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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #105 on: October 15, 2007, 02:02:36 PM »
I couldn't find any renderings on the website?  I wonder what they're talking about.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #106 on: October 15, 2007, 02:09:41 PM »
Oh, good. I thought it was just me.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #107 on: February 17, 2008, 10:34:11 AM »
"He and developer Nathan Zaremba plan to break ground for Uptown in mid-2009, after resolving thorny issues of parking and financing."

Financing will be a big hurdle, hope they can launch it.  Hopefully Zaremba's success downtown with Avenue District can buoy him during the current housing financing crunch... Also, all's been quiet from the Hessler Ct crowd.  Have they been satisfied by Uptown or waiting to pounce?

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« Reply #108 on: May 19, 2008, 08:59:02 AM »
Oh, I can petty much guarantee that ""The Developers" have let Office dA do what they do best.  Same for the other architect they selected (Stanley Saitowitz.)   
In fact...you ain't seen NOTHIN' yet.   Stay tuned ;)
www.officeda.com
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Wonder if Office da is getting the run around from the developers.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2008, 11:13:28 AM »
^Thank you- that is helping me deal with the MVRDV tension.  I'm looking very forward to the UARD reveal.
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2008, 11:49:04 AM »
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www.officeda.com
www.saitowitz.com

architectural firm websites are the most annoying websites in ever.  so much clunky flash front end, it takes ten minutes to find pictures of anything.  I mean really, is a 30 second soft fade really necessary on every link?!  usability damnit!   

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2008, 12:24:21 AM »
Any word on how the Triangle condo project planning is coming?  What about MOCA across the street or the Commodore hotel renovation?

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2008, 08:44:02 AM »
Zaremba is currently in the planning phase of the Triangle Project - they want to consult me on it since I've been a student at Case for so long, lol.  I think they're planning to break ground hopefully a year from now.

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« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2008, 10:33:30 AM »
^That's good.  We've gotten a ton of info about hospital expansion which, while well and good, I'm more concerned with residential, retail and (non-hospital) institutional development.  The approval of the 6-story Little Italy apt building is about the only residential news I've heard lately.  And if Zaremba is planning, I'd like to know a little more about it.  Like with Stark & Pesht, prolonged periods of nothing concrete can lead to unease -- and fortunately, details of Stark's direction are finally coming to light; let's see more from UCI, Case and Zaremba viz the Triangle.

If anyone has anything ...

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2008, 10:49:23 AM »
I don't know how much of this is set in stone, so don't shoot the messenger (or hold Zaremba to what I'm saying :)).....  They're planning for a bookstore, grocery store, and drugstore, among other things, and they are targeting 1 bedroom "Ikea-like" condo units where the monthly payments for mortgage, insurance, etc. would total approx. $900 so that they can compete with rental units for student business.

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« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2008, 11:10:07 AM »
Hey, thanks doctabroccoli... and no, I'm not up for big game "messenger" hunting...

... at least not these days.   :evil:

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2008, 12:05:31 PM »
You'll be seeing a lot information soon!  Stay tuned. 

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2008, 12:09:05 PM »
Strangebrew,

By "soon", do you mean in a week, a month, two months??

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« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2008, 12:24:41 PM »
Haha, we tend to have so little faith in that word "soon" around here.....

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2008, 02:43:48 PM »
^the post that lost its way!

^...Like with Stark & Pesht, prolonged periods of nothing concrete can lead to unease ...

I know it sucks, but sometimes these "quiet phases" are the ones in which the most progress is made... who has time for press releases and silly renderings when their nose is to the grindstone?!
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« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2008, 12:22:16 PM »

I know it sucks, but sometimes these "quiet phases" are the ones in which the most progress is made... who has time for press releases and silly renderings when their nose is to the grindstone?!

No question.  Sometimes we the public needs some signal (or UO insider, hehe) who gives us confidence, in fact, these behind-the-scene things are happening... Unfortunately, we're too used to the scenariio that when projects go quiet, they're dead.

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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2008, 05:31:43 AM »
Pics and PDF at the link.
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Long-awaited Uptown project will transform University Circle neighborhood

Posted by Michelle Jarboe July 21, 2008 23:21PM

Categories: Economic development, Impact, Real Estate News Impact, Real estate

Click on image to download PDF.A long-awaited wave of culture, homes, shopping and dining will start to flood the University Circle area next spring.

That's when Cleveland developers MRN Ltd. and Nathan Zaremba plan to break ground for hundreds of homes, perched atop stores and restaurants along Euclid Avenue, just east of Mayfield Road and Ford Drive.

Their buildings will sit at the center of the Uptown project, an investment of more than $200 million by developers, cultural institutions, Case Western Reserve University and advocacy group University Circle Inc.

More at
http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/_click_on_image_to.html




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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2008, 06:41:34 AM »
so excited i need 2 days to gather my thoughts!!!   :clap:
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2008, 06:59:32 AM »
if you want to get yourself really excited... compare that PDF to an image on google maps and look at just how much parking lot is about to disapear.
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2008, 07:07:38 AM »
Excellent news!!  This is one that I've been waiting for personally, as University Circle is so important to the region.  I love it!! 

I just hate that the paper, even in a news story that is so positive for the city, must throw in the usual quips at C-town.   

