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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #175 on: July 28, 2008, 09:41:08 PM »
^I agree.  Progressive's huge "campus" would look awfully nice in a tower downtown.  We've all heard about Pete's split w/ Mike White, but that's not an excuse enough... If Peter B. wanted Prog downtown, ... I guess,  in additoning to lecturing/puting down then given a sh!tload to alma mater Princeton, Peter's "giving back" is buying the Indians' naming rights to the former Jake ... which conveniently promotes his Mayfield mega corp (btw, notice how Progressive's adds tout its 'home' Mayfield and say nothing about Cleveland/Greater Cleveland?)

... anyway enough about him.  The Marons and Zaremba, though much little-ler guys that Peter, are rolling the dice on projects that ARE helping the city build its density, livability, and attractiveness.  And perhaps MOST importantly, Uptown represents developers partnering on a great project and not bickering, which, unfortunately, is more the norm in this town... So let's promote these guys, and others like them, like Price, Corna, Wolstein, Stark (we hope) and others... and to hell w/ a uber-rich, do-nothing/drag-on-the-town whiners like PBL.
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« Reply #176 on: July 28, 2008, 09:48:35 PM »
"and to hell w/ a uber-rich, do-nothing whiners like PBL."

I disagree - that attitude is precisely how Rockefeller got chased out of town - and Cleveland is hardly a better city for that. And I'm not sure what part of "the decision to not build a HQ tower in downtown Cleveland was a business decision by Progressive's Board of Directors when Al Lerner was chairman." you people refuse to believe. That said, Peter B. Lewis' contributions to Greater Cleveland:

$24 million to the Weatherhead School of Management of Case Western Reserve University for the new Lewis Campus, to be designed by Frank Gehry.

$3 million to Oberlin College for the design and construction of "an environmentally perfect building" for the Adam Joseph Lewis Center for Environmental Studies (Lewis family gift).

$1 million contribution to the Hopewell Inn, a non-profit institution in Cleveland, Ohio, that helps return mentally challenged people to independent living.

$100,000 to the Cleveland Institute of Art for acquisition of a Philip Johnson sculpture.

$750,000 matching challenge grant to WCPN, Cleveland Public Radio, to implement a new strategic plan and improve local news programming.

$1 million to the Cleveland State University basketball program.

Major support of the Cleveland Center for Contemporary Art for many years.
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Not that this thread should go further off-topic, but I'm going to guess that none of us have made those kinds of contributions to ANY Cleveland institution.
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« Reply #177 on: July 28, 2008, 10:19:35 PM »
"you people"... er, thanks Ross... but your point being?

^Believe me, if I had the cash, I would.  None of us here does, so your comment’s a non sequitir .. My point remains the same... While, of course, there are a number of things PBL has done, compared to what he could do, w/ all his $ billions (as in one of the richest people in America), what he has done, comparatively, is piddling; and whether or not the late Al Lerner and the board did, PBL has the power to undo.  You cannot convince me w/ his power, prestige, gravitas, what-have you, that he’s powerless to do so   ... And perhaps I'd be less vocal if it wasn't for the nasty lecturing he gave leaders (UCI, CWRU’s long-gone president Hundert, and others) a couple years ago – much of it true, but then, there’s an adage that goes: ‘Put your $ where you mouth is…”  And yet, these smaller developers are doing more concrete things in the city promoting the type of development/partnership PBL has constantly hectored Clevelanders about (in not doing). 
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« Reply #178 on: August 03, 2008, 02:24:29 PM »
Mayday, thanks again for being a voice of reason
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #179 on: August 04, 2008, 09:59:20 AM »
I agree with Clevlndr. Even though PBL has donated money for many things, he has actually done 2 things which hurt Cleveland instead of helping the city:

1. Progressive's headquarters is located on the edge of the county along I-271 in a wealthy little village. It's this kind of backwards thinking that hurts our great city. If the region's biggest employer and the ever-so-amazing-PBL are going to build a headquarters in the suburbs, then it makes it seem like an ethical/good idea/smart thing to do, to leave Cleveland and re-locate to suburbs, cuz if PBL did it, then damn, it must be the way to go.

