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« Reply #980 on: February 03, 2017, 11:35:31 AM »
Ugh. Not only is this a missed opportunity (to do on-street cycle tracks), it seems to be worsening the existing streetscape by removing trees and shrinking the medians. Seeing how much more extensive the project is (shifting the median around a few feet here and there, redoing the curbs, removing etc), it's even more incomprehensible now. The medians are already landscaped nicely with plantings and granite pavers. Why does the city want to spend $600k on this? How does this pass any reasonable cost-benefit analysis? It won't be successful as a bike facility. It removes nearly 30 "mature-ish" trees. And it will neither increase nor decrease traffic capacity (seems like the travel and turn lanes have not changed substantively)... so who actually benefits from this expensive project? $600k of streetscape improvements could be much better spent on any number of potential street improvements around the city.

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« Reply #981 on: February 03, 2017, 02:03:20 PM »
Ugh. Not only is this a missed opportunity (to do on-street cycle tracks), it seems to be worsening the existing streetscape by removing trees and shrinking the medians. Seeing how much more extensive the project is (shifting the median around a few feet here and there, redoing the curbs, removing etc), it's even more incomprehensible now. The medians are already landscaped nicely with plantings and granite pavers. Why does the city want to spend $600k on this? How does this pass any reasonable cost-benefit analysis? It won't be successful as a bike facility. It removes nearly 30 "mature-ish" trees. And it will neither increase nor decrease traffic capacity (seems like the travel and turn lanes have not changed substantively)... so who actually benefits from this expensive project? $600k of streetscape improvements could be much better spent on any number of potential street improvements around the city.

The Mayor needs to bump up his resume and urbanist cred among the Washington crowd. Only this.

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« Reply #982 on: February 03, 2017, 05:36:01 PM »
To be fair the trees they cut down weren't all that mature.  Rather stunted I would say.  Yes they were bigger than new plantings, but not a lot.  They do seem to have a lot of new trees in typical tree grates in the plan, but again that's a sidewalk design.  We should've gotten something like this https://goo.gl/maps/hfGxb9tzW992 or this https://goo.gl/maps/NUwJ6AWCo5B2

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« Reply #984 on: March 08, 2017, 12:11:32 AM »
Bike trail will connect key parts of a major Greater Cincinnati park

A key piece of a bike trail that will better connect Northern Kentucky is near completion, according to a regional cycling group.

The Ludlow Connector Trail is a shared-use path that will connect the eastern and western parts of Devou Park as well as provide pedestrian and cyclist access to the large park from Ludlow, which only has access to Devou Park by car today. It is expected to be finished by this spring.

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« Reply #985 on: March 14, 2017, 10:54:46 AM »
Cincinnati will be repaving 112 lane-miles of streets this year. Our city's Bike Plan called for bike lanes to be added as streets are repaved. Unfortunately, due to our stubborn mayor who dislikes on-street bike lanes, the plan isn't being implemented and this opportunity is being squandered. The Cranley years will go down as "the lost years" when it comes to our city's bike infrastructure... nearly 500 lane-miles repaved during his first term and not a single new bike lane.
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« Reply #986 on: March 14, 2017, 01:28:38 PM »
Cincinnati will be repaving 112 lane-miles of streets this year. Our city's Bike Plan called for bike lanes to be added as streets are repaved. Unfortunately, due to our stubborn mayor who dislikes on-street bike lanes, the plan isn't being implemented and this opportunity is being squandered. The Cranley years will go down as "the lost years" when it comes to our city's bike infrastructure... nearly 500 lane-miles repaved during his first term and not a single new bike lane.
Weren't Delta and Riverside bike lanes added under Cranley? Or did those get done under Mallory?

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« Reply #987 on: March 14, 2017, 01:38:40 PM »
Some stuff that was cued up under Mallory happened during the first months Cranley was in office. 

