 PM »
ESPN love...

Real or not? It's time to appreciate the greatness of Indians' win streak

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In our fast-paced world with iPhones to check and Instagrams to update and photos to message, our ability to sit back and soak in the everyday aspect of baseball has, to a certain degree, been lost. We tend to focus on the final result: Who wins the World Series.

I understand that. It is, after all, the goal of every team and every player. But what the Indians are doing is more impressive than winning a World Series.

I guess my plea is this: Let's admire greatness in the regular season the same way we admire greatness in the postseason. I know, I know: Nobody remembers the 2001 Mariners, the 2016 Warriors aren't the best team ever and the 2007 Patriots lost the game that mattered most. I can live with it. I just don't want to hear that this streak doesn't matter unless the Indians win the World Series. That's a sad way to view the world. It matters and it's awesome.

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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4647 on: September 13, 2017, 01:45:14 AM »
What an amazing way to get the 20th, a complete game shutout from Kluber. After tonight, he definitely has proven why he deserves the Cy Young. Also the last out was against Cabrera which almost seemed poetic as it signifies the future of the relationship between our two clubs. The days of Tigers dominance over the Tribe have come to an end.

The drive from Columbus to witness this historic game was truly worth it. Although I won't be able to see the Tribe possibly break the AL streak record Wednesday, I have a lot of confidence in their ability to keep this thing going. They are truly dominant over these past few weeks in a way the 2002 A's never were.
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4648 on: September 13, 2017, 10:12:55 AM »
^MLB Network will, again, be broadcasting today's game at Noon to possibly tie the Cubs record of 21-straight.  Wahoo! ... oops.

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« Reply #4649 on: September 13, 2017, 10:14:10 AM »
17 games remaining.  11 wins to reach 100.

Looking at the poll for this thread, 20 of 26 predicted a 90-99 win season, but only 3 of 26 predicted 100+.  Developing ...

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« Reply #4650 on: September 13, 2017, 10:45:44 AM »
^MLB Network will, again, be broadcasting today's game at Noon to possibly tie the Cubs record of 21-straight.  Wahoo! ... oops.

Watching the game last night on MLB I noticed the series opener with KC is the second regional option for tomorrow night. I would think it will likely be first if they win today. I loved MLB bumping out the Red Sox last night, I'm sure their legions of casual fans were confused as to why!   :-D :-D
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Re: Cleveland Indians Discussion
« Reply #4652 on: September 13, 2017, 01:24:08 PM »
Dang... what happened (is happening) in the bottom of the third?

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« Reply #4653 on: September 13, 2017, 01:50:56 PM »
Rain delay (sort of) in the 5th. Sprinklers just came on  :-D
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« Reply #4654 on: September 13, 2017, 02:20:22 PM »
Dang... what happened (is happening) in the bottom of the third?

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Frustrations are boiling over for the Tigers, Feeling that Buck Farmer has been getting squeezed, catcher James McCann and then manager Brad Ausmus were ejected by home-plate ump Quinn Wolcott. Backup catcher John Hicks then "missed" a pitch that hit Wolcott in the shoulder. Yandy Diaz then just missed the knockout punch, lining out to left field with the bases loaded and two outs.

This?

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