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Offline Mendo

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #210 on: September 06, 2018, 11:23:21 AM »
What is the justification for needing a permit? Usually there has to be some tangible benefit to justify a tax or fee, doesn't there?

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #211 on: September 06, 2018, 11:28:21 AM »
What is the justification for needing a permit? Usually there has to be some tangible benefit to justify a tax or fee, doesn't there?

The ability to leave unattended scooters in the public right of way would be one.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #212 on: September 06, 2018, 12:50:34 PM »
What is the justification for needing a permit? Usually there has to be some tangible benefit to justify a tax or fee, doesn't there?
If the scooters are creating additional work for the City (which appears to be the case), then it seems totally reasonable to require a tax/fee.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #213 on: September 06, 2018, 12:51:47 PM »
Downtown Cincinnati is now about 50 minutes into an absolute deluge of a downpour, complete with intermittent hail (I took a hit to the arm by a nickle sized piece) and a few lighting strikes every minute. I'd be surprised if we don't end up with over 2 inches of rain over the course of about an hours time. About 20 minutes into the storm I spotted a guy leisurely scooting down the sidewalk on his Bird.
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #214 on: September 07, 2018, 03:20:44 PM »
Columbus wants Bird, Lime to pay hefty fees to operate here



Like all the electric scooters around town? Think the owners will fork over $38,000 to keep them here?

Columbus seems to think so.

Each vendor would have to pay $500 for an operating permit, according to the current plan to regulate the sharable electric scooters.

After that fee is paid, an additional $80 one-time fee would be charged as well as the whopper $75 per scooter. Combined, that's a little over $38,000 for each vendor that maxes out how many scooters it can deploy on city streets.

And, it compares with, say, Nashville, where the operators are being charged less than $20,000 for the same number of scooters.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #215 on: September 07, 2018, 10:53:28 PM »
Each vendor would have to pay $500 for an operating permit, according to the current plan to regulate the sharable electric scooters.

After that fee is paid, an additional $80 one-time fee would be charged as well as the whopper $75 per scooter. Combined, that's a little over $38,000 for each vendor that maxes out how many scooters it can deploy on city streets.

That's a little hyperbolic- at $0.15 per minute, $38,000 is only 70 hours of revenue. There's also a $1.00 charge for each use. This "whopper" payment could probably be paid in a few days.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #216 on: September 11, 2018, 04:00:55 PM »
Cincinnati: Bird rival launches its own electronic scooters downtown

Bird Rides Inc. launched its fleet of dockless electronic scooters in Cincinnati in July, and now its chief rival has populated downtown Cincinnati with its own shareable scooters.

Lime, which launched dockless bicycles on the campus of Xavier University in August dockless meaning that, unlike RedBike, they don't have to be picked up from and returned to a designated station unleashed a fleet of electronic scooters called Lime-S in downtown Cincinnati on Tuesday.

Lime-S scooters appeared on Cincinnati streets early Sept. 11. The Lime app shows dozens of scooters throughout downtown Cincinnati and Over-the-Rhine, but a final count was not immediately available.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #217 on: September 11, 2018, 04:21:51 PM »
Begun, the scooter wars have.
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #218 on: September 11, 2018, 04:37:03 PM »
is there a difference between the two?

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #219 on: September 11, 2018, 04:40:37 PM »
is there a difference between the two?

I think the Bird's generally have larger wheels.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #220 on: September 11, 2018, 04:43:37 PM »
is there a difference between the two?

The Limes have (or had?) a Speedometer.  They're generally a bit bigger and have more foot space than the Birds.  They also go slightly faster in my experience.
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #221 on: September 11, 2018, 05:40:02 PM »
it will be interesting to see how this whole scooter thing plays out over the next year or 2.

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #222 on: September 12, 2018, 05:16:19 PM »
Less than 3 days use:
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #223 on: September 12, 2018, 05:37:03 PM »
it will be interesting to see how this whole scooter thing plays out over the next year or 2.

Scroll through the bicycles on Craigslist.  Lots and lots of circa-2015 fixies. 

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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #224 on: September 14, 2018, 04:26:04 PM »
Lime mishap at lunch today on Walnut St. between 4th & 3rd. It appeared that he just lost control...
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
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Re: Electric Scooter Sharing
« Reply #226 on: September 18, 2018, 09:59:17 PM »
Scooter safety dominates discussion at public forum as City Council considers rules

Scooters have been a hot-button issue in Columbus in recent weeks and the debate over the ubiquitous ride-sharing vehicles came to Columbus City Council on Tuesday.

Council members heard from concerned citizens during a crowded public forum at City Hall as they prepare to implement legislation regulating scooters and other mobility devices.

Columbus resident Sharon Montgomery said she appreciated proposed rules detailing how and where riders can use scooters, but was worried the devices "make the big picture of road-use even more complex."

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