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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1365 on: September 07, 2016, 10:03:07 AM »
Is it just going to be on the first floor, or will it be two levels, do you guys think? While it will be a great thing for residents of the area to have a Target, I think another benefit of landing Target is the symbol it sends to other national retailers.  If Clifton Heights is seen as being good enough for Target, I think a lot of other restaurants and retailers will be more confident in locating there.  If you think of U Square as a mall, I think Target is the first 'anchor tenant' they've landed, which should help draw other retail around it.  Who knows, maybe we'll even see another pipe dream proposal floated for the site to the east of U Square. That big vacant lot looks terrible right now, and it's really the last big puzzle piece missing in Uptown.

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« Reply #1366 on: September 07, 2016, 10:15:47 AM »
I used to shop at Target for groceries but their fresh selections were a little lacking - with a lot of food spoilage and items out of date. Here is a great article about why they are struggling in this regard, but I suspect that the urban Target will have less fresh food and more packaged items.

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« Reply #1367 on: September 07, 2016, 10:18:51 AM »
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The defunct High Class Boutique on the corner of Fairview and Ravine, which advertised "High-Waisted Jeans, Bodysuits, and Rompers", was recently replaced by University Mattresses, complete with a creepy mannequin laying down on a mattress in the front window. Just in case you weren't sure what a mattress was for.

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« Reply #1368 on: September 07, 2016, 10:19:14 AM »
I hope this Target sells vaping supplies, hookahs, and used mattresses so the bulk of CUF's other businesses are forced to upgrade.

Maybe it will sell Jimbo T-shirts and become a police sub-station. 


It seems like CPD has phased out their police sub-stations.  All the ones I knew about are closed, or are there still some left?

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« Reply #1369 on: September 07, 2016, 10:20:26 AM »
The Banks?

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« Reply #1370 on: September 07, 2016, 10:26:16 AM »
I hope this Target sells vaping supplies, hookahs, and used mattresses so the bulk of CUF's other businesses are forced to upgrade.

Maybe it will sell Jimbo T-shirts and become a police sub-station. 


It seems like CPD has phased out their police sub-stations.  All the ones I knew about are closed, or are there still some left?

The Stop N Go is still, I believe, a police sub-station, even though fights still break out in the parking lot with some regularity.  I personally witnesses a 10-on-10 fight in that lot about six months ago that went on forever before the police showed up.  There is pretty constant police activity along that strip on Fridays and Saturdays when the bars close, and the Shell station remains a constant magnet for motorcyclists and loitering by black teenagers.  I have no idea why people choose to gather at that gas station night after night, year after year when there is nothing for teenagers to do in that area and they don't even live there. 




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« Reply #1371 on: September 07, 2016, 10:30:58 AM »
wait wait wait.....ALTAR'D STATE CLOSED??!!??

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« Reply #1372 on: September 07, 2016, 10:38:27 AM »
I hope this Target sells vaping supplies, hookahs, and used mattresses so the bulk of CUF's other businesses are forced to upgrade.

Maybe it will sell Jimbo T-shirts and become a police sub-station. 


It seems like CPD has phased out their police sub-stations.  All the ones I knew about are closed, or are there still some left?

The Stop N Go is still, I believe, a police sub-station, even though fights still break out in the parking lot with some regularity.  I personally witnesses a 10-on-10 fight in that lot about six months ago that went on forever before the police showed up.  There is pretty constant police activity along that strip on Fridays and Saturdays when the bars close, and the Shell station remains a constant magnet for motorcyclists and loitering by black teenagers.  I have no idea why people choose to gather at that gas station night after night, year after year when there is nothing for teenagers to do in that area and they don't even live there. 


Take a drive down Calhoun on basically any Friday or Saturday night with decent weather, and there is almost always a huge crowd of teenagers hanging out and partying and what not.  The first time I saw it I couldn't believe it. It's total madness, often ending with multiple police cars shutting the whole thing down around midnight.  I have no idea why the Shell seems to be the hangout spot, but it definitely is.

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« Reply #1373 on: September 07, 2016, 10:48:23 AM »
wait wait wait.....ALTAR'D STATE CLOSED??!!??

