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« Reply #175 on: October 20, 2016, 04:53:26 PM »
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/10/20/welcome-back-cincinnati-historic-reiss-murals/92404120/

The murals are now installed in nearly the most obscure corner of downtown imaginable.  Each one is behind 3-4 panes of glass so it's pretty tough to look at them, aside from the fact that they're in such a weird place. 

So now some of the murals are tacked onto the side of the convention center, some are in CVG's Terminal 3 lobby, and some are in Concourse B.  With rumors that Concourse B will be demolished, those will be on the move at some point. 




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« Reply #176 on: October 20, 2016, 05:11:33 PM »
^Plus some were never moved from Cincinnati Union Terminal.

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« Reply #177 on: October 21, 2016, 12:00:26 AM »
If we were just going to tack them onto the outside of a building, why didn't we simply glass- enlose them along a "Promenade of Murals" leading up to the Union Terminal? Could of worked it into the renovation budget.

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« Reply #178 on: October 21, 2016, 06:47:40 AM »
It seems as if the convention center is where we put our relics of beautiful things we've destroyed (The Albee). Maybe Mr Joseph can take all those facades from the 80s he tore down and line them on 4th street. And when the Dennison goes we can stuff its bricks somewhere on the building too.

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« Reply #179 on: October 21, 2016, 08:10:55 AM »
So it sounds from the article like this is a temporary home? Is that true and they may possibly move later when a better spot is found, or is the article just awkwardly worded? Did anyone else see them when they were just sitting there with ripped off tarps exposed to the elements and possible vandals and just shake their heads too? Very oddly handled for such priceless and important artworks. Not by the rigging and moving people they were all pros (and sadly getting used to moving these) but by the city for some reason. Are the Weiss & Cranley families a fuedin' like the Hatfields & McCoys or something?

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« Reply #180 on: October 21, 2016, 08:23:57 AM »
Yeah, I saw them under the awning but nevertheless exposed to the weather also back in August and September.  They're plaster, so if they had gotten wet, they would have been ruined.  It was simply beyond belief. 

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« Reply #181 on: October 21, 2016, 09:00:02 AM »
The Cincinnati preservation community has consistently hewed to the position that this is only temporary and not their final resting place.  The Mayor has consistently ignored the preservation community on this issue and basically did this all on his own. 

Ideally, when the Millennium goes down and an expanded convention center is built in its stead, these could be incorporated into the new structure.

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« Reply #182 on: October 21, 2016, 09:17:42 AM »
^ I heard him being defensive at the unveiling saying something like 'a lot of people have issues with the location' but that this was a historic and important area (?!?) and that it would be featured in future city walking tours that are being developed.

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« Reply #183 on: October 21, 2016, 09:39:30 AM »
yeah....such a pedestrian-friendly area!!! Who wouldn't love a stroll on Central Ave between I75 and the convention center?

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« Reply #184 on: October 21, 2016, 09:52:29 AM »
The fact that out of 9 council members, a mayor, a city manager, 3 county commissioners, and a laundry list of other highly placed individuals, not ONE to my knowledge has thrown a fit over the travesty of this location, is simply amazing. This artwork truly unique, and we as a city should be trying to hit visitors over the head with it, not hiding it away.

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« Reply #185 on: October 21, 2016, 09:55:41 AM »
These murals were commissioned as public art, but perhaps they should be moved to the art museum whenever it expands so that we can be done with this nonsense. 

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« Reply #186 on: October 21, 2016, 10:08:05 AM »
^ I heard him being defensive at the unveiling saying something like 'a lot of people have issues with the location' but that this was a historic and important area (?!?) and that it would be featured in future city walking tours that are being developed.


Not sure why he inserted the "outdoor" part but here is the quote i was refering to. Heard it on VXU. I do like that they are lit at least.

"The murals are behind protective glass and will be illuminated at night.

Mayor John Cranley says some people have asked why the murals were installed on the outside of the convention center.

"This is outdoor public art and will become part of a Downtown walking tour. And this is a part of Downtown that's worth seeing."

