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Re: Cleveland Mayoral Race 2017
« Reply #175 on: June 08, 2017, 04:42:03 PM »
I agree that it'd be ideal to have the next mayor be from outside of Cleveland politics. That's why I'm so unimpressed with our current lineup. However I'm really not sold by Madalone at all, and I'm still a little unclear as to why people on here seem to be preferring him over any of the other "outsider" choices. Why would he be preferable to Chrostowski, whose business at least has a solid social mission and who has done more for the community than Madalone has (as far as I know)?

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« Reply #176 on: June 08, 2017, 04:43:49 PM »
Someone with the last name Lanci has endorsed Madalone - per his website.
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« Reply #177 on: June 08, 2017, 08:01:10 PM »
I agree that it'd be ideal to have the next mayor be from outside of Cleveland politics. That's why I'm so unimpressed with our current lineup. However I'm really not sold by Madalone at all, and I'm still a little unclear as to why people on here seem to be preferring him over any of the other "outsider" choices. Why would he be preferable to Chrostowski, whose business at least has a solid social mission and who has done more for the community than Madalone has (as far as I know)?

I like his immigration, urban and transportation policies as they get away from fear factor (or shakedown factor, ala Johnson) and are more embracing of new approaches. Supporting more aggressive pro-immigrant policies, urging more no-strings-attached development in the neighborhoods, making public transit and biking more of a priority, and establishing a city department of transportation are all progressive policies I like from Tony Mad.
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« Reply #178 on: June 08, 2017, 10:42:36 PM »
I agree that it'd be ideal to have the next mayor be from outside of Cleveland politics. That's why I'm so unimpressed with our current lineup. However I'm really not sold by Madalone at all, and I'm still a little unclear as to why people on here seem to be preferring him over any of the other "outsider" choices. Why would he be preferable to Chrostowski, whose business at least has a solid social mission and who has done more for the community than Madalone has (as far as I know)?

I like his immigration, urban and transportation policies as they get away from fear factor (or shakedown factor, ala Johnson) and are more embracing of new approaches. Supporting more aggressive pro-immigrant policies, urging more no-strings-attached development in the neighborhoods, making public transit and biking more of a priority, and establishing a city department of transportation are all progressive policies I like from Tony Mad.

I just PMed this thread to his campaign FB page.
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« Reply #179 on: June 09, 2017, 08:20:45 AM »
I'm not as familiar with Cleveland politics as probably many of you are, but does an outsider like this really stand a chance in hell?

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« Reply #180 on: June 09, 2017, 08:27:34 AM »
^ possibly,  if he makes it out of the primary.

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« Reply #181 on: June 09, 2017, 01:43:50 PM »
Saw this on Cleveland.com today.

Another candidate enters the race for Mayor of Cleveland.

Former Cleveland mayoral candidate Robert Kilo enters 2017 race


In 2009 Robert Kilo challenged Mayor Frank Jackson, finishing third in the primary behind Jackson and current state Rep. Bill Patmon, a Cleveland Democrat. Kilo is circulating petitions as a candidate for mayor. (Chuck Crow, The Plain Dealer)

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/former_cleveland_mayoral_candi.html


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« Reply #182 on: June 12, 2017, 02:25:00 PM »
I suppose the "Frank Jackson Alternative Urban Transportation Center" is now going to include a firing range.....
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« Reply #183 on: June 14, 2017, 02:44:05 PM »
CLE Chatter: T-shirt guy Tony Madalone pokes Mayor Frank Jackson and Councilman Zack Reed as he readies campaign (and other noteworthy tidbits from our town)
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2017/06/cle_chatter_t-shirt_guy_tony_m.html
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« Reply #184 on: June 14, 2017, 03:35:42 PM »
CLE Chatter: T-shirt guy Tony Madalone pokes Mayor Frank Jackson and Councilman Zack Reed as he readies campaign (and other noteworthy tidbits from our town)
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2017/06/cle_chatter_t-shirt_guy_tony_m.html

"[Umberto] Fedeli is hosting a high-dollar fundraiser for Jackson at his Gates Mills home at the end of the month."

A conservative Republican who lives in the Village of Gates Mills and whose business is located in the City of Independence is hosting a fundraiser for the Democratic mayor of the City of Cleveland
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« Reply #186 on: June 15, 2017, 05:38:51 PM »
Ken Lanci was the Donald Trump of Cleveland before Donald Trump was Donald Trump.

