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« Reply #4935 on: April 26, 2017, 09:54:21 AM »
this image is from a past attempt to renovate and expand this property. That project fell through and the building/land was sold to another entity. But from what i understand, the new project will also include an addition.

Thanks for the info. I hope the new project looks as good as the original plan.

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« Reply #4936 on: April 26, 2017, 11:49:50 AM »
A building permit for 1468 West 25th  St. is listed under the name Mark Raymond,  who I am assuming might be the same one who owns The Cleveland Hostel. Shows the job value at 2 million. Anyone heard anything about this building?

renovation, addition. hotel.
Good.  Now let's get going with it please, though I'd like to see new, well designed fill-in on the west side of West 25th.

This is a very nice and creative project... I'd also like to see some similar development replacing the infamous Market Sq. plaza and the area south near the Red Line Rapid station where, currently, there are parking lots and small warehouses and weedy areas along Gehring Street.  You know... TOD.

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« Reply #4937 on: April 26, 2017, 11:54:10 AM »
Here is the plan for 1468 W. 25th from the Landmarks agenda February 2015:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/02262015/index.php



Wasn't there also a building project proposed between this project and the corner of West 25th/Church Avenue?
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« Reply #4938 on: April 26, 2017, 12:06:37 PM »
Wasn't there also a building project proposed between this project and the corner of West 25th/Church Avenue?

Not sure. According to the GIS, the small parcel next to the above building is owned by West 25th St Lofts LLC, which is the owner of the renovated apartment building on the other side of Church. I don't remember seeing anything proposed for that lot.

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« Reply #4939 on: April 26, 2017, 12:13:31 PM »
There will be an addition, but the old scheme is not what it will be. That was when it was going to be condos.
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« Reply #4940 on: April 26, 2017, 03:43:53 PM »
I haven't heard anything about any development happening on that 25th & Church parking lot (at least not in the near future). It was recently re-paved within the last couple months and the existing / future developers in the area are pretty happy with the new(ish) David Shillinglaw mural on the south-facing side of the 1468 building

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« Reply #4941 on: April 26, 2017, 04:01:30 PM »
The addition would go on the north empty parcel
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« Reply #4942 on: April 28, 2017, 08:25:28 AM »
Here is the updated project from above.

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/04/cleveland_hostel_owner_plans_b.html

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Cleveland Hostel owner plans boutique hotel in Ohio City, on West 25th Street (photos)
CLEVELAND, Ohio - Cleveland Hostel owner Mark Raymond is shouldering his second hospitality project in the Ohio City neighborhood: A boutique hotel blending old and new construction.

The 25-room project, named the Hulett Hotel in a nod to Northeast Ohio's industrial history, would sit on West 25th Street north of Church Avenue. Raymond aims to renovate a three-story brick building, vacated years ago by Lutheran Metropolitan Ministry, and to build a four-story, modern addition on an adjacent parking lot to the north.





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« Reply #4943 on: April 28, 2017, 09:13:04 AM »
^ That's awesome. I can't wait for the day that all the gaps are filled on W 25th between Detroit and Lorain.

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« Reply #4944 on: April 28, 2017, 09:51:27 AM »
THAT is some cool looking infill.  This area is going to be changing rapidly.

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« Reply #4945 on: April 28, 2017, 09:56:23 AM »
If the soil conditions permit, that western edge of West 25th really is super prime for intense development to take in those views.
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« Reply #4946 on: April 28, 2017, 10:02:51 AM »
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If the soil conditions permit, that western edge of West 25th really is super prime for intense development to take in those views.

Agreed.  This is arguably the best place for some real density in ohio city.  It's about time that Lutheran reevaluates the parking lots as they own about 750' of frontage on West 25th that is currently surface parking.  I've always thought that a garage in the middle of the Aust-Franklin block would allow for some great development, but its a hard financial decision if you don't have to pay real estate taxes...  Just seems to be getting to the point where they are holding back the neighborhood with those lots.

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« Reply #4947 on: April 28, 2017, 11:13:56 AM »
Mark Raymond has done an excellent job with the Hostel so I have no doubt he will duplicate this effort in the Hulett.  The rendering is mega-cool. 

It's interesting in the article Raymond notes that a number of his Hostel guests could afford traditional hotels but prefer to stay in OC.  Hulett obviously is a step in the right direction for more diverse lodging in OC that can more capture that audience.  I  wonder why more businesses have not chosen to move to the neighborhood as well.  It's desirable on multiple fronts as well as being highly accessible.

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« Reply #4948 on: April 28, 2017, 11:48:34 AM »
If the soil conditions permit, that western edge of West 25th really is super prime for intense development to take in those views.

When rents reach the right level, it should allow a developer to afford sinking caissons to bedrock to support development here, regardless of soil conditions. Some high-value housing has been built along the west side of the Rocky River valley which has the same slope stabilization issues (porous shale), but the housing was built atop expensive caissons.



Agreed.  This is arguably the best place for some real density in ohio city.  It's about time that Lutheran reevaluates the parking lots as they own about 750' of frontage on West 25th that is currently surface parking.  I've always thought that a garage in the middle of the Aust-Franklin block would allow for some great development, but its a hard financial decision if you don't have to pay real estate taxes...  Just seems to be getting to the point where they are holding back the neighborhood with those lots.