Cranley also says the murals are so heavy few walls can support them. Each mural is 20 by 20 feet, 8 inches thick, and weighs 8 tons."

http://wvxu.org/post/reiss-murals-rededicated-outside-convention-center#stream/0

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Re: Cincinnati: Downtown: Convention Center
« Reply #187 on: October 21, 2016, 10:10:25 AM »
The fact that out of 9 council members, a mayor, a city manager, 3 county commissioners, and a laundry list of other highly placed individuals, not ONE to my knowledge has thrown a fit over the travesty of this location, is simply amazing. This artwork truly unique, and we as a city should be trying to hit visitors over the head with it, not hiding it away.

I don't know that any of them have "thrown a fit" over the location but several made it clear that this should not be the permanent location. They approved the money to move them to this location because if they wouldn't have done so, they would've been lost permanently as CVG Terminals 1 & 2 are being demolished.
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« Reply #188 on: October 21, 2016, 10:30:02 AM »
Ideally, when the Millennium goes down and an expanded convention center is built in its stead, these could be incorporated into the new structure.

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« Reply #189 on: March 15, 2017, 09:42:24 AM »
Portune: ‘We are going to expand the Duke Energy Convention Center’
Mar 15, 2017, 6:37am EDT
Tom Demeropolis
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Cincinnati Business Courier


Hamilton County Commission President Todd Portune is throwing his support behind the effort to expand the Duke Energy Convention Center and get a first-class headquarters hotel in downtown Cincinnati.

“We leave this room with a firm commitment to one another that we are going to expand the Duke Energy Convention Center and build a first-class headquarters hotel,” Portune said during the Cincinnati USA Convention and Visitors Bureau annual meeting.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/03/15/portune-we-are-going-to-expand-the-duke-energy.html
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« Reply #190 on: August 08, 2017, 11:46:16 AM »
The city making a move to improve the area around the the convention center, maybe... Buildings from the 80s are nearly as dreadful as the music from the 80s

City battles blight at front door of Duke Energy Convention Center


Convention Place Mall is an office and retail complex built on city-owned land at 435 Elm Street by developer Harvey Cohen in 1983.

The city of Cincinnati shut down a section of the Downtown skywalk near Duke Energy Convention Center this month after inspectors found “deteriorated steel” in the metal platform leading to Convention Place Mall.

It’s the latest in a series of legal skirmishes that could lead to an eviction, foreclosure or bankruptcy filing by two companies that control the office building and retail center across from the convention center’s main entrance at Fifth and Elm streets.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/city-battles-blight-at-front-door-of-duke-energy-convention-center

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« Reply #191 on: August 08, 2017, 12:02:36 PM »
^Chip Hart is quoted in this article. Then I remembered he wrote an op-ed in the Enquirer about how the Convention Center DOES NOT need to be expanded in an article about the arena. Hart is owner of Hart Productions who hold tons of shows there.

Hotel tax ideal funding source for arena renovation

"...For many reasons, there is no need for an expansion of the convention center. First, there is no room downtown for any measurable expansion that would enable DECC to compete even with Columbus or Indianapolis. There is a glut of buildings nationwide that will not likely be filled anytime in our lifetime.

There also is a complete lack of post-convention and trade show economic impact studies of those events held in Cincinnati that would justify any further expansion. They just don’t exist. Every study (if you want to call them that) available is purely speculative and based completely on projections of attendance, individual spending using homogenized national spending models, and projected length of stay for every delegate.

The last two expansions of our convention center were based on projections and speculation. Convention and trade show economic impacts are not mentioned anymore, rather projected hotel room nights are used in their place...

...Our company has used the convention center since 1967 and has always been the single-largest user. We’ve paid millions of dollars in rent over the past 60 years. We’ve put millions of people through the doors of the DECC. Our shows have generated real quantifiable billions in economic impact with high-profile consumer trade shows.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/07/21/hotel-tax-ideal-funding-source-arena-renovation/491095001/

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