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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #175 on: July 29, 2010, 07:38:34 PM »
^What slot machines are based on skill? lol

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« Reply #176 on: July 29, 2010, 07:53:46 PM »
^ I'm not sure either. They're probably similar to the type of video gaming terminals that you would find when you sit at a bar. This establishment, though, is choosing to call them slot machines.

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #177 on: July 29, 2010, 09:18:26 PM »
The PD ran an article or two about these internet sweepstakes parlors popping up- I wonder if it's one of those.  http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/07/internet_sweepstakes_cafes_ski.html
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« Reply #178 on: July 30, 2010, 12:08:09 PM »

  Hopefully they put in some outdoor heater things so that space can be enjoyed deep into the fall
That's going to be tricky. Most types of temporary outdoor heaters are illegal in the city of Cleveland. Several places have been busted lately and had to take out the overhead propane powered heaters.
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« Reply #179 on: July 30, 2010, 12:50:08 PM »

  Hopefully they put in some outdoor heater things so that space can be enjoyed deep into the fall
That's going to be tricky. Most types of temporary outdoor heaters are illegal in the city of Cleveland. Several places have been busted lately and had to take out the overhead propane powered heaters.

Why are they illegal?  We trying to punish our smokers?  I see these things all over the place in other cities.

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« Reply #180 on: July 30, 2010, 01:08:13 PM »
^ They're legal in Cleveland Heights, either that or the law is not enforced because they are widespread.

And for something to be legal in Cleveland Heights but not Cleveland is a real shocker.

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« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2010, 10:52:18 PM »
I can't believe those are illegal in Cleveland, that is just plain stupid.  Every city has them.
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« Reply #182 on: July 30, 2010, 11:06:54 PM »
Why are they illegal?  We trying to punish our smokers?  I see these things all over the place in other cities.


Wait a minute...Anyone who smokes, (including myself at one time) punishes themselves...as well as others who have to accommodate the self indulgence against one's will. I don't walk up and fart in your face and expect you to like it/take it, so why should I have to smell your smoke, is my philosophy. Question is whether said smoker has the courage and honesty to admit that he/she is punishing themselves---or whether they remain in denial and side with the tobacco companies as through they (tobacco) are their benefactor and not a  pawn of the tobacco companies which they (smokers) really are. Love the smoker arguments that simply have "no wind" to breathe on. Now back to the topic...
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2010, 06:45:40 AM »

  Hopefully they put in some outdoor heater things so that space can be enjoyed deep into the fall
That's going to be tricky. Most types of temporary outdoor heaters are illegal in the city of Cleveland. Several places have been busted lately and had to take out the overhead propane powered heaters.

Are you serious?  That seems anti-pro business, especially in places like downtown, Shaker Square, UC, Tremont and Ohio City where outdoor dining is expected.  Outdoor dining is a great urban experience.  There has to be more to the story/situation.
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« Reply #184 on: July 31, 2010, 10:42:23 AM »
As the logic was explained... windy day, very hot heating coil or gas flame overhead, long hair. Combine all 3 and see whatcha get. I also agree the law is stupid. But it probably explains why bus shelters don't have heaters either. :(
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #185 on: July 31, 2010, 03:38:55 PM »
you can use an outdoor heater, but in Cleveland, it has to be electric. 

dvine on st clair has electric heaters installed on their patio.  you can also get electric heaters that are the same look of the propane ones.
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« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2010, 10:57:07 PM »
Are you serious?  That seems anti-pro business,

Anti-pro business? Wouldn't "anti-business" suffice, or are you trying to have "anti" and "pro" cancel each other out by using them both in the same sentence?  :-P
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #187 on: August 16, 2010, 05:24:05 PM »
The space on West 9th is currently the Lakeland Employment office, so I guess a restaurant/nightclub/lounge will be a step up.

I saw the owner of this new club moving things into the four story building next door last weekend.  But, I thought the club was going to be in the two story space?  Or he got both?  Not sure what is happening to which building here...

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« Reply #188 on: October 12, 2010, 06:51:04 PM »

The old Griffon Gallery space on W. 9th has a "Lease agreed" sign on the window and lights are on in there tonight. No hint as to what's moving in.