2. The way PBL has dissed University Circle is like bad publicity for our shining cultural center. Instead of saying, "I'm a super billionaire, and I will take the lead and show you how it's done!" he instead said, "You guys suck, I'm not helping!" Again - backwards thinking. He has a great collection of art that is apparently world renowned and it's hiding in Mayfield Village off of Alpha Beta drive inside of one of the 50 glass buildings he built. Even I, the local art enthusiast has yet to see or find these works, and at that rate, what does that say about the region? If a local art enthusiast can't see or find 'em, who can? Too bad they're hidden away, because it'd be another nice draw to the area, even if it's gotta be in Mayfield Village. What effect would UC have had if these works were more accessible in say, a real culturally rich area (e.g. University Circle). And no, I wouldn't compare PBL to Rockefeller - after all, PBL will probably want to be buried in a cemetery in Willoughby Hills because Lakeview Cemtery is hardly unique.
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« Reply #180 on: August 04, 2008, 10:10:53 AM »
the art collection exists to keep his ex-wife busy....but then again, this has so much to do with UARD....

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« Reply #181 on: August 25, 2008, 03:27:29 PM »
FYI from the Case Daily:

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A community briefing about Uptown will take place from 7-9 p.m., August 26 at the Cleveland Botanical Garden,  11030 East Blvd. The Uptown district is a $200 million investment by Case Western Reserve University, MRN/Zaremba development partnership, Museum of Contemporary Art (MOCA) Cleveland, The Cleveland Institute of Art and University Circle Inc. at the intersections of Euclid and Mayfield avenues and Ford Road.

Register online to attend the briefing. (http://www.uptowncleveland.com/contact/community-briefing.php)
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« Reply #182 on: August 25, 2008, 03:30:59 PM »
Also, I don't know if this has been posted yet, but UPTOWN now has a website--not too shabby!

http://www.uptowncleveland.com/retail-opportunities/
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« Reply #183 on: August 25, 2008, 04:17:22 PM »
Sweeeeeeeet.  Those ugly commuter lots are finally kicking the bucket!!!!!!

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« Reply #184 on: August 26, 2008, 12:43:15 PM »
Anyone coming to the public meeting tonight? 
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« Reply #185 on: August 26, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »
I may go.

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« Reply #186 on: August 26, 2008, 01:52:53 PM »
I'll be there.

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« Reply #187 on: August 26, 2008, 03:06:40 PM »
I can't go now...please fill us in!
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« Reply #188 on: August 26, 2008, 08:13:45 PM »
So...what's the report.  Who went??

EDIT: Sorry, I'm a little premature.  I noticed the event let out about  15 minutes ago...
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« Reply #189 on: August 26, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »
Actually the public meeting let out shortly after 8pm, even though it was originally scheduled for two hours.  Lara Kalafatis, VP of University Relations mentioned something about how everyone wanted to go listen to Hilary's speech...

Anyway, good meeting - at least three UO'ers there, and one who spoke! (Very coherently, by the way)  The presentation was run by Ari Maron who talked a bit about the various iterations of the project & how it has worked through the public process.  I liked how they presented this - showing the original plans, talking about the community concerns (basically it was too big in a number of ways) and how they came to the final plans today.

Nothing that we didn't know, really - just more details.  There will be four 6-7 story buildings on the Beach.  For those of you unfamiliar with that term, it's the giant surface/gravel lot on the northern end of Euclid between Ford & East 115th.  Behind it will be a surface parking lot.  Two confirmedish tenants are the Barnes & Nobles and a drugstore - both towards the East 115 end.  Those condos will be the more expensive, running from 250K to 1M. 

Nothing new about MOCA, other than that they're still working on it and a plaza/public space behind the building that will be in front of a new office building.  The Triangle apartment towers are staying as is, but being updated & with increased 'retail skirts' as Maron phrased it.  The south side of Euclid is going to be what they call the 'J' building - it's the silver one from the renderings and full of 700 sq. ft apartments & condos, which I think are going to be very neat.  Behind that building & in between the Triangle skirts is going to be an urban alley ala East 4th - pedestrian only, public space, bars, restaurants, retail.  The first floor of the J building will be those uses with entrances both out on Euclid & on the alley - and completely see through.

