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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2009, 11:21:10 PM »
I'm very excited for this project, I feel like quality streetscraping can really enhance the feel of an area and for all the diabolic haters that say nothing ever gets done (timely) in Cleveland, I say it sure looks like this project got off the ground quickly.

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« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2009, 07:41:00 AM »
I walked by last night, and frankly, I'm amazed. It looks like it's almost completely laid now. Amazingly fast! What is also exciting for me is that they're working around the existing lamps and trees. I was so disappointed to see the large-growth trees go on E. 12th, so to see so much care being taken to preserve the existing landscape elements warms my little urban geek heart.

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2009, 11:42:02 AM »
Does anyone know if they're going to replace the span between what they've already done and the buildings, or would that be too much of a hindrance for the businesses there?

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2009, 06:05:40 PM »
I was there today, and aside from one small stretch between Nauti Mermaid and Starbucks, it was pretty much done. Nothing fancy but that extra square footage makes a big difference!

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« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2009, 07:32:52 PM »
This really is an inspiring little project.  And for only $60K? makes me want to pass a hat around to fund another block somewhere else downtown.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2009, 09:19:59 PM »
Now they just need to fill in the parking lot on the east side of the street with compatible buildings

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« Reply #76 on: July 17, 2009, 12:30:28 AM »
Now they just need to fill in the parking lot on the east side of the street with compatible buildings

You said it! Everytime I walk past that, I just grin and shake my head wishing something of quality could fill this in soon. Man, even if it was a huge park would be better than a parking lot.
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« Reply #77 on: July 17, 2009, 06:00:19 AM »
Great idea...All for it, but please, let's make it a going green effort and yet another small example of sustainability...get some interesting native plants in this thing...Not Home Depot stock. The natives could be a theme unto itself. ("Cleveland's Flowers") See www.prairienursery.com and look at what we could have that would provide an energy saving year 'round color scheme.

You could also contact McKinight Associates with your ideas and questions, they are the landscape architect.
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^Pretty sure they were concrete curbs before this update.  I can't imagine they would remove granite and replace with concrete...

They are granite curbs, they are being reused I'm sure, just moved out.  You can see it on the pic on cleveland.com

Unfortunately, if there was granite there before (and I can't recall if there was), it appears to have been "value engineered" out of the final product, as what's there currently is slipformed concrete :-(. This makes me a sad 'DoG, but I'll deal...the overall result is a welcome improvement, and let me add my voice to those who were presently surprised at the speed with which this took place. As mentioned above, save for a small mid-block section, the new sidewalk has been reopened.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2009, 05:27:57 PM »
Great idea...All for it, but please, let's make it a going green effort and yet another small example of sustainability...get some interesting native plants in this thing...Not Home Depot stock. The natives could be a theme unto itself. ("Cleveland's Flowers") See www.prairienursery.com and look at what we could have that would provide an energy saving year 'round color scheme.

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^Pretty sure they were concrete curbs before this update.  I can't imagine they would remove granite and replace with concrete...

They are granite curbs, they are being reused I'm sure, just moved out.  You can see it on the pic on cleveland.com

Unfortunately, if there was granite there before (and I can't recall if there was), it appears to have been "value engineered" out of the final product, as what's there currently is slipformed concrete :-(. This makes me a sad 'DoG, but I'll deal...the overall result is a welcome improvement, and let me add my voice to those who were presently surprised at the speed with which this took place. As mentioned above, save for a small mid-block section, the new sidewalk has been reopened.

I have not paid that close attention to the curbs, but if they did replace granite with concrete....  And if the granite was still in decent shape. Mistake. I always thought that streets and walks should be just as much a work of art as the buildings and not an afterthought.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2009, 11:10:27 AM »
So ... anyone been down and seen it in the past week? Is it all finished? Assessments?

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2009, 12:12:40 PM »
I saw it Sunday during the Warehouse District street fest.  It looks good!  Sad to see they got rid of the granite curbs...  But Johnny's was already using the additional space to add more outdoor seating. 

It creates a better experience while walking down that side of the street.  They've also repainted the lines in the street to add a turning lane.

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #81 on: August 04, 2009, 01:30:47 PM »
judging by this picture that was on cleveland.com I thought they were just reusing pre-existing granite curbs.  I guess not.  Maybe they are just pre cast concrete.  There is no way they wouldn't have recycled granite curbs, they do it all the time when possible (see east 12th street).  The WHD in general is a pretty mixed bag when it comes to granite curbs... some areas have it, some don't. This whole block doesn't seem to have them.  Shame, but I'm guessing new granite curbs would have significantly increased the price...
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #82 on: August 04, 2009, 04:43:28 PM »
I wonder what's going to happen to the granite curbs? Anyone know where they went?

