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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2005, 07:11:25 PM »
Here is a link to all the projects that the Downtown Cleveland Partnership has identified.  It still is missing some smaller things:

http://www.downtownclevelandpartnership.com/development.html

Let's try pasting the list:

PROJECT
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 LOCATION
 DESCRIPTION
 INVESTMENT
(est in $ Millions)
 STATUS of Completion
 
Residential
 
1900 Euclid Ave Lofts
 Somerville
 1900 Euclid Ave,
 80 apartments
 $7.0
 Sep-03
 
668 Euclid Avenue
 Goldberg/Ohio Savings
 668 Euclid Ave.
 224 apts./parking
 TBD
 Pre-Developed
 
Bingham Building
 Burnside Construction Co.
 1278 W. 9th St.
 140 apts./parking/21,000 sf grocery store
 $80.0
 Oct-04
 
District Park Condominiums
 Marous Development
 1250-1260 W. 9th St.
 350 condos/retail/parking garage
 $100.0
 On hold
 
Dollar Bank Building
 Marous Development
 614 Euclid Ave.
 6-8 condominium live/work units/
Dollar Bank on First Floor
 $8.5
 Pre-Developed
 
Erie Building
 Perkowski
 1260 W. 4th St.
 19 condos/$175,000-$425,000
 $4.5
 Oct-03
 
The Avenue District
 Zaremba
 E. 12th St. & St. Clair
 423 condo & townhouse units, retail, parking
 $150.0
 Pre-Developed
 
Irishtown Bend
 Cleveland Civic Housing Fund LLC
 1925 Columbus Rd.
 6 condos
 $6.5
 Nov-03
 
Fredrick @ Fourth
 MRN Ltd.
 2063 E. 4th Street
 35 apartments
 $3.5
 Nov-03
 
Joshua E. Hall Building
 Korfant & Mazzone/Harstone Electric
 1148 Prospect
 4 condos
 $4.0
 Under Construction
 
Pinnacle
 Georgalis
 701 W. Lakeside Ave.
 11-story/70 condominiums/$370,000+
 $30.0
 Under Construction
 
Rockwell Condominiums
 King James Group
 E. 6th St. & Rockwell
 49 luxury condo units/10,000 sq. ft. retail space
 TBD
 On Hold
 
Sincere Building
 Zarnas, Georgalis
 2077 E. 4th Street
 10 condos/4 rentals
 $4.2
 Nov-03
 
Condominiums at Stonebridge
 K & D Group
 2222 Detroit Avenue
 76 condos/159 rentals
 $21.0
 Jan-05
 
Walker & Weeks
 Renaissance International Enterprises
 2341 Carnegie
 36 apartments
 $4.0
 Under Construction
 
WT Grant
 Somerville
 222 Euclid Avenue
 73 loft apartments and retail
 $14.0
 Oct-03
 
     
Multi-Use
 
515 Euclid Avenue
 Goldberg
 515 Euclid Avenue
 11,000 sf retail, multi-level parking (522 spaces), capacity for tower
 $20.0
 Under Construction
 
Idea Center at Playhouse Square
 Playhouse Square Foundation/
ideastream
 1375 Euclid Ave.
 ideastream studios/Arts Education Center/theater/offices
 $25.0
 opens 9/10/05
 
Cleveland State University
 CSU
 Chester Ave
 Recreation center, renovation of Howe Mansion, Conversion of Fenn Tower to Dorms, Krenzler Field domed
 $42.0
 Under Construction
 
     
Retail/Dining/Entertainment
 
House of Blues
(Woolworth Bldg)
 House of Blues/MRN
 308 Euclid Avenue
 55,000 sf; concert venue, restaurant, private club & retail store
 $5.0
 Jun-04
 
Renaissance Hotel Renovation
 Renaissance Hotel
 Public Square
 491-guestroom and suite renovation
 $5.5
 May-03
 
Cleveland Athletic Club Renovation
 CAC
 E. 12th St. & Euclid
 Exterior renovation, upgrade all facilities
 $3.5
 Jul-04
 
Union Club Renovation
 Union Club
 1211 Euclid Avenue
 Interior renovation; new fitness center, dining room, conference facilities
 $6.5
 Jun-04
 
     
Office
 
Playhouse Square Corporate Center
 American National Group
 1317 Euclid Ave.
 Conversion to office with new 3rd floor, atrium
 $4.5
 Pre-Development
 