No real discussion of the RTA moving, future phases, the office building.  The public feedback was what you'd expect - with the exception of UO representing, it was concerns about affordability, parking, hostile takeovers of the neighborhood, and one gentleman who just could understand why someone would want to buy these at the prices & without knowing what is going to be around you.  Well handled by the speakers - I was impressed by both the Marons.

Overall, great stuff - I'm stoked and excited.  Impressed by what they are trying to do.  It's certainly unlike anything we have in Cleveland, and to be honest it feels very European - with a little more work I think it has the possibility to be transformative.  I think the key is making it warm, unique, and avoiding that new, corporate smell. 


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« Reply #190 on: August 27, 2008, 01:05:24 AM »
The best news to me was that the alley along the back of the "J" Building is going to be somewhat reworked, and should end up looking a little more enlivened and less sterile.

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« Reply #192 on: August 28, 2008, 07:00:26 PM »
they're about to get a lot more traffic on that site!

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« Reply #193 on: August 28, 2008, 07:40:19 PM »
Hey, what is the timeline for the residential aspect?  I did a little searching on this thread, and the website, but could not find it.
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« Reply #194 on: August 28, 2008, 11:36:38 PM »
Actually the public meeting let out shortly after 8pm, even though it was originally scheduled for two hours.  Lara Kalafatis, VP of University Relations mentioned something about how everyone wanted to go listen to Hilary's speech...

Anyway, good meeting - at least three UO'ers there, and one who spoke! (Very coherently, by the way)  The presentation was run by Ari Maron who talked a bit about the various iterations of the project & how it has worked through the public process.  I liked how they presented this - showing the original plans, talking about the community concerns (basically it was too big in a number of ways) and how they came to the final plans today.

Nothing that we didn't know, really - just more details.  There will be four 6-7 story buildings on the Beach.  For those of you unfamiliar with that term, it's the giant surface/gravel lot on the northern end of Euclid between Ford & East 115th.  Behind it will be a surface parking lot.  Two confirmedish tenants are the Barnes & Nobles and a drugstore - both towards the East 115 end.  Those condos will be the more expensive, running from 250K to 1M. 

Nothing new about MOCA, other than that they're still working on it and a plaza/public space behind the building that will be in front of a new office building.  The Triangle apartment towers are staying as is, but being updated & with increased 'retail skirts' as Maron phrased it.  The south side of Euclid is going to be what they call the 'J' building - it's the silver one from the renderings and full of 700 sq. ft apartments & condos, which I think are going to be very neat.  Behind that building & in between the Triangle skirts is going to be an urban alley ala East 4th - pedestrian only, public space, bars, restaurants, retail.  The first floor of the J building will be those uses with entrances both out on Euclid & on the alley - and completely see through.

No real discussion of the RTA moving, future phases, the office building.  The public feedback was what you'd expect - with the exception of UO representing, it was concerns about affordability, parking, hostile takeovers of the neighborhood, and one gentleman who just could understand why someone would want to buy these at the prices & without knowing what is going to be around you.  Well handled by the speakers - I was impressed by both the Marons.

Overall, great stuff - I'm stoked and excited.  Impressed by what they are trying to do.  It's certainly unlike anything we have in Cleveland, and to be honest it feels very European - with a little more work I think it has the possibility to be transformative.  I think the key is making it warm, unique, and avoiding that new, corporate smell. 

Very good analysis, I think this will be transormative... Any talk about how the existing structures are Univ. East and, especially, the old Commodore hotel will mesh with the Beach and Triangle props?  And what is planned for unit-types in the Commodore?

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« Reply #195 on: August 29, 2008, 09:31:41 AM »
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Very good analysis, I think this will be transormative... Any talk about how the existing structures are Univ. East and, especially, the old Commodore hotel will mesh with the Beach and Triangle props?  And what is planned for unit-types in the Commodore?

No, there wasn't much talk about that, the focus of the meeting was mostly about the newer build - they really tried to stay on topic & get out quickly so that everyone could get home to watch/listen to Hilary.

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« Reply #196 on: August 29, 2008, 10:03:07 AM »
^Okay, I'm really glad their moving forward with grand plans the area deserves... It's just that the Commodore, given it's huge size and ample street-level retail  space, is definitely a player and, right now, if I'm not mistaken, it's a seniors building.  I'm sure we'll hear more about this as building begins and plans progress.