I hope they don't end up as part of a politician's pool patio.  :-P
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2009, 05:35:35 PM »
Looks like there done... Also nice to see that they doing upkeep.
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« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2009, 05:46:06 PM »
That ain't half bad, now if the city of cleveland could use more than one species of tree for every new planting (you know the one).
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2009, 08:34:19 AM »
The streetscaping looks great!  I love the hanging baskets :)

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2009, 10:57:35 PM »
It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2009, 11:36:33 AM »
Just another shot - I didn't get a photo, but it looked like there were people at Johnnys Downtown reworking their patio:


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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2009, 11:41:52 AM »
It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think

Just to clarify, they didn't move anything back off the curb.  They simply pushed the curb out.  Probably more of a cost saving measure than anything else.

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2009, 12:54:59 PM »
It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think

Just to clarify, they didn't move anything back off the curb.  They simply pushed the curb out.  Probably more of a cost saving measure than anything else.

It looks nice.  I like that.  In winter when there are no patios the positioning of the lights will still provide enough lightening on the sidewalks.
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« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2009, 01:45:33 PM »
That's pretty sharp looking. Me likes.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2009, 07:09:53 PM »
It seems like the latest effort in the Warehouse streetscape is a big letdown.

I'm talking about the northside of West 6th, north of W. St. Clair. They've removed the decorative brick and replaced it with plain ol' concrete...

New look is a big MINUS.
Before was a PLUS.

Why would they do this?
Maybe something better's coming next Spring (i.e. planters,etc.), and this is just the prelude?

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2009, 07:41:40 PM »
It seems like the latest effort in the Warehouse streetscape is a big letdown.

I'm talking about the northside of West 6th, north of W. St. Clair. They've removed the decorative brick and replaced it with plain ol' concrete...

New look is a big MINUS.
Before was a PLUS.

Why would they do this?
Maybe something better's coming next Spring (i.e. planters,etc.), and this is just the prelude?

Let's hope

what is so different, compared to the picture MayDay posted?  Do you have a visual to show us??
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« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2009, 07:53:34 PM »
No picture...the sun had already gone down when I saw it...

The pictures from MayDay are of the other side of West 6th.


I'm talking about the part of West 6th with XO Steakhouse (where the patio is) , Barley House, Liquid , Sushi Rock, Blind Pig etc. etc.

Both sides of the street they tore out the brick. In one day it was done! One day!
It doesn't look right...
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« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2009, 09:19:57 PM »
^Hopefully a prelude to something more, but I haven't heard anything about this other than the constant jackhammering late into the evening last night.

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« Reply #95 on: September 17, 2009, 03:28:21 PM »
There were many bricks missing creating pretty big holes.  Many people were tripping over these 'potholes'. Hopefully something will become of this.

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« Reply #96 on: September 17, 2009, 03:36:07 PM »
I know they have a big tailgat party on W6 this weekend for the OSU Toledo game.  Maybe it is in preperation for something for that.

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« Reply #97 on: September 29, 2009, 10:35:12 PM »
any update on the street furniture that was supposed to be part of this project?   

perhaps they can borrow some from e12, where there are literally 100 chairs bolted to the sidewalk.
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« Reply #98 on: October 23, 2009, 09:04:37 AM »
I was walking the dog down West 6th Street last night when I noticed the lights on at 1281 West 6th Street - a building that's been vacant for a while.    It's connected to 1277 West 6th Street, which is also vacant. 

Anyway, there was a building permit on the door that seemed to be authorizing the construction of a new wall between 1281 and 1277.  Because that could be (was?) one space.  The load wall in the center is not a load bearing one.

I took the pictures below with my cell phone camera so they're not of McCleveland quality.  :)

Anyone know the history/status of this space?  There's way too many vacant spaces on West 6th Street.  Those two, the retail floor of The Hat Factory building and that small spot between Blue Point Grill and Sin nightclub.  And don't get me started on Johnson Court...

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« Reply #99 on: October 23, 2009, 10:30:02 AM »
I don't know... But I agree about the vacancies. When you theme any given area with too much of the bar/fancy bar theme, or any ONE theme, it eventually gets old, and people start to lose interest. There needs to be a mix. Perhaps more functional businesses that serve the needs of people who actually live downtown--anything that would eliminate the need to get in the car and drive somewhere would be a good rule of thumb.
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« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2009, 06:16:38 AM »
Is that a six pack in the first pic?
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2009, 11:23:55 AM »

This is good news if it's the building I'm thinking about.
That has been vacant FOR YEARS.

That's a great WD building...again, if it's the one I think it is.

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« Reply #102 on: October 24, 2009, 11:53:48 AM »
Is that a six pack in the first pic?

Imagine that... construction workers drinking beer on the job. You know the rules of the house -- always hide the beer before the construction contractors come over.
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« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2009, 11:56:04 AM »
Is that a six pack in the first pic?

Imagine that... construction workers drinking beer on the job. You know the rules of the house -- always hide the beer before the construction contractors come over.

thank goodness I don't drink beer
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« Reply #104 on: October 24, 2009, 12:05:13 PM »
Maybe one day.... I may open up a custom aquarium design, installation and maintenance shoppe in one of these places. It will be a great show room.
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