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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8880 on: May 09, 2018, 10:10:54 AM »
Now that HOU just made the WCF (insane game by CP3) theyíre predicting the Rockets have an 80% of making the Finals...really? Iíd say CLE in 5 or 6, maybe 7. Houston has no experience in the Finals. I saw somewhere that LBJ has 27% shooting in the last five minutes of close games in the Finals. LeBron and the Cavs have made a ton of consecutive finals, putting them in elite company. No surprise, but if the Cavs beat the Celtics, LeBron would be the only player to lead two teams to Conference Champion four-peats! Who knows, maybe the Rocketsí lack of experience there will lead to bad shooting/unpreparedness...

I'd much rather face Houston than GSW, but admittedly I haven't been following the West much at all this year.  The Rockets finished SEVEN games better than Golden State?

GS had lots of injuries/didnít care as much. They had a semi Cavs-y regular season. Still the best team in the NBA by a stretch (unfortunately).

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8881 on: May 09, 2018, 10:31:54 AM »
We need to hope that Houston can oveRachieve and not choke like they always do. Iím hoping Chris Paul will help with that.  Also hope the warriors are uncomfortable. They have had home court in every series dating back 4 years

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« Reply #8882 on: May 09, 2018, 10:38:07 AM »
We need to hope that Houston can oveRachieve and not choke like they always do. Iím hoping Chris Paul will help with that.  Also hope the warriors are uncomfortable. They have had home court in every series dating back 4 years

Although I obviously hope we win the championship, I don't believe we can beat either Houston or Golden State this year.  I think you're underestimating the Rockets.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8883 on: May 11, 2018, 01:50:52 PM »
Not really Cavs news... but still, kinda:

"Raptors fire Coach Dwayne Casey after franchise-best record, second sweep to Cavs"

via CBS Sports

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8884 on: May 11, 2018, 02:12:06 PM »
https://www.sbnation.com/2018/5/11/17345170/lebron-james-history-coach-fired-dwane-casey

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So how many coaches has James gotten fired? Maybe two, maybe five or six, maybe seven, maybe even 10 or 11. It depends on your point of view. (And, again: add two or even three more of his own with Brown, Blatt, and maybe even Paul Silas).

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8885 on: May 11, 2018, 02:56:07 PM »
Heís not only gotten coaches fired, heís wrecked franchises. Think about that. Entire companies heís ruined. The hawks were a 60+ win team a few years back, now they are a mess.  The bulls, the pacers were lucky oladipo grew this year to a new level.  He ruined the Celtics but the rebuilt quickly. The raptors will be doomed soon.  Itís crazy

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8886 on: May 11, 2018, 03:03:07 PM »
And the article mention the 3 straight drummings of the Gilbert Arenas led Wizards a life time ago. If you are a fan of an Eastern Conference team, you've had virtually no chance for a long time.

But who knows. The Celtics are still a good team so I wouldn't count them out.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8887 on: May 13, 2018, 04:37:04 PM »
oh geez already i cant take anymore of this. the cavs getting torched at halftime. not looking good at all. after that inspired final raptors game where everybody pitched in, we are back to this again. korver, jr, hill where are you? ugh.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8888 on: May 13, 2018, 05:29:17 PM »
Lebron game 1ís. Nothing new here. No reason to panic.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8889 on: May 14, 2018, 08:56:52 AM »
LeBron was -32 lol.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8890 on: May 14, 2018, 10:21:15 AM »
hideous.

glad i walked away from it at halftime.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8891 on: May 14, 2018, 05:06:33 PM »
espn this afternoon - iím not so sure, but lets hope that is justified:


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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8892 on: May 15, 2018, 11:21:06 PM »
Jordan Clarkson was a DNP-CD, Cedi Osman played two minutes, Rodney Hood was a -7 in 11 minutes and Dwyane Wade was at home tweeting about the game on his couch because the Cavs wanted to clear up playing time for those three guys.
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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8893 on: May 15, 2018, 11:56:21 PM »
D Wade didn't want to be here. He was checking Heat scores during Cavs games.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8894 on: May 16, 2018, 05:40:52 AM »
now imagine these celtics with kyrie and hayward

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« Reply #8895 on: May 16, 2018, 09:48:08 AM »
LeBron had 42-12-10 and they still got blown the **** out.

Jeff Green had 5 turnovers and was -17 in 28 minutes and went 2/5 shooting.  JR missed all 7 shots he took.  LeBron and Love had 64 points, the rest of the team had 30.

Celtics won the turnover battle (15-5), had more offensive rebounds (11-8), and made their free throws (17/20 vs. 10/17).  That's it.  Cavs shot a better % from the field, but the Celtics got off 12 more shots.  If you're going to get crappy Jeff Green, miss-em-all JR, and  a nearly-nonexistent George Hill you're gonna have a bad time.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8896 on: May 16, 2018, 09:48:38 AM »
now imagine these celtics with kyrie

Their ball movement might cease to exist?

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8897 on: May 16, 2018, 10:32:59 AM »
i still say the Celtics HAVE to win game 3 if they want to win this series.  Really a must win for both teams.  The Celtics are the future, no doubt.  I cannot stand their fans and will find myself rooting for the warriors in the future when they clash in the finals.  Honestly, speaking with my family who are in orthopedic medicine...Kyrie may never be the same....he may have ongoing issues the rest of his career.  So its easy to say if they have the 2016 Kyrie they would beat the warriors, but they may never have the 2016 Kyrie.  But Boston is building a beast even without him.

