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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4800 on: March 01, 2018, 03:34:46 PM »
Oops.. my bad :-)



Thought it was included looking at where the lot was located on the map.




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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4801 on: March 01, 2018, 03:40:20 PM »
^ Every time I look at those surface lots a little piece of me dies..

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« Reply #4802 on: March 01, 2018, 04:20:42 PM »
That's been on the market for about a year. Nothing new there.
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4803 on: March 01, 2018, 04:28:52 PM »
That's been on the market for about a year. Nothing new there.

Yes, the sign for "Vertical Development Opportunity" was up recently there. With the completion of Worthington Yards, every abandoned building in the Warehouse District is accounted for. Surprised the area has been quiet on new construction opportunity. As someone who lives there, it is soul-crushing to walk through the parking lot craters!

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« Reply #4804 on: March 01, 2018, 04:46:24 PM »
^Yes, I often take the trolley from the RTA HQ simply because I don't want to walk through it. It's not the distance, it's just an awful walk.

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« Reply #4805 on: March 21, 2018, 08:43:24 AM »
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« Reply #4806 on: March 23, 2018, 11:06:21 AM »
I don't know where to post this...but check it out!!

Public Square Eagles: Long-gone statues from Cleveland's glory days resurface, go on sale
Posted March 23, 2018 at 10:23 AM | Updated March 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM
Story by Plain Dealer reporter Laura DeMarco

CLEVELAND, Ohio Ė Long gone and seemingly lost for good, two statuesque Cleveland eagles have finally landed. Now theyíre looking for a permanent home.
Age: 120 years. Weight: 5,000 pounds (each). Wingspan: 60íí. Color: pink granite. With: A rich, colorful history. They could be yours Ö for $70,000.

The eagles first roosted on Public Square in 1898, in front of the grand Beaux Arts- Chamber of Commerce Building designed by Bostonís famed Peabody & Stearns firm. At the time, there were four eagles, placed on huge pedestals at street level. They were sculpted by Clevelandís lauded stonemason Joseph Carabelli. The building was on the site of where Key Tower stands today.

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/03/post_203.html


EDIT: These are Little Italy-carved.  If not magically relocated back into Public Square, I wonder if they can make their way back to Murray Hill..??
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« Reply #4807 on: March 25, 2018, 01:33:42 PM »
I don't know where to post this...but check it out!!

Public Square Eagles: Long-gone statues from Cleveland's glory days resurface, go on sale


I hope a local buyer steps up; it would be a shame to lose this pair.
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4808 on: March 27, 2018, 12:06:58 AM »
^ It would be nice with KEY TOWER redoing their mall plaza area for them to buy the eagles and add it to their design layout since they was located at that site!!!

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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4809 on: March 30, 2018, 05:58:12 PM »
$2.62 billion Ohio capital budget includes $58.4 million for Cuyahoga County projects. See the list.
Updated 5:36 PM; Posted 12:57 PM

Cuyahoga County projects receiving more than $1 million:

Concrete repairs at Cuyahoga Community College: $13.5 million
Engaged Learning Laboratories at Cleveland State University: $7.3 million
Cuyahoga Hills Juvenile Correctional Facility housing unit replacement: $6.98 million
Main classroom renovation at Cleveland State: $5.5 million
Cleveland Museum of Natural History Phase II: $2.5 million
Cuyahoga Franklin Hill Stabilization: $2.5 million
Tri-C east campus exterior plaza: $1.9 million
Cleveland State Rhodes Tower renovations: $1.55 million
Cleveland Museum of Art Holden Terrace: $1.25 million
Severance Hall improvements: $1.25 million
Bellefaire JCB expansion: $1 million

Several projects recommended by the Greater Cleveland Partnership, the region's chamber of commerce, were partially funded by the bill...http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/12/rowing_center_rtas_brookpark_s.html

"This legislation will have a big impact on many economic development and cultural assets in our community -- including many in neighborhoods of particular interest to GCP members," partnership President and CEO Joe Roman said in a statement.

The bill was unchanged from when it was introduced in February and will fund projects beginning July 1 through June 30, 2020.