Who knew there wasn't enough demand to support a vaguely Christian clothing store at the edge of UC's campus?
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« Reply #1374 on: September 07, 2016, 11:00:05 AM »
I hope this Target sells vaping supplies, hookahs, and used mattresses so the bulk of CUF's other businesses are forced to upgrade.

Maybe it will sell Jimbo T-shirts and become a police sub-station. 


It seems like CPD has phased out their police sub-stations.  All the ones I knew about are closed, or are there still some left?

The Stop N Go is still, I believe, a police sub-station, even though fights still break out in the parking lot with some regularity.  I personally witnesses a 10-on-10 fight in that lot about six months ago that went on forever before the police showed up.  There is pretty constant police activity along that strip on Fridays and Saturdays when the bars close, and the Shell station remains a constant magnet for motorcyclists and loitering by black teenagers.  I have no idea why people choose to gather at that gas station night after night, year after year when there is nothing for teenagers to do in that area and they don't even live there. 


Take a drive down Calhoun on basically any Friday or Saturday night with decent weather, and there is almost always a huge crowd of teenagers hanging out and partying and what not.  The first time I saw it I couldn't believe it. It's total madness, often ending with multiple police cars shutting the whole thing down around midnight.  I have no idea why the Shell seems to be the hangout spot, but it definitely is.

Do they sell race gas? Urban sportbike riders like running race gas because it smells cool. The bikes rarely actually have high enough compression ratios to actually need it.

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« Reply #1375 on: September 07, 2016, 11:44:33 AM »
The Stop N Go is still, I believe, a police sub-station, even though fights still break out in the parking lot with some regularity.  I personally witnesses a 10-on-10 fight in that lot about six months ago that went on forever before the police showed up.  There is pretty constant police activity along that strip on Fridays and Saturdays when the bars close, and the Shell station remains a constant magnet for motorcyclists and loitering by black teenagers.  I have no idea why people choose to gather at that gas station night after night, year after year when there is nothing for teenagers to do in that area and they don't even live there. 

I'm at that Stop & Go a few times a month to buy a six pack, and I have seen cops walk in and go through the doors to back of house several times. I assume they have an office of some sort back there but I don't think it is always staffed, or even staffed very often at all. 

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« Reply #1376 on: September 07, 2016, 11:59:51 AM »
I hope this Target sells vaping supplies, hookahs, and used mattresses so the bulk of CUF's other businesses are forced to upgrade.

Maybe it will sell Jimbo T-shirts and become a police sub-station. 


It seems like CPD has phased out their police sub-stations.  All the ones I knew about are closed, or are there still some left?

The Stop N Go is still, I believe, a police sub-station, even though fights still break out in the parking lot with some regularity.  I personally witnesses a 10-on-10 fight in that lot about six months ago that went on forever before the police showed up.  There is pretty constant police activity along that strip on Fridays and Saturdays when the bars close, and the Shell station remains a constant magnet for motorcyclists and loitering by black teenagers.  I have no idea why people choose to gather at that gas station night after night, year after year when there is nothing for teenagers to do in that area and they don't even live there. 


Take a drive down Calhoun on basically any Friday or Saturday night with decent weather, and there is almost always a huge crowd of teenagers hanging out and partying and what not.  The first time I saw it I couldn't believe it. It's total madness, often ending with multiple police cars shutting the whole thing down around midnight.  I have no idea why the Shell seems to be the hangout spot, but it definitely is.

Do they sell race gas? Urban sportbike riders like running race gas because it smells cool. The bikes rarely actually have high enough compression ratios to actually need it.

No I don't think they do.  It's just that the gas station has a bit of a parking lot which none of the others in the area do.  Also, when it rains, they all gather and take shelter in the U Square garage right next door. 

I was filling up my tires at their pump a few weeks ago and some woman with a bag of BW3's food was throwing a fit because they towed her car.  People always want to park in their surface lot even though there is free 30-minute parking in the garage that literally abuts the Shell station.  Also, everyone knows that carry-out at BW3's is slow.

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« Reply #1377 on: September 07, 2016, 12:03:06 PM »
Take a drive down Calhoun on basically any Friday or Saturday night with decent weather, and there is almost always a huge crowd of teenagers hanging out and partying and what not.  The first time I saw it I couldn't believe it. It's total madness, often ending with multiple police cars shutting the whole thing down around midnight.  I have no idea why the Shell seems to be the hangout spot, but it definitely is.

