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Re: Cleveland: Gateway District Developments
« Reply #175 on: February 07, 2014, 01:37:43 AM »
Mr. Danial is associated with the Morgan Reed Group, which owns this: http://morganreed.com/public_square_tech.html

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« Reply #176 on: February 07, 2014, 02:20:30 AM »
Mr. Danial is associated with the Morgan Reed Group, which owns this: http://morganreed.com/public_square_tech.html

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Yes very. All this behind the scene stuff. Good work today guys. And I am pissed at myself for spending 30 minutes today searching for Robert Danial and I just realized I was spelling it as 'Daniel' with an 'e' ...dumbass
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Re: Cleveland: Gateway District Developments
« Reply #177 on: February 07, 2014, 03:23:43 AM »
That is odd, since Danial is selling most of the May Company Building for the apartment conversion.

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« Reply #178 on: February 07, 2014, 03:45:14 AM »
Great, the guy that allows plywood infill in windows on The May Company now owns more property...
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« Reply #179 on: February 07, 2014, 05:21:59 AM »
Prospect:  I really hoping these buildings don't get torn down.  Prospect is actually one of my favorite streets to travel down and seems like it has a lot more untapped potential.

May Garage:  Is this transaction going to affect the potential sale and conversion of this building into apartments?  I wonder if this is a speculative move to profit off of the potential apartment development.

Stanley lot:  I'm really curious to see what/if anything will be done on this lot.  It is such a small parcel which doesn't leave many options.  Does the casino have plans to incorporate this space into their garage?  Has anyone heard of potential uses with this site?

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« Reply #180 on: February 07, 2014, 05:31:00 AM »
Wasn't the Morgan Reed group the people that proposed converting most of the floors in the May Company building to a parking garage? :roll: His group likely just wants in on the parking game downtown. The structure across from the hotel would be a good start.

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« Reply #181 on: February 07, 2014, 05:57:21 AM »
Isn't this garage the 11 story garage mentioned on the Public Square Tech Center website posted above?  It sounds to me like the garage is being shuffled around between entities-not truly changing ownership.

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« Reply #182 on: February 07, 2014, 05:38:53 PM »
It has been a while since I checked the docket in the court action and I just did so given the above posts.

A Judgment Entry was issued (after months of motion practice) on Jan. 23 2014 and the case is now listed as closed on the docket.  Unfortunately I cannot tell from the docket (Cleveland Muny court dockets suck) what the disposition of the case was and who won.  Since it has been a couple of weeks I would have thought Michelle might have reported on this by now. 

I could only guess what the fence is all about.  Maybe the court ordered something that mandated the fence (given the condition of the property).  I can't imagine a demolition permit has been issued so quickly, especially with no publicity.

Sorry for the late reply on this one. It's my understanding that the case isn't closed - that's a bizarre notation thing that happens on the Housing Court docket, and it doesn't mean anything. I have seen Judge Pianka's recent decision, and I'm monitoring this situation. There's more going on behind the scenes. I don't have anything to write about yet, but I expect that I will soon.

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« Reply #183 on: February 07, 2014, 06:23:27 PM »
There's more going on behind the scenes. I don't have anything to write about yet, but I expect that I will soon.

Michelle - are these good things going on behind the scenes?  :wtf:

Also, thanks for the update.
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« Reply #184 on: February 07, 2014, 06:37:46 PM »
Thanks Michelle!
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« Reply #185 on: February 07, 2014, 07:33:26 PM »
There's more going on behind the scenes. I don't have anything to write about yet, but I expect that I will soon.

Michelle - are these good things going on behind the scenes?  :wtf:

Also, thanks for the update.

I don't know yet whether they're "good" or "bad." I guess it will depend on your definition of "good." As a reporter, I can't really weigh in on that. But I promise I'll write an update story as soon as there's enough reliable information to support one.

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Re: Cleveland: Gateway District Developments
« Reply #186 on: February 07, 2014, 07:37:10 PM »
Isn't this garage the 11 story garage mentioned on the Public Square Tech Center website posted above?  It sounds to me like the garage is being shuffled around between entities-not truly changing ownership.

That's usually true when there's a quit-claim deed transfer. There's usually no dollar amount attached to it. But this transfer showed a $3 million sale amount, along with a $12,000 conveyance fee.
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« Reply #187 on: February 07, 2014, 07:45:44 PM »
I don't know yet whether they're "good" or "bad." I guess it will depend on your definition of "good." As a reporter, I can't really weigh in on that. But I promise I'll write an update story as soon as there's enough reliable information to support one.

I can dig it - thanks.  I'm nervous.
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« Reply #188 on: February 07, 2014, 07:59:12 PM »
I don't know yet whether they're "good" or "bad." I guess it will depend on your definition of "good." As a reporter, I can't really weigh in on that. But I promise I'll write an update story as soon as there's enough reliable information to support one.

I can dig it - thanks.  I'm nervous.

Agreed.  That response made me more nervous. ha

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« Reply #189 on: February 07, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »
I don't know yet whether they're "good" or "bad." I guess it will depend on your definition of "good." As a reporter, I can't really weigh in on that. But I promise I'll write an update story as soon as there's enough reliable information to support one.