MORE:
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/263_billion_ohio_capital_budge.html
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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4810 on: March 30, 2018, 06:05:50 PM »
$2.62 billion Ohio capital budget includes $58.4 million for Cuyahoga County projects. See the list.
Updated 5:36 PM; Posted 12:57 PM

Cuyahoga County projects receiving more than $1 million:

Concrete repairs at Cuyahoga Community College: $13.5 million
Engaged Learning Laboratories at Cleveland State University: $7.3 million
Cuyahoga Hills Juvenile Correctional Facility housing unit replacement: $6.98 million
Main classroom renovation at Cleveland State: $5.5 million
Cleveland Museum of Natural History Phase II: $2.5 million
Cuyahoga Franklin Hill Stabilization: $2.5 million
Tri-C east campus exterior plaza: $1.9 million
Cleveland State Rhodes Tower renovations: $1.55 million
Cleveland Museum of Art Holden Terrace: $1.25 million
Severance Hall improvements: $1.25 million
Bellefaire JCB expansion: $1 million

Several projects recommended by the Greater Cleveland Partnership, the region's chamber of commerce, were partially funded by the bill...http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/12/rowing_center_rtas_brookpark_s.html

"This legislation will have a big impact on many economic development and cultural assets in our community -- including many in neighborhoods of particular interest to GCP members," partnership President and CEO Joe Roman said in a statement.

The bill was unchanged from when it was introduced in February and will fund projects beginning July 1 through June 30, 2020.

MORE:
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/263_billion_ohio_capital_budge.html

Cuyahoga County is approximately 11% of the state population we're only getting a little over 2% of this capital budget.   Anyone have access to date on tax receipts by county sent to Columbus?

We need new leadership. 

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Re: Cleveland: Random Development News & Info
« Reply #4811 on: March 30, 2018, 06:49:20 PM »

Cuyahoga County is approximately 11% of the state population we're only getting a little over 2% of this capital budget.   Anyone have access to date on tax receipts by county sent to Columbus?

We need new leadership.

Most of the capital budget money goes to state facilities. Your math is flawed if you use the total capital budget number to come up with 2%. Look at the sunset of community projects.

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« Reply #4812 on: March 30, 2018, 07:24:15 PM »
Much of the capital budget goes into funding pools to which applicants can seek funds, such as for public schools, colleges, universities, etc. Where in the state they ultimately end up won't be known until after the biennial capital budget is expended at the end of 2020 state fiscal year.
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« Reply #4813 on: March 30, 2018, 08:23:49 PM »
Ohio capital budget includes $58.4 million for Cuyahoga County projects out of  total of $147 million for community projects for the state.

In 2016 only $160 million was given out state wide, but greater Cleveland received more than $30 million.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/263_billion_ohio_capital_budge.html

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/12/rowing_center_rtas_brookpark_s.html

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« Reply #4814 on: April 03, 2018, 05:07:56 PM »
@SceneAllard
If you think it's weird / backwards that Ohio designated Cleveland's hottest neighborhoods as "Opportunity Zones" (to entice development in "high-poverty" census tracts), you're not alone. https://t.co/Myi7jICwpb
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« Reply #4815 on: April 03, 2018, 05:15:57 PM »
@SceneAllard
If you think it's weird / backwards that Ohio designated Cleveland's hottest neighborhoods as "Opportunity Zones" (to entice development in "high-poverty" census tracts), you're not alone. https://t.co/Myi7jICwpb

Zone is calling out GCP and Gov. Kasich, but not Mayor Jackson. I donít understand, didnít Kasich essentially go with Jacksonís recommendations?

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« Reply #4816 on: April 03, 2018, 05:16:48 PM »
^One endorsement matters more than the others for our next mayor

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« Reply #4817 on: April 03, 2018, 05:25:48 PM »
^One endorsement matters more than the others for our next mayor

Funny that scene digs enough to trace political contributions from developers, but refuses to confront Zone for his selective outrage.

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« Reply #4818 on: April 03, 2018, 05:25:50 PM »
Zone is calling out GCP and Gov. Kasich, but not Mayor Jackson. I donít understand, didnít Kasich essentially go with Jacksonís recommendations?

Nick Castele from WCPN just tweeted a similar question....
https://twitter.com/NickCastele/status/981221936876474368?s=19
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« Reply #4819 on: April 03, 2018, 08:03:00 PM »
i know Matt personally and respect him.  But lets not confuse him with some type of political wizard.  I wouldnt put it past him for him to have not done his homework before thumbing off that tweet and going after Kasich.

That being said, i hope Matt becomes Mayor.  He has much more integrity, leadership, brains that the current clown

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« Reply #4820 on: April 03, 2018, 08:49:34 PM »
I do not understand the issue here. Jackson picked Census tracts based on a detailed study completed by CSU on the appropriate locations for investment incentives. Which matches with national research on where cities should be investing their dollars.

That Downtown is included is likely a good thing. We all know that a strong core helps nearby neighborhoods.

And remember as people say "Ohio City shouldn't be included." Well the City could only pick whole Census Tracts. So, for instance, if you wanted to include the port of Cleveland (west of the Cuyahoga), you need to include Ohio City.

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« Reply #4821 on: April 09, 2018, 11:45:10 PM »
It's a good problem to have! The response could stifle development (ie: add more cheap parking lots) or encourage more development (enhance transit, biking, walking)....