Ameritrust Building Complex
 Jacobs
 E. 9th St. & Euclid
 Selected site for consolidated County offices for 2000 employees
 TBD
 Pre-Development
 
Playhouse Square Plaza
 American National Group
 1220 Huron
 11-story, 101,000 sf office space
 $8.0
 Dec-05
 
Galleria/Tower at Erieview Renovations
 Minshall Stewart
 1301 E. 9th St.
 New signage, new color scheme
 $17.0
 Jul-03
 
Metzenbaum Courthouse
 GSA
 E. 3rd & Superior
 Historic & green restoration for courts and offices
 $44.6
 Under Construction
 
     
Infrastructure
 
Euclid Corridor Transportation Project
 RTA
 Public Square to University Circle
 Creation of Bus Rapid Transit & related improvements
 $168.0
 Under Construction
 
Strawbridge Plaza
 Mall Plaza Beautification Fund/City of Cleveland/
Parkworks
 Mall C
 New park on the site formerly known as Mall C
 $1.2
 Oct-03
 
Perk Plaza

(Chester Commons)
 City of Cleveland/
Parkworks
 E. 12th St. & Chester
 Revitalized park formerly known as Chester Commons
 TBD
 On Hold
 
The Medical Mutual Plaza at Huron Point
 NOACA/Cleveland Foundation/Medical Mutual/City of Cleveland/
Parkworks
 Huron/E. 9th St./Prospect
 New public green space in Gateway District
 $1.0
 July–05
 
Superior Ave. Streetscape
 City of Cleveland
 Superior Ave., E. 18th to E. 22nd
 Streetscape improvements, public art, landscaping
 $3.0
 Dec-04
 
E. 4th Streetscape
 City of Cleveland
 E. 4th St.
 Streetscape replacement/enhancements
 $1.5
 Oct-04
 
     
ESTIMATED TOTAL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT AS OF:
 June-05
 $786.5
 

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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2005, 10:23:08 AM »
Now just add in university circle and the clinic and we are probably around $2 Billion
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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2005, 02:38:01 PM »
Remember the dark days of early May?  NASA Glenn losing jobs, DFAS leaving, District Park canceled, Pinnacle bungling, Indians losing.  It's been a remarkable 3 months....except for the Indians.

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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2005, 03:23:12 PM »
Remember the dark days of early May?  NASA Glenn losing jobs, DFAS leaving, District Park canceled, Pinnacle bungling, Indians losing.  It's been a remarkable 3 months....except for the Indians.

District Park is "on hold" not cancelled. 
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2005, 09:10:39 AM »
The paper had a small blip about the Gospel Press building in Tremont.  The Planning Commission has recommended that the lot be rezoned.  Construction could start by the end of the year and open in spring 2007.  It will include 102 apartments.

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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2005, 11:12:59 AM »
any word about retail tenants?  a specialty grocer?  I was all for a new full-service grocery store in the neighborhood, but that probably isn't a smart idea with the Walmart going in down the street...  specialty/gourmet should work, though, in this totally underserved pocket of the city!

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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2005, 11:51:23 AM »
No word on any retail.  Tremont is so decentralized.  Besides the park, there is no sort of central gathering point for the area.  If there was, that would be a good place for grocer. 


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« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2005, 11:43:29 PM »
The list is updated
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« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2005, 08:53:30 PM »
I went ahead an "stickied" this so you wouldn't have to hunt to find it. 

I'm planning on doing a Cincy one and I'll sticky that as well.
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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2005, 09:00:23 PM »
Thanks
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2005, 09:39:28 PM »
KJP, any further word on this "mystery project" of yours yet? 

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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2005, 10:49:31 PM »
Not yet. The developer still has property to acquire, and has been very cautious, using different companies to make different property acquisitions, so as to disguise his intentions and keep sale prices to a minimum. The hope is for a breakthrough by as early as the middle of this month. If so, I will spill the beans at that time. I don't want to say anything right now or my article might kill the project. When I sent out the teaser on this forum, I didn't know that there were still properties to be acquired. I now regret sending out that teaser because, as we all know, anything can happen during a negotiation.