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« Reply #187 on: June 15, 2017, 08:04:23 PM »
CLE Chatter: T-shirt guy Tony Madalone pokes Mayor Frank Jackson and Councilman Zack Reed as he readies campaign (and other noteworthy tidbits from our town)
http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2017/06/cle_chatter_t-shirt_guy_tony_m.html

"[Umberto] Fedeli is hosting a high-dollar fundraiser for Jackson at his Gates Mills home at the end of the month."

A conservative Republican who lives in the Village of Gates Mills and whose business is located in the City of Independence is hosting a fundraiser for the Democratic mayor of the City of Cleveland


ANNNNNNNNNNND the election is over. He's quietly the most powerful man in the county.
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« Reply #188 on: June 15, 2017, 10:11:33 PM »
Look at all of the people living and working outside of Cleveland influencing Cleveland politics and favoring Jackson.

If Jackson is trying to make Cleveland a city of choice but his biggest benefactors chose not to live or work in Cleveland, doesn't that send an unintended message?
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« Reply #189 on: June 16, 2017, 09:24:38 AM »
Look at all of the people living and working outside of Cleveland influencing Cleveland politics and favoring Jackson.

If Jackson is trying to make Cleveland a city of choice but his biggest benefactors chose not to live or work in Cleveland, doesn't that send an unintended message?

Moreover, Fideli's business is in Independence.
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« Reply #190 on: June 16, 2017, 09:32:05 AM »
I'm so disheartened by our current lineup. Can someone please force Chris Ronayne to run? I wanna be on the Ronayne trayne.

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« Reply #191 on: June 16, 2017, 09:41:24 AM »
Look at all of the people living and working outside of Cleveland influencing Cleveland politics and favoring Jackson.

If Jackson is trying to make Cleveland a city of choice but his biggest benefactors chose not to live or work in Cleveland, doesn't that send an unintended message?

Moreover, Fideli's business is in Independence.

A strong believer in regionalism, I guess.

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« Reply #192 on: June 16, 2017, 10:09:53 AM »
Look at all of the people living and working outside of Cleveland influencing Cleveland politics and favoring Jackson.

If Jackson is trying to make Cleveland a city of choice but his biggest benefactors chose not to live or work in Cleveland, doesn't that send an unintended message?

He supposedly had a grandson playing football for Maple Heights last season (I saw him at the Willoughby game) so apparently either his son or daughter chose not to live there either.
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« Reply #193 on: June 16, 2017, 12:49:27 PM »
I'm so disheartened by our current lineup. Can someone please force Chris Ronayne to run? I wanna be on the Ronayne trayne.

Kerping up with the Ronayne trayne would be awfulky tough.

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« Reply #195 on: June 27, 2017, 11:48:00 AM »
Scene Magazine reviewed the Mayoral forum and had some interesting takeaways.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/06/27/unexpected-winners-and-losers-in-cleveland-mayoral-forum

Keep in mind this was the “progressive” coalition.  And Scene.

Brewer’s one of three people I can think of I’d vote for Jackson against (Dennis and Calamity Jane are the others).  He makes excuses for ISIS atrocities and is so disjointed he talks up his air force experience but thought F-15s fought in Vietnam.  He’s great at talking like he knows things, but fact checkers can make it suck to be him.

Ironically, the one thing I don’t give a damn about (his cross dressing skills) is probably what would sink his candidacy if it ever even began to gain traction.

Tony was on the Triv show last week, though it was the actual professional (Glenn Forbes) hosting that day.  I know you guys hate it, I find it unlistenable a lot.  But maybe he and Zack will be on at the same time.

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« Reply #196 on: June 27, 2017, 12:20:07 PM »
Scene Magazine reviewed the Mayoral forum and had some interesting takeaways.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/06/27/unexpected-winners-and-losers-in-cleveland-mayoral-forum

Keep in mind this was the “progressive” coalition.  And Scene.


The reporter seemed to have a grudge against that Kilo guy. I thought his MLK quote in that context (police relations) was thoughtful and eloquent. I suppose he should have instead quoted Bono or something.

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« Reply #197 on: June 27, 2017, 12:54:41 PM »
I don't live in Cleveland myself (Lakewood) but I like to keep up with the politics.  From the people running, I really like Tony M. He seems to have a fresh approach but I worry about his lack of experience.  Jeff Johnson seems to really be playing things correctly.  He does come off as a seasoned politician. I mean that in a good way.  His social media was filled with photos from the Pride festival over the weekend.  He seemed to really enjoy being there and had his rainbow shirt on.  I know this might all be "an act" but I think he might be the most serious challenger. 