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« Reply #988 on: March 14, 2017, 02:33:28 PM »
Right, I think the in-progress stuff still happened, but I think there was essentially a mandate handed down of, "don't include bike lanes going forward." What makes matters worse is that the city borrowed money to implement a Capital Acceleration Plan in order to repave even more streets during the Cranley administration.
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« Reply #989 on: March 14, 2017, 02:45:23 PM »
But where are those streets?  Aside from Woolper, I haven't seen a single rebuilt street, anywhere.  And we're three years into Cranley's reign of terror and there has been precious little progress on the West MLK project. 

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« Reply #990 on: March 14, 2017, 07:01:21 PM »
Kellogg got repaved between Wilmer and Salem.  Spring Grove south of Hopple Street is in progress, very slow progress, mostly sidewalk work still, including the bumpouts that seem designed specifically to block bike lane construction.  Spring Grove and the Dooley Bypass in Northside were also finally done (they were awful), and that was a big miss because the Mill Creek Trail is so out of the way and discontinuous, especially with such limited access.  Same for Elmore and Colerain that were two-wayed.  Central Parkway north of Marshall is a huge miss, and it's not like Marshall itself couldn't also have lines.  Herschel near Kilgour School was repaved, as was Linwood, with no love.  Marburg and Markbreit in Oakley had potential.  Same with Lincoln Avenue in Walnut Hills, since MLK is a total F**k-up.  Piedmont Avenue through the hospital would've been good, especially since they've been restricting parking on it.  Tennessee Avenue was a miss.  Much of Ludlow through the Clifton business district is on the docket, but that's a tough one.  Ezzard Charles is also on the service request website, though not the brochure, same with Rhode Island. 

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« Reply #991 on: March 14, 2017, 09:04:28 PM »
Most of the streets that got repaved in Northside were not part of the Capital Acceleration Plan. They were part of the I-75 Mill Creek Expressway project. Since the highway ramps to/from Northside got removed, it no longer made sense to keep those as one-way funnels, so they could be returned to two-way traffic. It's actually a bit annoying the way they striped these roads. Instead of just doing a standard 4 lane road with 2 lanes each way, they added a bunch of lane shifts so that they could have left turn lanes at key intersections. Traffic engineers love dedicated left turn lanes.

I had the same feeling as you about the Spring Grove Avenue work. It does seem like they intentionally added those sidewalk bump-outs in a way that would prevent the bike lanes from ever being extended up to Northside. Yet another squandered opportunity.
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« Reply #992 on: March 14, 2017, 09:18:01 PM »
I barely noticed the bumpouts.  The Spring Grove lanes have never been contiguous nor are they regularly cleaned. They end down by JD's Honky Tonk and then I think start up once again south of the viaduct.  I can't remember.  I bike there fairly often because it's flat and there is virtually no traffic on Spring Grove at night or on the weekends.  I bike down Spring Grove to Dalton then across Mehring then out Riverside then up Delta then back to my house on WM H Taft for a pretty relaxed 20-mile ride.  If I have two hours before I have to be somewhere I do that ride because I know it takes around 80-90 minutes.  If I have less time I cut back at Collins then Taft. 

The Ludlow Ave. hill has had bad pavement for a long time.  I don't notice it on my heavier bike but my road bike bounces all over the place in the right lane and I'm touching the brakes the whole way down.  I'm often tempted to ride right on the double yellow just to get off the rough pavement but with the police station right there I've never done it. 

I don't believe the Sycamore Hill has been repaved in at least 20 years.  It still has an invisible but mean bump in it right at Milton St. that has probably sent at least one hill-bombing biker over their handlebars. 

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« Reply #993 on: March 20, 2017, 02:59:00 PM »
​Park + Vine owner gets new gig



The former owner of Over-the-Rhine retailer Park + Vine has a new job at a Greater Cincinnati environmental group.

Danny Korman will advocate for bicycling as trails ambassador for Green Umbrella, whose mission is to coordinate environmental and sustainability collaboration among 200 members including nonprofits, businesses, educational institutions and governments.