That's been considered. In fact, you'll noticed on the CPC GIS that the area on both sides of West 25th (the Irish Ben hillside and the Lutheran Hospital parking lot) were zoned with urban overlay districts with a PRO (Pedestrian Retail Overlay) for street level frontage. So the CDC and the city have made its intentions known what it wants there, and considering the main stakeholder involved (Cleveland Clinic), apparently they're OK with it. I can't see the city zoning it with the urban/PRO overlays without consent of the property owner.
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« Reply #4949 on: April 29, 2017, 05:42:37 PM »
Things moving quickly at the Snavely site:

From W28 looking towards Detroit/W25



From Superior Viaduct/W25





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« Reply #4951 on: May 09, 2017, 05:06:08 PM »
Something may be brewing in the block just east of the Urban Community School on Lorain Avenue. On this week's Planning Commission agenda is the following:

Resolution No. 204-17(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack): Declaring the intent to vacate a portion of Lorain Court and West 48th Place.

The vacating of a street is often an indicator of land assembly for a real estate development. The proximity of the Urban Community School suggests this request could be related to the school. However, there are a number of recent property acquisitions in that block by a company called RVE Investments LLC that was incorporated in June 2016. It acquired several properties in the fall of 2016:

RVE INVESTMENTS LLC
02020 W 47 ST
$127,500
16-SEP-16

RVE INVESTMENTS LLC   
02050 W 47 ST
$96,000
18-NOV-16

RVE INVESTMENTS LLC
02046 W 47 ST
$65,000
21-NOV-16

RVE is likely someone's initials, but it doesn't a ring bell for me. The company was incorporated by a small-time Lakewood attorney named Michael Graham who also is the statutory agent for L.A.N.D. Studio and Oberlin Center for the Arts.

In the rest of that block, a few parcels are owned by Urban Community School (for the parking lot on West 48th), plus a few remaining private homes on West 47th. But perhaps half of that block is owned by PM Foundation Inc. which also owns the used car lot on Lorain. It owns contiguous parcels on Lorain and extending several parcels southward on both West 47th and 48th, then scattered parcels as far south as Turn Ave. next to the NS & RTA tracks.

So if RVE intends to assemble this block for whatever intents and purposes it may have, it's still got a long way to go...

W48thPl-LorainCt by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr
This is in fact an expansion by UCS and partners.  They're building a facility for Urban Squash as well as some general space and I believe a Early Childhood center, which may be operated by another partner. 

Follow-up on the above posts....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/05112017/index.php

Case 17-027
Lorain Avenue Historic District
Urban Squash Cleveland 4701 Lorain Avenue
New Construction
Ward 3
McCormack
Christine Raymond
Kaczmar Architects
Thomas Gill
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« Reply #4952 on: May 11, 2017, 11:24:27 AM »
Interesting. PD reporter Michelle Jarboe tweeted news about the above project. Ohio City CDC's director responded with this tidbit below...

Tom McNair‏ @tsmcnair  11m11 minutes ago

 Most college squash scholarships go unclaimed. All of the top 100 schools offer squash. Think about that for a second @mjarboe 😉
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« Reply #4953 on: May 13, 2017, 11:46:48 AM »
does anyone know the scope of work being done at Lutheran hospital right now? There's a bunch of guys / machinery pulling up the sidewalk at the 28th / Franklin intersection. Those sidewalks were not in particularly bad shape but it would be great if that entrance and goofy roundabout was somehow reconfigured to be more pedestrian friendly...

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« Reply #4954 on: May 13, 2017, 12:54:11 PM »
Imagine if Franklin Circle actually became a circle again....

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« Reply #4955 on: May 15, 2017, 08:08:12 AM »
does anyone know the scope of work being done at Lutheran hospital right now? There's a bunch of guys / machinery pulling up the sidewalk at the 28th / Franklin intersection. Those sidewalks were not in particularly bad shape but it would be great if that entrance and goofy roundabout was somehow reconfigured to be more pedestrian friendly...

If the only work you saw was pertaining to the sidewalk, it could just be Dominion working on the gas lines. They've been replacing them all over the West Side and I know Franklin was happening right now along with my street.

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« Reply #4956 on: May 15, 2017, 08:24:42 AM »
I haven't popped into this thread in a while and just saw the renderings for that new hotel... that's pretty awesome!

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« Reply #4957 on: May 16, 2017, 05:23:54 PM »
What's happening here?

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2017/05192017/index.php

Agenda for May 19, 2017

Ordinance No. xxx-17(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack): Authorizing the Directors of the Department of Community Development and the Department of Public Works to transfer the jurisdiction of City-owned property at the West Side Market known as the Hicks Lot, located between West 24th Place and West 24th Street and between Market Avenue and Bridge Avenue, from the Department of Community Development to the Department of Public Works.
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« Reply #4958 on: May 16, 2017, 07:22:13 PM »
Maybe it's so they can finally start charging for parking.
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« Reply #4960 on: May 20, 2017, 07:37:00 PM »
And to go along with Dumbledore's great photo set above, here's another aerial shot of the nameless W25th/Detroit project from today:


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« Reply #4961 on: May 20, 2017, 08:30:25 PM »
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