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« Reply #189 on: October 13, 2010, 12:15:55 PM »
I hadn't heard that Griffon Gallery closed! Any information on where they are going or whats happening with their collection?
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« Reply #190 on: October 13, 2010, 08:03:29 PM »

Griffon's been closed for several months. No idea about any relocation.
Back in the day they did framing, etc. for me.
Disappointed to see little places like that leave the District.
I don't know if same kind of retail is replaceing it or eatery/drinkery.
 
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #191 on: October 13, 2010, 08:51:24 PM »
it looks like the WHD master plan for streetscape and other improvements has made it through NOACA's prioritization process for fund allocation.  It is on the agenda as a proposed award for Friday morning, with spending that must occur starting in 2012, but it could be sooner.

http://www.noaca.org/tacoctober2010.pdf  (last page)

Does anyone have a link to the WHD master plan?  I didn't see anything on google.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #192 on: November 18, 2010, 08:29:21 PM »
Folks, this thread is for discussion of PROJECTS AND CONSTRUCTION within the Warehouse District.


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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #193 on: December 16, 2010, 03:03:10 PM »
Federal funds to help 17 Northeast Ohio street and trail projects

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Streetscape projects and walking and bicycle trails in the area will get a $9 million boost from the federal government over the next three years.
Regional planners picked 17 projects across Northeast Ohio on Friday to split the money over that time, ranging from street beautification in Cleveland's Warehouse District and Tremont neighborhood, to trails connecting parks or linking existing paths in Geauga and Lake counties.

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Cleveland: Extend Warehouse District streetscape improvements already on West Sixth Street north of Superior Avenue, across to Lakeside Avenue and to Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority property. Federal contribution: $600,000.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/12/streetscape_and_trail_projects.html

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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #194 on: December 16, 2010, 03:11:53 PM »
Imagine a world where we paid to the City the taxes we pay to Washington, and we paid to Washington the taxes we currently pay to the city.  We would not need to beg for money from Washington to do great things in our city!

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« Reply #195 on: December 16, 2010, 03:31:01 PM »
Imagine a world where we paid to the City the taxes we pay to Washington, and we paid to Washington the taxes we currently pay to the city.  We would not need to beg for money from Washington to do great things in our city!

Hmmm let's see.... We could build our own military and invade Pittsburgh.  :wink: :shoot:

Seriously though it's nice to see continued improvements in the WHD. Seems like quite a few nice little projects will receive some fed money.

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« Reply #196 on: December 16, 2010, 04:34:27 PM »
Does anyone have the plans for what this $600,000 will actually do?  I understand that it is limited to west 6th. 

The improvements on west 6th south of st. clair were only $60,000, and the northern stretch already has some great street trees.  It was my original impression that the grant was going to district wide improvements, including Johnson Court and West 9th.

$600,000 seems like a lot for a short stretch of pavement.  Does anyone have more details or a link to the proposed changes?
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« Reply #197 on: December 17, 2010, 07:31:15 AM »
^The original $60,000 didn't move any infrastructure.  Maybe the $600,000 will be used to completely remake and expand the pedestrian walks on W6th from Superior to Lakeside including bumping out all the lights, trees, etc.  Just a guess...

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« Reply #198 on: December 17, 2010, 07:59:47 PM »
And maybe they will actually use granite curbs!
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« Reply #199 on: December 28, 2010, 12:09:30 PM »
No update here (sorry!) but just a general question...   Since there seemed to be a lot of projects on the drawing boards circa 2005 & 2006, that were subsequently wiped out or postponed by the G.R. I wondered if anyone had thoughts on the possibility for a stark-like development in the WD in the upcoming years.

I was recently (last month) looking at apartments in the WD to move there, and asked about occupancy.  The Bingham and Bridgeview both said 85% and 90% respectively.  I don't know about the others, but it would seem, to me, that those numbers indicate enough mass to warrant new projects.  And more residents will clearly need/mean more retail.

...and how does (if at all) FEB play into this?
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« Reply #200 on: December 28, 2010, 12:24:56 PM »
Is Bingham really that high?  I've heard different things anecdotally.

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« Reply #201 on: December 28, 2010, 12:28:53 PM »
That's what they (Bingham) said. I was asking about moving in by Feb. 1, they said they hoped to be at full (which is not really 100% but close) occupancy by spring.   Not sure how long ago this happened, but apparently it's under new management, and the place looks nice (gym had new equipment, rooms seem clean and nice for their prices), and being a DC resident looking for an urban apartment is sort of new (D.C. real estate could be its own thread, and I don't recommend it...).
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« Reply #202 on: December 28, 2010, 12:56:04 PM »
I always thought the Bingham was really popular but the low price it recently sold for seems to suggest otherwise.