By the way, I updated the list again, adding three projects in the "on hold/maybe" category. Call me optimistic! I'll bet that at least one of them happens. None are my "mystery project" however.
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2005, 01:44:15 PM »
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I know you can't say anything, but I remember reading back in March/April that Bob Stark of Crocker Park wanted to do a development downtown. So that is my guess.

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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2005, 01:49:31 PM »
Gotcha KJP, and I won't make any guesses in public since there is still acquisition going on.

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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2005, 06:29:49 PM »
Anyone who hasn't checked out this week's West Side Sun News should do so.  Our very own KJP has a couple nice features articles!  Both relate to Downtown Development, so mentioning them here is quite appropriate.  I know at least one is available online at http://www.cleveland.com/sun/westsidesunnews/

Keep up the good work, KJP!

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« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2005, 09:27:03 PM »
Thanks. But that article probably belongs in "Grander Vision for the Inner Belt" rather than here. If you want to post it there, that's cool with me. But I won't post my own articles on this forum. It's a little too much "Terrell Owens" syndrome for me!
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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2005, 09:11:42 AM »
I saw the online article.  Living in Cleveland Hts, I haven't been able to access the West Side Sun News print edition.  What does the other article discuss?

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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2005, 09:19:07 AM »
The other article I was referring to was a basic recap of the great success of the Warehouse District CDC, as well as developers and architects, who have helped reshape the Warehouse District.  It's a very positive article about things past, present and future...

I don't believe there's a digital edition, but I'd be happy to type up a couple of the highlights.  KJP?

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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2005, 09:32:45 AM »
That's fine.

By the way, the Brooklyn Sun Journal was able to also fit a color satellite view of the Inner Belt bridge plus some lines and data I added to indicate the routing for the new bridge on the southern alignment. I'll post that view when I get home later tonight.
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2005, 09:52:48 AM »
It's a little too much "Terrell Owens" syndrome for me!

Or are you just mad that we didn't have fireworks to celebrate your 1500th post?

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« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2005, 12:57:07 PM »
This was included in a recent mailing from The Avenue. Probably won't be too substantial, but you never know!

WJW- Fox 8 Special
Check out Zaremba President, Nathan Zaremba on WJW- Fox 8 Cleveland on November 12th at 1:00.  Fox 8 Cleveland will be featuring a television special on the developmental changes taking place in Downtown Cleveland.  Mr. Zaremba will be speaking on The Avenue District project. Don't miss this chance to hear Mr. Zaremba share his thoughts and vision for the new residential development project.

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« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2005, 03:44:48 PM »
What exact avenue is the Avenue named after.

This kinda confuses me, because the mall at Tower City is named the Avenue.  But since noone shops there, I may be the only one confused.
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« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2005, 04:38:08 PM »
I remember the jingle for Tower City advertising "Meet me on the Ave-nuuuue" back in the early 1990s, but I don't think anyone ever really called it that. It was always just "Tower City."
BTW, I think people exaggerate Tower City's plight. It's not the wasteland you'd think it was hearing Clevelanders talk. It's just transformed from being a place meant to lure suburbanites to being something more functional: an urban shopping center catering to mostly city residents. So instead of Hugo Boss you have Payless.
Also, remember that Tower City is essentially a regional mall -- and regional malls are dying all across the country, not just in downtown Cleveland.
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« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2005, 05:59:30 PM »
^good point
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« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2005, 06:15:50 PM »
The only thing that really gets me down about Tower City's current state of affairs is the early closing time.  It would be nice if the mall was open late enough that I could actually use it after work.  Instead it closes at six.  And don't forget the Dollar Store.  Downscale urban retail is one thing, but a dollar store is just sad.

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« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2005, 07:45:18 PM »
Or are you just mad that we didn't have fireworks to celebrate your 1500th post? :-D

Nah. Besides, I considered 1,000 was worth celebrating more. Or was it when I reached Key Tower status?
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« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2005, 08:11:44 AM »
What exact avenue is the Avenue named after.

This kinda confuses me, because the mall at Tower City is named the Avenue.  But since noone shops there, I may be the only one confused.

One is "the Avenue  at Tower City".  Most people just call it "TowerCity" although some folks still refer to it as Union Terminal or terminal tower.  The housing developement is "The Avenue District".  And Tower City is not dead. 