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« Reply #994 on: April 05, 2017, 11:37:17 PM »
Bike trail in the works for this Cincinnati park



The Cincinnati Board of Park Commissioners and the Cincinnati Off-Road Alliance are crafting a plan to build an off-road, multi-use mountain bike trail in Mount Airy Forest.

The groups will discuss the plan at a public meeting at 6:30 p.m. April 19 at McKie Recreation Center, 1655 Chase Ave.

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« Reply #995 on: April 06, 2017, 11:39:38 AM »
^That plan is 10 years old.  I don't know why the hell it has taken so long to happen. 

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« Reply #996 on: April 06, 2017, 12:49:16 PM »
^That plan is 10 years old.  I don't know why the hell it has taken so long to happen. 

Because the park board has been staunchly opposed to any MTB trails for ideological as opposed to technical reasons. 

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« Reply #997 on: April 06, 2017, 12:59:00 PM »
Nobody hikes in the sliver of land between West Fork and I-74.  The trails were proposed for that area and the McFarldand Woods side over the park, which gets fair less use than the Colerain Ave. side. 

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« Reply #998 on: April 06, 2017, 02:01:51 PM »
^That plan is 10 years old.  I don't know why the hell it has taken so long to happen. 

Because the park board has been staunchly opposed to any MTB trails for ideological as opposed to technical reasons. 

A lot of other user groups have been staunchly opposed in the past and likely still are.

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« Reply #999 on: April 06, 2017, 03:49:02 PM »
Nobody hikes in the sliver of land between West Fork and I-74.  The trails were proposed for that area and the McFarldand Woods side over the park, which gets fair less use than the Colerain Ave. side.

I just did on Sunday. It's surprisingly peaceful in places.

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« Reply #1000 on: April 06, 2017, 03:56:45 PM »
I last hiked it about five years ago in the winter and the trails were not well-maintained.  I remember that hike because I got a call from some guy I went to college with who told me he had just joined the French Foreign Legion and was shipping out the next week.  I haven't heard from him since. 

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« Reply #1001 on: April 07, 2017, 09:44:40 AM »
I last hiked it about five years ago in the winter and the trails were not well-maintained.  I remember that hike because I got a call from some guy I went to college with who told me he had just joined the French Foreign Legion and was shipping out the next week.  I haven't heard from him since. 

This would explain the radio silence-

"The legion has 6,800 men of 150 nationalities, from Afghans and Chinese to Romanians and Britons. Its rules are strict: new recruits must give up their identity and start a new life under a fake name, but later they can revert to their real identity.

For the first five years, they must live in dormitories in barracks. They are not allowed a mobile phone or a bank account and they cannot drive a car. The training regime is notoriously tough but applications are still high: of the roughly 8,000 men who apply each year, 1,000 are accepted.

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« Reply #1002 on: April 07, 2017, 10:41:20 AM »
Damn.  I didn't really know what the French Foreign Legion was. 

I did some trail running in the regular part of Mt. Airy last fall.  The first time I went there...there was a trail running event.  So I by total chance did my first run in months on a trail that had hardcore runners on it.  Another time I unknowingly ran into a section of the park that was closed for hunting. 

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« Reply #1003 on: April 07, 2017, 10:54:05 AM »
^I was deep in a trail in Alms Park I think it was with my girlfriend when I saw a sign about Active Hunting, it was right before I dropped off onto the residential road west of the park into Columbia Tusculum and had to turn around.  It really annoyed me because we had walked so far already and had to go all the way back around and it was kind of a cold, cloudy day.  To warm up then we got Starbucks which I hardly ever drink and I got the large regular coffee and chugged it but since I was so thirsty/dehydrated I started to have a weird anxiety attack that lasted about 2 hours
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« Reply #1004 on: April 07, 2017, 10:59:06 AM »
I always found patronizing Hamilton County parks vastly different than say, a Columbus-area MetroPark or a Cincinnati city park.