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« Reply #197 on: August 29, 2008, 10:22:07 AM »
^UCI has been working on a plan to renovate the building for a few years now. I don't know what the hold up is. They are not envisioning turning the place into luxury condos or anything like that like. They envision it as a place where grad students could live. Currently, it is not just a senior complex.

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« Reply #198 on: October 06, 2008, 01:10:17 PM »
I received this email today:
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Dear Michael,

Pre-sales of our exciting Uptown condominiums are well under way and our sales center is now open every day from 12-5 or any time by appointment.  Please come out and see us or call to set up an appointment for a one-on-one briefing.
 
We have 13 exciting floor plans to choose from that range from 950 - 2155 square feet and 1-3 bedroom options.  By choosing to commit and purchase your condo early during our pre-construction sales, you will be afforded the best choice of floor plan and floor level orientation.  Choose city or campus views!  In many instances, only one floor plan will be offered per building as the first two buildings get under way, so it will be very important to view your early choices and options.
 
Come join us Uptown, Cleveland's newest and most exciting pedestrian friendly neighborhood, nestled among one of the nation's most cultural, educational and world-class medical institutions regions.  Add to all of this an exciting array of retail, restaurant and entertainment venues to look forward to and you'll be glad you're calling Uptown home.  Besides all of the above mentioned amenities in your new neighborhood, you will be afforded some of the most incredible financial incentives ever:

1.  15-year property tax abatement
2.  Using one of our key lenders, enjoy 1.5% below market  rate lending rates on a fixed-rate mortgage
3.  If you work for one of the major institutions or non-profit organizations in the Greater Circle area, you will realize an additional $5,000-$15,000 in savings.
4. The first 12 committed buyers will receive an early bird 5% discount


Hurry and contact us for more details and to see just how attractive and affordable living Uptown is!

Sincerely,
 
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #199 on: October 06, 2008, 01:17:24 PM »
You looking to buy one?

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« Reply #200 on: October 06, 2008, 02:21:15 PM »
You looking to buy one?

I am.   Either there or Downtown.  But I am still more than a year away due to my military obligation that I leave for here soon.

FYI There are already signs up around the area now.  Two major ones at least I've seen promoting the future expansion.
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« Reply #201 on: October 06, 2008, 06:06:44 PM »
^But is it "World Class Signage"?   :lol:

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« Reply #202 on: October 06, 2008, 07:43:00 PM »
As I've said before - god love the people at Zaremba and all the great stuff they're doing, but I think they definitely learned their lesson on that! :lol:

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« Reply #203 on: October 07, 2008, 07:35:36 AM »
You looking to buy one?

I am.   Either there or Downtown.  But I am still more than a year away due to my military obligation that I leave for here soon.

FYI There are already signs up around the area now.  Two major ones at least I've seen promoting the future expansion.

Keep us updated! 

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« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2008, 11:19:12 AM »
That makes at least TWO Urban Ohioans who are seriously considering Uptown... It's hard to argue with the allure of this location and that incentive package!

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« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2008, 11:29:31 AM »
Has this project "officially" broken ground? The verbiage on their website is written in present tense (like it is near opening/open) but I know that is not the case.

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« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2008, 02:19:45 PM »
Well, the project is not only nearing groundbreaking, but even in this environment, the developers are having very VERY good discussions with financers.  If you're interested, the 5% offer is for a limited time only.  I'd go check out the sale center (even takes some pictures and post them on UO!!!!)

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« Reply #207 on: October 08, 2008, 09:22:45 AM »
Does anyone know the price points for the condos?  I haven't seen them myself but have heard that they are extremely pricey.  I would think this would be a tought time to sell $400k+ condos.  Love the project concept, but am worried about the housing component.
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« Reply #208 on: October 08, 2008, 10:42:51 AM »
the development features a pretty diverse array of rentals and condos.  The condos have different price points and have (I believe) the attractive lease-own option that other projects around town have been promoting.  Someone with more knowledge please correct me if I'm wrong!

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« Reply #209 on: October 08, 2008, 10:44:28 AM »
I'd like to get into one of those rent to own officeDA condos.
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