With regard to the parking lots, I think Weston is just waiting for the right opportunity.  You can probably assume that they will try to get in the game for a new build hotel if CCMM/Casino/etc demands it.  A project the scale of what Stark proposed is not likely to happen anytime soon.  JMO.
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Re: Cleveland: Warehouse District Developments
« Reply #203 on: December 30, 2010, 12:53:59 PM »
Hey, Burnham_2011.  Welcome to the board and to the city!  I purchased a condo in the warehouse district in 2006 when Stark was still planning his massive development there.  Unfortunately, there haven't been any major development projects in the warehouse district since the Bingham was completed 5-10 years ago. 

I rent out that condo now and have had three renters in three years.  Speaking to them and other friends of mine looking at moving downtown, there does seem to be a strong demand for downtown Cleveland rental properties, especially single bedroom units.  Those vacancy rates you mentioned for Bridgeview and Bingham align with what I've heard as well.

The company that owns many of the surface lots in the Warehouse District (like where Stark was going to build) have stated they want to do a project when the time (and probably financing) is right.  Stark had a deal with them to build but once it lapsed, they didn't resign.

I'd like to think some new construction will happen on those surface lots within 10 years.  But probably not before your Feb 1 move in date.  :)

And to answer your question about FEB...  The first phrase does not include residential units, just hotel, office and restaurant.  The next phase will have residential but there's no set dates.  In fact, it may be a race between new residential in the FEB and mixed use on the warehouse district parking lots.  I would think that if anything, phrase 1 of FEB will help the warehouse district because it basically straddles the border between the Flats and the warehouse district.  People in the hotel at the north end of West 9th Street will want to go out for food and fun, office workers will be looking for lunch places, etc.  All good things. 

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« Reply #204 on: December 30, 2010, 01:13:58 PM »
I always thought the Bingham was really popular but the low price it recently sold for seems to suggest otherwise.

Wasn't aware of this... have always heard nothing but great things about  Bingham, to the extent that it is usu considered one of the elite rentals downtown (with perhaps spanking new 668 and maybe Reserve Sq. being its biggest large-building competitors)... One thing's for sure: Constantino's is thriving with its recent expansion including a new (I believe) pizzaria section... Was just in there yesterday eve (around 7:30p) and the place was buzzing w/ activity.  Don't know what's going on in the apartments section, but this store can only enhance its rep, where residents don't even have to go outside.
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« Reply #205 on: December 30, 2010, 01:16:14 PM »
Has anyone noticed what is going on in the old Griffon Gallery space. I walked by it on my way home the other day and I could have sworn that it was going to be a barbershop/hair salon??

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« Reply #206 on: December 30, 2010, 02:36:09 PM »
I always thought the Bingham was really popular but the low price it recently sold for seems to suggest otherwise.

With regard to the parking lots, I think Weston is just waiting for the right opportunity.  You can probably assume that they will try to get in the game for a new build hotel if CCMM/Casino/etc demands it.  A project the scale of what Stark proposed is not likely to happen anytime soon.  JMO.
Not sure I understand since the building had high occupancy prior to it's sale and the owners finances had nothing to do with the building's rentals or income.
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« Reply #207 on: January 01, 2011, 01:27:04 PM »
Has anyone noticed what is going on in the old Griffon Gallery space. I walked by it on my way home the other day and I could have sworn that it was going to be a barbershop/hair salon??

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« Reply #208 on: January 01, 2011, 02:06:53 PM »
I always thought the Bingham was really popular but the low price it recently sold for seems to suggest otherwise.

With regard to the parking lots, I think Weston is just waiting for the right opportunity.  You can probably assume that they will try to get in the game for a new build hotel if CCMM/Casino/etc demands it.  A project the scale of what Stark proposed is not likely to happen anytime soon.  JMO.
Not sure I understand since the building had high occupancy prior to it's sale and the owners finances had nothing to do with the building's rentals or income.

That's why the relatively low sales price was so puzzling to me..... unless I just don't know how that type of valuation works.  The building seems like a cash cow
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« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2011, 03:03:52 PM »
There was a banner across the windows on the old 6th Street Pizzeria that said Coming Soon Piano Bar and something else. I missed the second part when I was driving by yesterday.

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