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« Reply #198 on: June 27, 2017, 02:13:15 PM »
I don't live in Cleveland myself (Lakewood) but I like to keep up with the politics.  From the people running, I really like Tony M. He seems to have a fresh approach but I worry about his lack of experience.  Jeff Johnson seems to really be playing things correctly.  He does come off as a seasoned politician. I mean that in a good way.  His social media was filled with photos from the Pride festival over the weekend.  He seemed to really enjoy being there and had his rainbow shirt on.  I know this might all be "an act" but I think he might be the most serious challenger. 

Yeah I like Tony too, but I have to agree with the Scene article, and with his skinny jeans he may have a hard time connecting with the non-Detroit Shoreway/Ohio City/Tremont population of the city. 

Argh Johnson supports a citywide $15 minimum wage though....     
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« Reply #199 on: June 27, 2017, 02:13:55 PM »
^^Sorry, but I don't want "an act" for mayor.

I want a person with Integrity, honesty, responsible, etc....

I want a person for mayor who can get this city on the move again. Like it was in the early 1900's, with growth in population, culture, stature. One who can get the population growing again with the things they put into place as mayor. Like more police to serve the community; neighborhood growth through new/rehabbed housing, new and/or expanded businesses, parks and bike/hike paths; a clean/safe city; and a great transportation system to get people to their destination. Just to name a few things.

Education is a key too. With approximately 65% of the students still not graduating from high school in the CLE, the new mayor must work with the corporate community, non-profit community, philanthropy community, to get the children of Cleveland educated.

The current mayor has been in office too long, and he just does not cut it for me. Neither do any of the other career politicians (Brewer, Johnson, Reed). I am hopeful that the residents of the CLE will finally wake up and vote the career politicians out at both levels of city government (council and mayor). That the new mayor will fundamentally make changes that will make the CLE more desirable for new businesses to be started here, or moved here; that the people of NEO and the nation will say wow I want to be a part of what is happening in the CLE.
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« Reply #200 on: June 27, 2017, 02:16:22 PM »
^ I didn't say that it was an act.  Merely that it might be an act.  I guess what I want to say is that Johnson comes across as very polished and wants to focus on neighborhood development over downtown development.  I don't know that I agree with that but he appears to be the best politician in the group of challengers. 

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« Reply #201 on: June 27, 2017, 02:38:11 PM »

Argh Johnson supports a citywide $15 minimum wage though....     


To late, Frank Jackson is already putting it in place.  http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_mayor_frank_jackson_39.html
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« Reply #202 on: June 27, 2017, 02:39:46 PM »
^ That is just for city employees.

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« Reply #203 on: June 27, 2017, 02:40:28 PM »

Argh Johnson supports a citywide $15 minimum wage though....     


To late, Frank Jackson is already putting it in place.  http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_mayor_frank_jackson_39.html
Yeah he is putting it in place at the city employee level.  What a dumb a$$.     
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« Reply #204 on: June 27, 2017, 02:41:49 PM »
^ I'd find it hard to believe that there are very many city employees that make less than $15 per hour but perhaps some clerks and part-time workers. 

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« Reply #205 on: June 27, 2017, 02:50:06 PM »
^ I'd find it hard to believe that there are very many city employees that make less than $15 per hour but perhaps some clerks and part-time workers. 

It's hard to find very many that DESERVE $15/hour from my experience.
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« Reply #206 on: June 27, 2017, 03:53:28 PM »
What about all the summer help?  Or are they excluded? 
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« Reply #207 on: June 29, 2017, 07:40:19 AM »
^ I'd find it hard to believe that there are very many city employees that make less than $15 per hour but perhaps some clerks and part-time workers. 

I wonder how many unionized employees get automatic raises if their salary falls below a certain percentage of the "base rate".  Such contracts aren't uncommon in the private sector.   Stealth raise in exchange for an endorsement?
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« Reply #208 on: June 29, 2017, 10:32:58 AM »
Just saw with the wikipedia entry on the election. Long list of people.  I know its not always accurate....Madalone is not listed, for example. But I was trying to find a global view of the election and couldn't find one anywhere else.

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« Reply #209 on: June 29, 2017, 02:57:50 PM »
They don't have to, Zack. You just did it for them...

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