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« Reply #1005 on: April 07, 2017, 11:17:04 AM »
^I was deep in a trail in Alms Park I think it was with my girlfriend

In 2010 when I was writing my book I walked the old interurban ROW through Laboiteaux Woods (yes, I had to look up how to spell that), which is just about the most obscure spot in our most obscure city park.  I walked down into a gully to take a photo of an old bridge abutment when I heard a rustle in the bushes.  Some dude and his woman were definitely looking for a place to do it.  The problem was there was only one way out of the pit I was in and it meant having to climb up a gravely slope and walk right by them.  Which I did.  So these people imagined they were hundreds of feet from anyone else when some guy WITH A CAMERA comes climbing out of a pit where there was no obvious photography subject.  It was pretty damn awkward. 

In other mountain biking news, I think it was on that walk when I walked (or climbed, rather) some of the steep slopes Duke maintains along the high tension wires that run from its coal plant in Lawrenceburg to General Electric.  It creates a mowed gash across Mt. Airy Forest and Laboiteaux Woods.  I told the guy who runs Spun that we should start an alleycat-type mountain bike race following those high tension wires.  His eyes lit up but nothing happened.  It's like sitting around coming up with dumb band names. 




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« Reply #1006 on: April 07, 2017, 12:56:37 PM »
^Haha, that would be awkward for certain, that must have scared the bejeezus out of em.  I live close by and have my own apartment so that wasn't the intention of the walk, but I imagine teenagers in Mt. Lookout and other people use these heavily forested urban parks for many things.  I can't tell you how many times I've walked right into teenage weed smoking session on trails in the Cincy area parks, honestly it happens more times than it doesn't.

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« Reply #1007 on: April 07, 2017, 01:08:03 PM »
^Haha, that would be awkward for certain, that must have scared the bejeezus out of em.  I live close by and have my own apartment so that wasn't the intention of the walk, but I imagine teenagers in Mt. Lookout and other people use these heavily forested urban parks for many things.  I can't tell you how many times I've walked right into teenage weed smoking session on trails in the Cincy area parks, honestly it happens more times than it doesn't.

All fights at my high school were carried out 1/2 mile away at Caldwell Park:
http://www.cincinnatiparks.com/central/caldwell-preserve/

I did throw one unanswered punch in the gym during a dance (specifically, during a "mixer") but otherwise people had enough sense to take it completely off school grounds. 


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« Reply #1008 on: April 07, 2017, 04:52:26 PM »
Laure Quinliven's campaign manager can't ride a bike:

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« Reply #1009 on: April 07, 2017, 04:58:55 PM »
It would be easier if his back tire had air.
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« Reply #1010 on: May 23, 2017, 12:19:30 AM »
Another bicyclist killed on 52 by a driver under the influence of heroin:
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/anderson-township/one-dead-after-car-collides-with-bicyclist-in-anderson-township

Yes, the exact same scenario and on the exact same road as last year's fatality. 

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« Reply #1011 on: May 23, 2017, 03:20:42 PM »
The man killed was William Rust, owner of Candle Lab OTR on Vine Street.

It's unbelievable that despite these incidents, the city continues to ignore the adopted Bicycle Master Plan and continues to tell cyclists that they should ride in the street.
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« Reply #1012 on: May 23, 2017, 03:26:06 PM »
Maybe this will be a catalyst?
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« Reply #1013 on: May 23, 2017, 03:28:53 PM »
Cranley doesn't believe in on-street bike lanes or cycle tracks (protected bike lanes) because he does not believe that car drivers should be inconvenienced by having street space taken away from them. Nothing is going to change until he is out of office.
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« Reply #1014 on: May 23, 2017, 03:36:45 PM »
This incident wasn't in the city.  It's Anderson Township on a highway under the authority of ODOT.  Of course that doesn't make it ok, or nobody's problem. 

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