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/view02.jpg

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/view01.jpg

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/07/Uard.jpg
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2008, 07:12:45 AM »
Ridiculous...
"Uptown aims to showcase and build on University Circle's job growth and potential, a bright spot in a beleaguered city."
"Despite the ailing housing market and Greater Cleveland's economic turmoil, Uptown's developers and organizations are confident they'll attract residents, shoppers, diners, students and museum-goers to University Circle."

would it have been so hard just to have...

"Uptown aims to showcase and build on University Circle's job growth and potential."

"Uptown's developers and organizations are confident they'll attract residents, shoppers, diners, students and museum-goers to University Circle."
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Re: Cleveland: Uptown (UARD) in University Circle
« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2008, 07:21:03 AM »
Sounds transformative. :clap:  Zaremba is right that it is an incredible area to begin with.
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« Reply #127 on: July 22, 2008, 07:45:38 AM »
Books & Media booksellers lol.

Looks Great!!

Reminds me of The South Campus Gateway in Columbus across from The OSU.

Can not wait until this is complete. Then There will only be that gap in new development from 55th to apx. 79th to contend with along Euclid.

I do like how the PD put in the little factoid about 5 Billion in devlopment going on along Euclid. To keep the naysayers about the ECP quiet.
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« Reply #128 on: July 22, 2008, 08:06:26 AM »
Good news.  It's almost criminal how undeveloped University Circle is in terms of restaurants, bars, movie theaters and bookstores, and I'm thrilled about this.  Probably the most potential of any other large scale project in Cleveland excluding Euclid Corridor!

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« Reply #129 on: July 22, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »
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Reminds me of The South Campus Gateway in Columbus across from The OSU.

That's what I was thought for a second from the first rendering but what makes this different/better is that this has the potential-albeit based on some renderings, to attract tourists interested in architecture/urban planning--especially with MOCA and MCA anchoring this development (not to mention CMA and Co.) 

Take into account all of the cultural, medical, and educational institutions plus the Red Line and Healthline connections, Little Italy/Coventry adjacencies, and Rockefeller Park and we're ultimately left with this very unique, sustainable "city".   This will attract the attention of any interested in the built environment and how fitting that Cleveland is at the center of this again (Burnham, Van Sweringens, even the Gateway complex).

Oh, cleveland.com rejects weren't too bad actually except for one person who thinks that in order for this to be successful, it needs more parking... :roll: it's actually quite sad and disturbing...Maybe they were just trying to push our buttons but I don't doubt that there are some that actually think that...
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« Reply #130 on: July 22, 2008, 08:32:35 AM »
in the upper right image of the PDF, you can see the CIA expansion sneaking though...kinda neat.

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« Reply #131 on: July 22, 2008, 08:36:29 AM »
What does everyone think about the architecture? This is no Avenue District and it sure wasn't designed by Paul Volpe. (the links above show some additional images)
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« Reply #132 on: July 22, 2008, 08:39:47 AM »
What does everyone think about the architecture? This is no Avenue District and it sure wasn't designed by Paul Volpe. (the links above show some additional images)

Well, I like the building that is to the north of Euclid alot, not so much the one to the south.  It looks like a modernized commie-block with it's large flat grey surface with too few windows punched into it.  Of course, this is from only a couple of small rendering.  Can't wait to see more.

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« Reply #133 on: July 22, 2008, 08:44:00 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

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« Reply #134 on: July 22, 2008, 08:45:31 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

I just hope the alley doesn't detract from Euclid and Mayfield/Ford.

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« Reply #135 on: July 22, 2008, 08:48:30 AM »
The first floor of the southern building will be all glass. You can be walking on Euclid and see through the first floor retail/entertainment use and see right into the new alley.  Oh, and there will be an interior alley between this building (the "J" building as some are calling it) and the old triangle apartments. The developers are envisioning this alley as a sort of entertainment district.

I noticed that.  It's just one rendering, but I still think it looks like a harsh, uninviting space.  The glass ground floor is ok, just ok, and the upper level seems "Brutalist revival" and monolithic.  I don't like the way that it curves to define the alley space at all.  Not with that lack of human scale architectural detail.
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« Reply #136 on: July 22, 2008, 08:50:15 AM »
While it isn't officeDA's strongest effort, I have faith in them and Stanley Saitowitz/Natoma that it will come out better than it looks in the renderings.
The parking lot comments are ridiculous.
"When you stand at the corner of Euclid Avenue and East Ninth Street in Cleveland, you stand at one of the busiest corners in the world -- and in the heart of a shopping district known far and wide for its many fine shops."

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« Reply #137 on: July 22, 2008, 09:04:50 AM »
I. Am. So. Excited. Aaaaaaahahaha!!!

Sorry.

I think this neighborhood will seriously be incredibly transformative. Very, very cool.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the design. I think it's definitely different from what Cleveland has now, and in that way, it's good and unique to the area. But is it warm and embraceable? Hmm .. I don't know. But personally, I think I really like it. It's more up my modern architecture alley.

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« Reply #138 on: July 22, 2008, 09:08:53 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

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« Reply #139 on: July 22, 2008, 09:09:50 AM »
Zaremba said the condo/apartment thingies were going to be "ikea-like"

And that was supposed to be a good thing? Hmm. That comment alone makes me worry.

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