As far as the draft...i would trade #8 and Kevin Love and frankly whatever hell else Portland wanted and try to pull Lillard and/or Mccullom.  Portland cant go anywhere with those guys.  I think they are the type of guys Lebron needs around him...shooters who can create and are consistent.  Mccullom is a NEO guy and Love is an Oregon guy so everyone wins.  They can re stock their talent because they are never getting by any of those west teams with just two guards.

Next year needs to be about developing Cedi and Zizic, ive seen enough of Hood and Clarkson...not sure why they are getting minutes


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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8898 on: May 16, 2018, 11:31:15 AM »
^ Whatís the feeling in Cleveland about Lebronís chances of staying? I think heís all but gone at the end of this series...

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« Reply #8899 on: May 16, 2018, 11:47:59 AM »
Its interesting to me, because Lebron is never the guy that the media thinks they know and hence write about.  I honestly believe chasing rings is beneath him at this point....

Im not saying he will stay, but if he were to go to LA, he isnt chasing rings.  In fact, there isnt a team that can get past GSW in the next few years.  They are the greatest collection of talent the NBA has ever seen.  So the media keeps writing that he will chase rings...i think that is bunk.  I think Houston or Golden State are literally the only places he could go and potentially win a ring next year.

I think Lebron is telling the truth when he says family and impact off the court are important to him.  I think part of him wants to retire as a Cav as that is where his legacy was cemented with the win in 2016.  I wouldnt be surprised if he came out and said that more important to him that rings are to continue to transform the NBA with his style and also transform the cavs franchise into a consistently stable and strong franchise for the future.  Of course, its a double edge sword, because with lebron comes a ton of drama that makes a franchise really unstable.

All and all, i dont think this series will make a difference, because nobody is getting past GSW anyway.  So whether he loses in ECF or in Finals, we are faced with the discussion of him not having enough to win a title.  My gut thinks he will stay....young Lebron playing for St. V St. M will make him more happy and proud than anything at this point in his life.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8900 on: May 16, 2018, 02:21:57 PM »
now imagine these celtics with kyrie

Their ball movement might cease to exist?


ha yeah -- with kyrie and hayward healthy, and that is an if, they will get past gsw next year.

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« Reply #8901 on: May 16, 2018, 02:44:51 PM »
^That is certainly the series to expect next year and Boston probably has the best chance to get by GSW, if they can make it past Philly of course.

LeBron/Love/Kyrie essentially added no one in 2016 while the Warriors added the 2nd-best player on the planet.  They needed to find a way to add a Paul George (or someone of that caliber) to the big 3 to keep pace with Golden State.  They basically dumped Kyrie for some role/bench players.

The NBA won't be all that interesting until the big 4 in Golden State are broken up.  Durant declined his 2018-2019 option, but he'll probably just sign another one-year deal a la LeBron.  Thomspn is a UFA in 2019 and he'll want to get paid.  Green is a UFA in 2020 and he'll want to get paid (?  maybe?).  But they look like they'll win the next two titles for sure.

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« Reply #8902 on: May 16, 2018, 02:49:55 PM »
^ yup the cavs basically jumped the gun getting rid of kyrie and they are long term paying for it.

anyway, its not over yet and we do have the best player ever -- so we will keep hope alive!

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« Reply #8903 on: May 21, 2018, 06:04:50 AM »
yeah i know big game tonight, go cavs! but since the order was set i was thinking about the draft. the cavs have a good spot with picking 8th. i hope they get mikhal bridges, the big guy who can really play d and shoots pretty well too. that would probably be the best get at their pick. they could use the muscle. i hope they dont go for those undersized shooters like trae young or collin sexton who cant defend.

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« Reply #8904 on: May 22, 2018, 07:48:21 AM »
The series starts again tomorrow in Boston...hopefully with Lebron deeply entrenched in the young Celtics heads.   I don't think they are as bad off as Toronto, but the Cavs definitely have the momentum.  A game 5 win in Boston would be huge for them.

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8905 on: May 22, 2018, 08:01:32 AM »
Great game last night- the only reason it got as close as it did was the turnovers.  Game five is a must win.  Go Cavs!!!


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« Reply #8906 on: May 22, 2018, 08:26:19 AM »
Game 5 is not must win. In fact I think Boston wil win it. They are a pretty tough group, I donít think they will break until the pressure is at its highest.Cavs in 7
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« Reply #8907 on: May 22, 2018, 08:27:11 AM »
Game 5 is not must win. In fact I think Boston wil win it. They are a pretty tough group, I donít think they will break until the pressure is at its highest. Cavs in 7

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Re: Cleveland Cavs Discussion
« Reply #8908 on: May 22, 2018, 08:32:51 AM »
LeBron James and Kyle Korver first played against each other on November 15, 2003.

Here is a 22-year old Korver trying to guard an 18-year old LeBron. https://t.co/q3fU8BDwOf

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« Reply #8909 on: May 22, 2018, 08:33:02 AM »
^^I don't think the team should go into Boston (undefeated at home during the playoffs) for Game 5 without the mindset that the game is a must-win.  The pressure would be on the Cavs during Game 7 more so than on Boston.