Navigating the success of Downtown Cleveland's developmentAs area continues to grow, parking and traffic issues have become more difficult to navigate
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180408/news/157546/navigating-success-downtown-clevelands-development
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« Reply #4822 on: April 10, 2018, 01:43:52 AM »
It's a good problem to have! The response could stifle development (ie: add more cheap parking lots) or encourage more development (enhance transit, biking, walking)....

Navigating the success of Downtown Cleveland's developmentAs area continues to grow, parking and traffic issues have become more difficult to navigate
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180408/news/157546/navigating-success-downtown-clevelands-development

Itís a delicate balance. Parking needs will always be important. People who are not inclined to take transit or bike will not do so. Some will avoid downtown altogether before they do that, which is what we donít want. However, we donít want parking needs to impede development either. There has to be a balance. I agree that this is a good problem to have, but itís not one without its risks on both sides

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« Reply #4823 on: April 10, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »
Looks like the garage walkway is open.

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« Reply #4825 on: April 18, 2018, 02:32:30 PM »
Interesting theory in this article. While there may be some cross border influence, this firm has an NY office and completed many domestic projects. The quote in the Post is even from the head of the NY office. It would be the same as saying that the new plan and building at the Cleveland Clinic by Foster+Partners is designed by a British firm even though they have two US based offices.


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A project at NASA Glenn Research Center in Cleveland is cited in this Washington Post story as a prime example of architectural synergy between Mexico and the United States.

From the piece:

Whether through the popular Spanish Colonial-style houses that dot the American suburban landscape or the Mayan-inspired concrete blocks of Frank Lloyd Wright's La Miniatura in Pasadena, Calif., American architecture has often been preoccupied with Mexico both as a romantic ideal and a source of the new. Meanwhile, designers from the south have frequently picked up on Mexican themes in American design and reimported them, making them their own.

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« Reply #4826 on: Today at 05:08:23 PM »
Time for a dose of reality. Redirected from the Cleveland demolitions thread....


Over the last couple months there has been more demolition on these agendas than new construction.


To emphasize Mendo's point, look at this list of Design-Review cases for

Northeast -- http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?D=NE
Southeast -- http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?pageNum_rsBRD=0&totalRows_rsBRD=310&D=SE
East -- http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?D=EAST

The other five design districts all have many more renovations and some new construction than demolitions. The east side, except for the Euclid Corridor (which includes UC), continues to empty out.

With more demolitions than construction (including renovations), it's no wonder Cleveland ranks so low in the nation on this list....

https://www.columbusunderground.com/with-6-5-billion-in-multifamily-development-since-2000-columbus-lags-behind-competitive-markets-we1

A little more about that CU report on the ApartmentList.com numbers.  I'd take issue with the CU headline about Columbus "lagging behind competitive markets".  The markets that Columbus Metro area is lagging are the following:  Phoenix ($13 Billion), Chicago ($19.8 Billion), Denver ($12 Billion), Minneapolis ($8.6 Billion), Portland ($8.2 Billion), Charlotte ($9.5 Billion), and Austin ($12.8 Billion).

Phoenix, Chicago, Denver & Minneapolis have much larger metros and aren't peer cities to Columbus.  Portland, Charlotte & Austin are peer cities to Columbus, but are also located in higher growth states and/or regions. 

The article did note that the level of multifamily development in Columbus does lead the State of Ohio, and much of the Midwest, outpacing Cincinnati ($3 Billion), Cleveland ($990 Million), Detroit ($3.5 Billion), Pittsburgh ($2 Billion), Indianapolis ($4.9 Billion) and Louisville ($2.2 Billion).

The full ApartmentList.com article:  https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/increasing-importance-multifamily-construction/
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« Reply #4827 on: Today at 05:49:54 PM »
Wow, that number is sobering...and just a bit head scratching. 

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« Reply #4828 on: Today at 06:00:19 PM »
The numbers aren't that surprising if we take an honest look at the amount of new construction around the city, and the fact that the population is still falling. How excited were we when construction started on Beacon? The first residential highrise downtown in how many years? Compared to other midsize metros, like Minneapolis that probably started 2 new highrises in the time it took you to read this.

edit: It's not all doom and gloom though. Our largest projects have been in the last couple years, and not likely included in the totals. For example the Garfield, Leader, Standard, Worthington buildings, Edison, One University Circle, Centric, Quarter, Beacon, Playhouse Square. All of which either wrapped up in 2017 or still under construction, collectively around $500 million.
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« Reply #4829 on: Today at 06:10:08 PM »
Agreed but I wouldn't compare Cleveland to Minneapolis.  Indy just finished their first downtown highrise in 15 years.  Cbus hasn't built one.  When was Cinci's last highrise built?  Those are our peer cities...thats why its a it of a headscratcher.