There used to be tons of loitering before cell phones in shopping center parking lots and so on because people would pick a place to meet before going wherever they were going.  One time I met 100+ carloads of people at an abandoned Wal-Mart before heading out into the country to a party on a farm (no phones, no GPS, etc.).  But now this Shell gas station, mysteriously, seems to be the destination. 


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« Reply #1378 on: September 07, 2016, 12:27:16 PM »
Is it just going to be on the first floor, or will it be two levels, do you guys think? While it will be a great thing for residents of the area to have a Target, I think another benefit of landing Target is the symbol it sends to other national retailers.  If Clifton Heights is seen as being good enough for Target, I think a lot of other restaurants and retailers will be more confident in locating there.  If you think of U Square as a mall, I think Target is the first 'anchor tenant' they've landed, which should help draw other retail around it.  Who knows, maybe we'll even see another pipe dream proposal floated for the site to the east of U Square. That big vacant lot looks terrible right now, and it's really the last big puzzle piece missing in Uptown.

I'm pretty sure Target will just be the first floor. The first floor has 25,000 sq ft of finished area (per the auditor's site), so if Target uses just 17,700 sq ft, there will still be leftover room for the common areas (which are used to access the upper floors) and perhaps a couple of the existing retailers which might remain.

http://wedge3.hcauditor.org/view/re/1020006016300/2015/appraisal

The upper floors have heights of just 12' while the first floor is 16'. So, the building is set up for retail on the first floor, and offices on the second and third floors.

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« Reply #1379 on: September 10, 2016, 09:21:54 AM »
No doubt this was yet another Stop N Go, Schell Station-related incident.


9:34 a.m. EDT September 10, 2016

Around midnight Friday, shots were fired near University of Cincinnatiís campus.

Police say shots were fired on Moerlein at 11:45 p.m. No injuries were reported.

Two vehicles were involved in the shooting, one black and the other one gray. Both were last seen heading towards Ohio Avenue.

No suspects were detained.

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« Reply #1380 on: March 06, 2017, 02:05:06 AM »
Construction of the Target is now underway in the space formerly occupied by Alter'd State, Body Central, and Smoothie King.  Alter'd State and Body Central each appear to be dead but Smoothie King has moved around the corner within the same building to Calhoun St. next to Great Clips. 


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« Reply #1381 on: March 06, 2017, 09:31:50 AM »
I wonder if Smoothie King got a deal to move out of the way of the space Target needed. That's the only logical way in my mind that they could move after doing what appeared to be abysmal business.

Their spot was bad. That single storefront was behind the railing which just obscured its spot. It doesn't seem like that would do a ton but it was just enough to make it unnoticeable. I'd imagine it'll do quite a bit better along Calhoun instead of in a weird spot on a pass through street.

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« Reply #1382 on: March 14, 2017, 09:16:57 PM »
I just read that the urban Target being built near OSU will have a CVS Pharmacy inside. Does anyone know whether the U Square one will too? If so, it probably doesn't make sense for CVS to continue to operate their standalone pharmacy at McMicken & Vine in addition to one a few blocks down the street inside Target...
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« Reply #1383 on: March 14, 2017, 09:30:25 PM »
They probably will do both. Whereas CVS makes money off of the retail stores in their own locations they only get to make money off of the actual pharmacy part in the Target. Some pharmacists told me that Target-operated pharmacies were the best to work at while CVSs are the worst. Apparently there's no money in operating a pharmacy where the staff is really happy.

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« Reply #1384 on: July 11, 2017, 02:31:22 PM »
Target sets opening date for store near UC
Jul 11, 2017, 2:07pm EDT
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A national retailer' first small-format store in Cincinnati has set a date to open near the University of Cincinnati.

Target's 17,500-squre-foot urban store at 235 Calhoun St. at U Square @ the Loop will hold a grand opening on July 23. The store will contain assortments for students and campus residents, including everyday essentials, home products for dorm and apartment living, select men's and women's apparel and accessories, a selection of groceries, tech products and accessories.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/07/11/target-sets-opening-date-for-store-near.html
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