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2018 U.S. Senate Race
« on: July 21, 2017, 08:08:09 AM »
I'm hearing more and more about the candidates in this race, so I was very surprised there wasn't already a thread started on this topic.

Incumbent Sherrod Brown will be seeking a 3rd term as Ohio Senator. Josh Mandel, State Treasurer, has also announced he will again challenge Brown for his seat. Mandel lost to Brown in the 2012 Senate race. Democrat Brown won with 50.7%, Republican Mandel had 44.7% and Independent Scott Rupert had 4.6%, according to wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Ohio,_2012
Michael Gibbins will challenge Mandel in a Republican primary, and it's possible that U.S. Representative Pat Tiberi could join the race with a good chunk of money he's already raised. There have also been rumors that best selling author, J.D. Vance might throw his hat in the GOP ring.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2017, 08:28:11 AM »
I know it's early, but there have already been some polls and Mandel has been ahead. Hopefully that's just because Brown hasn't really started campaigning yet.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2017, 08:29:42 AM »
Mandel is already off to a bad start getting admonished online for siding with Alt-right trolls.  He is gonna try to ride the Trump wave that has already crashed.  But I guess those of us in Ohio are always behind the trends.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2017, 09:02:34 AM »
Immediately when Trump won Mandel changed his tactic to sound like the biggest Trump supporter.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2017, 09:12:51 AM »
Mandel is already off to a bad start getting admonished online for siding with Alt-right trolls.  He is gonna try to ride the Trump wave that has already crashed.  But I guess those of us in Ohio are always behind the trends.

An article on cleveland.com about this.

Josh Mandel sides with 'alt-light' blogger over Anti-Defamation League
Updated on July 21, 2017 at 7:16 AM Posted on July 20, 2017 at 3:58 PM
 Andrew J. Tobias, cleveland.com

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2017/07/josh_mandel_sides_with_alt-lig.html#incart_m-rpt-1


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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2017, 09:21:05 AM »
Immediately when Trump won Mandel changed his tactic to sound like the biggest Trump supporter.
That's what I thought, but it seems Mandel is way out in front of Trump on this type of behavior. As far back as 2010 Mandel was calling his African American opponent, Kevin Boyce a Muslim in the race for State Treasurer. Boyce is not a Muslim.
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/10/mandel_to_stop_airing_controve.html
He accused Boyce of insider dealings, the same thing he is accusing Brown of doing. 

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM »
Immediately when Trump won Mandel changed his tactic to sound like the biggest Trump supporter.

It's probably not a bad strategy given the fact that Trump carried Ohio with one of the biggest victory margins in nearly three decades.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2017, 09:39:24 AM »
Mandel wont defeat brown, the only person who could take Brown down would be Portman (theoretically) at this point. Obviously that wont happen.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 02:04:08 PM »
When you (Mandel) are in the Bannon wing of the GOP, this is what you say... https://t.co/bzPTWljt3o
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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 02:08:23 PM »
Cleveland literally watched Mandel sell his soul from establishment GOP candidate into becoming a whore for populist rhetoric. The man is a career politician elected with his family's money. He is the swamp.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 10:56:14 AM »
https://crooked.com/podcast/mike-pence-sleep-like-horse-live-cleveland/

Pod Save America episode from last month in Cleveland.  They interviewed Sherrod Brown and his wife and played a fun game with Mandel quotes (believe the game was called "Breitbart or Mandel?").  Interview starts at 46:30.

-Who promoted a tweet that said "I stand with Israel and my Judeo-Christian culture and I find Islam offensive?"

-In a conversation about sexism in the tech industry, who said there's no bias against women they just suck at interviews?

-Who came to the defense of an alt-right misogynist behind PizzaGate when the Anti-Defamation league called him out as a bigot?

-Who posted an unsubstantiated three year old story about kids getting beaten at an Ohio mosque for failing to read the Quran?

-Who called Gabby Giffords the "gun control movement's human shield?"

-Who labeled the Republican candidate for Senate a "class act" after he said pregnancies from rape were "something God intended?"

Good luck figuring them out lol.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 02:48:34 PM »
Interesting. None of the other Republicans really seem viable - I wonder if someone else is going to jump into the race? What's Kasich doing later this year?

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 02:56:58 PM »
Did not expect that this afternoon.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 03:01:14 PM »
The article mentions Taylor and Renacci ... and I have to admit, I don't know either of them that well.

I do know, however, that they are different than Josh Mandel.  That likely means they're an improvement based on general laws of statistics.

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 03:05:28 PM »
Did not expect that this afternoon.