Michelle

Will this board (the general consensus, at least) consider it "good" or "bad"?  You can reveal that without showing any bias or lack of objectivity as a reporter ;)
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« Reply #190 on: February 07, 2014, 10:36:21 PM »
I don't know yet whether they're "good" or "bad." I guess it will depend on your definition of "good." As a reporter, I can't really weigh in on that. But I promise I'll write an update story as soon as there's enough reliable information to support one.

Michelle

Will this board (the general consensus, at least) consider it "good" or "bad"?  You can reveal that without showing any bias or lack of objectivity as a reporter ;)

Not trying to make anyone nervous! I just don't have enough information yet to draw an informed conclusion.

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« Reply #191 on: February 07, 2014, 11:41:40 PM »
^Darn reporters!  Putting speculation aside and waiting on the facts.  Can someone give me some baseless speculation please!

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« Reply #192 on: February 07, 2014, 11:45:25 PM »
Demolition, followed by construction of a Dollar Store, set back from the street, plenty of parking.   How's that?
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« Reply #193 on: February 08, 2014, 12:13:06 AM »
Demolition, followed by construction of a Dollar Store, set back from the street, plenty of parking.   How's that?

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« Reply #194 on: February 19, 2014, 02:44:09 PM »
Since you asked ...

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/02/lr_seeks_demolition_of_herold.html#incart_river_default

L&R is seeking demolition. Plans show a single-story retail building, topped by digital billboards, on the Herold Building site and the neighboring parking lot.
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« Reply #195 on: February 19, 2014, 03:45:57 PM »
Is this a "placeholder" land use plan that a property owner submits with a demo request only because they have to submit a land use plan? Or is there a signed tenant they will disclose?
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« Reply #196 on: February 19, 2014, 03:49:26 PM »
Tacky and doesn't fit well with the other buildings, I vision prospect to be retail row (actual shopping), feeding off of the energy from Euclid Ave. and E. 4th street, but only through redevelopment or building substantial buildings on the paring lots.

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« Reply #197 on: February 19, 2014, 04:11:01 PM »
Disgusting
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« Reply #198 on: February 19, 2014, 05:33:35 PM »
Single story?  Really?  So much for density.  There should be zoning restrictions for a minimum of 3-4 stories in the City Center.
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« Reply #199 on: February 19, 2014, 05:41:25 PM »
One word for the 1-story Herold Building proposal... DIE!!

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« Reply #200 on: February 19, 2014, 05:52:59 PM »
I have to think that this is a ploy and not a serious proposal
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« Reply #201 on: February 19, 2014, 05:54:35 PM »
I think it is a great proposal that will add a lot of life to a very dead stretch of land.

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« Reply #202 on: February 19, 2014, 05:57:04 PM »
I think it is a great proposal that will add a lot of life to a very dead stretch of land.

I hate the proposal. But I hate vacant buildings and surface parking lots more.
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« Reply #203 on: February 19, 2014, 06:10:27 PM »
Is this a "placeholder" land use plan that a property owner submits with a demo request only because they have to submit a land use plan? Or is there a signed tenant they will disclose?
Bingo!  How many times to we see this in the world of development...

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« Reply #204 on: February 19, 2014, 06:29:18 PM »
I just don't understand what the owner is trying to accomplish.  It is not only paying big time lawyer fees but now is being invoiced by Richard Bowen.  Why is this out of state investor so intent on keeping this property (headache) that is bleeding money (especially now that there is no revenue from parking and would not be any under their "proposal" since the new "development" eats up the parking lot).  It has got to be just a blip in their portfolio.  Why not just dump it on Weston (a rare willing buyer) at a reasonable price, be done with it and enjoy the sunshine in CA.  The only thing I can think of it that they are doing it for tax reasons.

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« Reply #205 on: February 19, 2014, 07:03:18 PM »
^If only LR and Weston could agree upon a "reasonable price"....

I don't think LR has any reluctance whatsoever to sell to Weston.  It probably just feels that Weston's offer is insulting.
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« Reply #206 on: February 19, 2014, 07:14:39 PM »
^Obviously I don't know what the status of the negotiations are but if I were the owner I would be willing to give Weston a "pain in the a$$" discount (especially since they really are just, at least in Cleveland, parking lot investors and they don't have access to the parking lot).

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« Reply #207 on: February 19, 2014, 07:23:32 PM »
^And given the city's relatively cheap land costs, all those court/lawyer/architecture fees would quickly eat into any additional purchase price LR is trying to extract.

In the oft chance this is a good faith development proposal, I hope the city sticks to its guns and nixes the video billboard. The more revenue the owner can generate from a subpar use, the less likely the lot will be redeveloped with something better down the line.
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« Reply #208 on: February 19, 2014, 08:48:36 PM »
If this thing goes through I feel bad for the people living along that stretch of Prospect- it'll be a flashing nightmare in their apartments at all times of the night.

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« Reply #209 on: February 19, 2014, 09:04:40 PM »
If this thing goes through I feel bad for the people living along that stretch of Prospect- it'll be a flashing nightmare in their apartments at all times of the night.

Agree completely!!  First thing I thought of was the Seinfeld where Kramer/Jerry lived across from "Kenny Rogers Roasters".

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