It went from a High End mall to a functioning mall for the what is in the area.  As more people populate the area the need and want for higher end stores will come - well actually the demand is there now.  TowerCity changed but I know things for it and Euclid avenue will improve.  There are too many housing projects in the works and people want to be able to walk to get what they need.  Not drive anywhere.  but don't ge me started......

I'm sure (rather guess) once the residencies of the Avenue District are built, each building will have it's own unique name.
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« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2005, 09:00:57 AM »
Instead it closes at six.  And don't forget the Dollar Store.  Downscale urban retail is one thing, but a dollar store is just sad.

Yes, both good points. It does close too early and the Dollar Store is taking things a little too far. However, I agree with TwoSense... things will look up for Tower City as downtown becomes more populated -- ESPECIALLY if we can ever manage to build on those parking lots across from Public Square. Buildings there would make the walk from the Warehouse District to Lower Euclid much less depressing.
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« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2005, 09:06:19 AM »
MTS and B12 are right on the money...Tower City has shifted to suit its demographics and there's nothing wrong with that.  Personally, I'd prefer to see Banana Republic and Hugo Boss and all sorts of high-end stuff down there, but realistically, I'd probably never shop there unless they had killer sales racks!  One thing that appears to be missing is an Old Navy... If you look at NYC and Brooklyn in particular, the "urban" malls that cater to a more Downtown Cleveland type of population all feature Old Navy.  Again, I probably wouldn't shop there, but I'd bet it would do quite well in Tower City. 

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« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2005, 09:08:05 AM »
They're going for a Park Avenue feel at the Avenue District, they want it to be the area for upscale folks who want to live downtown, but don't want to be right on top of the noisy entertainment districts.  I think the "Avenue" moniker is meant to inspire thoughts of a Park Avenue lifestyle.   

Still, it is a little confusing, even though everyone refers to it simply as "Tower City," it still refers to itself as the Avenue at Tower City.  I think they should have named the Avenue District something else.  We should create our own Park Avenue with a uniquely Cleveland name and feel.  But I think it will be successful with the crowd it's marketing itself to, due to its proximity to Playhouse Square, clubby places like the Union Club and the CAC, and the East 9th business corridor.  I hope they are able to link East 12th to Playhouse Square in a way that makes it feel like part of the same neighborhood.  That, and completing Perk Park for the rich ladies to walk their poodles should be priorities.

   

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« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2005, 09:10:05 AM »
PS: on the name "Avenue District"... the way it was described is that it fits in between several of Cleveland's premiere avenues: St. Clair, Rockwell, Superior, Payne, Chester.  So, it's a reference to that.

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« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2005, 09:11:33 AM »
I agree with everyone about Tower City, that its future prospects are linked to the downtown population's growth and demographics.  However, what impact do you think that placing the Convention Center on the TC site would have on TC?  Would we see an instant improvement in the retail offerings?

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« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2005, 09:12:06 AM »
They're going for a Park Avenue feel at the Avenue District, they want it to be the area for upscale folks who want to live downtown, but don't want to be right on top of the noisy entertainment districts.  I think the "Avenue" moniker is meant to inspire thoughts of a Park Avenue lifestyle.

I think you're exactly right, Ewoops. Especially considering the latest e-mail update from The Avenue (sent yesterday) referred to the project as "our quiet urban neighborhood." Not exactly what I would look for in city living, but I can see the need for such a place, especially if we want to get older folks living in the city.

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« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2005, 09:15:30 AM »
I don't disagree about why they called it the Avenue District, it's a matter of the "feel" they were trying to create by naming it after those avenues.  It doesn't really work for me, because they're naming it after east-west avenues when the neighborhood already has a distinctively north-south stroll appeal, due to the lineage of Reserve Square, Chesterfield, and Statler Arms, not to mention the Lake at one end and Playhouse Square at the others.

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« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2005, 09:19:23 AM »
I've said before and I'll say it again - I don't think we'll ever see Tower City's retail mix return to the days of Gucci, Fendi, Barneys, etc. I really think that a healthy mix of moderate stores (Gap, Old Navy, etc.) and "better" outlet stores. Outlet malls offer approachable price points for lower-income residents but they also draw people with disposable income who like bargains. As it stands the only outlet malls are in far-flung areas like Aurora and Lodi - I think Tower City would benefit from that approach. I've never been to a Mills mall but from what I understand, they have a good handle on how to get the right mix of retailers to make such a project work.

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