A Friday afternoon news dump for "wife's health?"  Yeah, ok.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 03:19:09 PM »
Yeah I despise Josh Mandel as a politician... he is the swamp he pretends to be draining.

Nonetheless, as a human, it's just plain wrong to celebrate his departure based on his wife's deteriorating health.

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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 03:19:54 PM »
Interesting. None of the other Republicans really seem viable - I wonder if someone else is going to jump into the race? What's Kasich doing later this year?

Gibbons will win the nod.

No one was beating Brown anyways. Both of are Senators are popular statewide.

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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 03:25:06 PM »
Yeah I despise Josh Mandel as a politician... he is the swamp he pretends to be draining.

Nonetheless, as a human, it's just plain wrong to celebrate his departure based on his wife's deteriorating health.

My brother is a happily-married gay man, but if Mandel had is way he would take that away from him in a second.   Why should we care about his wife?

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 03:27:00 PM »
^Because I'd assume you're a better person than him? Or no?

Honestly, what an awful thing to say. I honestly can't believe I'm even defending Josh Mandel who is likely my least favorite Ohio-wide candidate in history.

This reaction is why I am politically homeless. Here I am, a fiscally conservative, socially liberal white male who doesn't like Donald Trump, pretty much begging to be pulled back into the Democratic fray and yet this petty BS persists. If you believe your policy is better then be the better person.
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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 03:27:33 PM »
Interesting. None of the other Republicans really seem viable - I wonder if someone else is going to jump into the race? What's Kasich doing later this year?

Gibbons will win the nod.

No one was beating Brown anyways. Both of are Senators are popular statewide.

I agree and I've always found it strange that we have a Dem and GOP senator that are both very popular.  I also kinda like having the state represented by each party.  But hey we are a purple state I guess.

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 03:29:51 PM »
^Because I'd assume you're a better person than him? Or no?

 Well of course--just a wee bit of hyperbole here.   But seriously, Mandel would prefer that a gay couple not be able to make decisions affecting each other's health.  There is something just a bit ironic there.   Maybe he'll have a come to Jews-for-Jesus moment?

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2018, 03:34:56 PM »
Interesting. None of the other Republicans really seem viable - I wonder if someone else is going to jump into the race? What's Kasich doing later this year?

Gibbons will win the nod.

No one was beating Brown anyways. Both of are Senators are popular statewide.

I agree and I've always found it strange that we have a Dem and GOP senator that are both very popular.  I also kinda like having the state represented by each party.  But hey we are a purple state I guess.

On issues of trade, Sherrod Brown and Donald Trump (or perhaps I should say candidate Donald Trump) actually have more in common than either might admit.  Those issues are high-salience (i.e., more likely to determine actual vote) to a decent chunk of blue-collar Ohio, even those who might be more traditionalist on other issues where Brown is more progressive.  Sight unseen, I'm guessing there are a lot of Ohioans who voted for both Brown and Trump.

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2018, 03:36:39 PM »
^Very true. Rob Portman is free-trade through and through. That is not DJ or SB.

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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2018, 03:52:15 PM »
I think I agree more with Portman on fiscal issues (for the most part) but I agree with Brown on social issues.  But I like Brown better altogether.

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2018, 03:58:02 PM »
I think I agree more with Portman on fiscal issues (for the most part) but I agree with Brown on social issues.  But I like Brown better altogether.

Brown would have a good shot at POTUS (wouldn't be my preference). But he's widely popular with blue collar workers and has a progressive enough agenda to win over the Left. He gave my commencement speech and I was fortunate enough to speak with him. I disagree with him on a lot but he came off as a very genuine and kind guy.

Honestly, the biggest thing standing between him and a run at POTUS is his appearance. Buy a comb, Sherrod, and button your collar.

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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2018, 04:00:48 PM »
Honestly, the biggest thing standing between him and a run at POTUS is his appearance. Buy a comb, Sherrod, and button your collar.

Have...have you seen the current POTUS?

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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2018, 04:02:27 PM »
^^ Haha he is always disheveled looking. 

I think you touched on something too.  I think he is genuine and it might be why I like him.  I don;t believe for a second that trump is genuine about his concern for working class but I think the Sherrod is.  I don;t agree with him on trade but I think he actually believes in it because he actually cares about workers. 

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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2018, 04:10:04 PM »
I think I agree more with Portman on fiscal issues (for the most part) but I agree with Brown on social issues.  But I like Brown better altogether.

Given his vote for the tax plan do you really agree with him on fiscal issues?  Seems to me he's all talk on being fiscally responsible with no real principals of the sort.
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