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2026 FIFA World Cup
« on: April 12, 2017, 10:34:39 AM »


UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO DECLARE INTENTION TO SUBMIT UNIFIED BID TO HOST 2026 FIFA WORLD CUP

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/04/10/17/52/20170410-news-us-soccer-canada-mexico-submit-unified-bid-host-2026-fifa-world-cup


World Cup 2026 would the first tournament with an expanded 48-team field (instead of the current 32-team field).  According to reports, the World Cup 2026 proposal would have 60 games played in the U.S., 10 in Mexico and 10 in Canada:  https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/851500711489802240
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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 01:06:00 PM »
This was just posted in another thread:

UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO DECLARE INTENTION TO SUBMIT UNIFIED BID TO HOST 2026 FIFA WORLD CUP

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http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/04/10/17/52/20170410-news-us-soccer-canada-mexico-submit-unified-bid-host-2026-fifa-world-cup

World Cup 2026 would the first tournament with an expanded 48-team field (instead of the current 32-team field).  According to reports, the World Cup 2026 proposal would have 60 games played in the U.S., 10 in Mexico and 10 in Canada:  https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/851500711489802240

How we do ensure that some of the 60 games are held in Cleveland?  US Soccer--or whoever decides these things--screwed us last time on their US bid to FIFA.

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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »
This was just posted in another thread:

UNITED STATES, CANADA AND MEXICO DECLARE INTENTION TO SUBMIT UNIFIED BID TO HOST 2026 FIFA WORLD CUP

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http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/04/10/17/52/20170410-news-us-soccer-canada-mexico-submit-unified-bid-host-2026-fifa-world-cup

World Cup 2026 would the first tournament with an expanded 48-team field (instead of the current 32-team field).  According to reports, the World Cup 2026 proposal would have 60 games played in the U.S., 10 in Mexico and 10 in Canada:  https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/851500711489802240

How we do ensure that some of the 60 games are held in Cleveland?  US Soccer--or whoever decides these things--screwed us last time on their US bid to FIFA.



Do you know if Cleveland got screwed by FIFA last time around?

I think the current administration is more interested in getting Cleveland on the Global Dirt Bike tour. ;)
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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 01:14:11 PM »
^Yes, we did.  It wasn't FIFA that screwed us--it was the US body.  The US committee puts together the proposal to FIFA and in that proposal was the list of cities that would host the matches. CLE was not one of the cities.  I'll see if I can dig up that bid. I have it somewhere.
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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2017, 01:15:02 PM »
For starts, we can put on a great show in July for the Gold Cup and show we can welcome international fans and it's a great experience for all

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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
Here are the cities chosen over CLE.  From the 2018/2022 bid by the US Committee to FIFA:


"The 18 cities that have been selected for inclusion in the official USA Bid Committee bid book that will be presented to FIFA are, in alphabetical order: Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, Nashville, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Diego, Seattle, Tampa and Washington, D.C....

To meet the maximum number of 18 cities that can be included in the official bid book to FIFA, the USA Bid Committee had to eliminate nine candidate host cities that had remained under consideration into the final round. In alphabetical order, those cities are Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Jacksonville, Oakland, Orlando, St. Louis and San Francisco. Among the nine eliminated cities, four were host cities when the United States previously hosted the FIFA World Cup™ in 1994: Chicago, Detroit, Orlando and San Francisco."

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/17/12/38/usa-bid-committee-announces-cities-to-be-included-in-us-bid-to-host-fifa-world-cup
 


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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2017, 01:25:23 PM »
[Moderators:  I mislabeled the title to this thread by accident---could you please change to

Cleveland: 2026 World Cup

(instead of 2022) ?

Thanks.]

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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2017, 01:40:28 PM »
You can use this thread to discuss all things 2026 FIFA World Cup.

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2017, 03:11:37 PM »
I'll assume Cleveland's financial "donation" to the US body was too low for the previous bid. At FIFA and it's regional organizations it's all about pay-to-play. ;)
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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 04:09:50 PM »
Cincinnati makes short list of World Cup host cities

Cincinnati has made the short list of potential World Cup host cities for the 2026 event.

Paul Brown Stadium is among a group of 32 sites selected by a joint North American bid committee to be presented to international soccer governing body FIFA early next year. The full list includes 25 U.S. cities, four in Canada and three in Mexico.

The joint committee is vying to host the FIFA 2026 World Cup. Cincinnati was among 44 cities that included 49 stadiums asked by the United Bid Committee of the United States, Mexico and Canada in August to provide information regarding their ability to host the huge global event.

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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 12:22:24 AM »
Good. Now I wonder if the cities are lump together by region and the committee tries to have games in each region. So Cincy would be the in the midwest competing with Chicago, Detroit, and KC.

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 08:55:58 AM »
The recent world cups usually had 12 host cities with 32 teams and 64 total games.  Considering the 2026 world cup is jumping up to 48 teams and 80 games I don't see why they won't have at least 16-18 host cities if not more.  I still don't think Cincy will make the final cut but they should at least be able to hot some a team(s) training grounds especially if the FC stadium gets built. 

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 09:36:54 AM »
If anyone but Trump would be in office in 2018 I'd say the North American bid would be a lock. But since he will be there don't be surprised if Morocco gets the bid.

Since most of the players that matter are playing in Europe, I'd think they'd push FIFA for Morocco too as long as the facilities are OK. Yeah, it's hot but travel time is short and no jet lag.
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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 12:47:58 PM »
Travel time and jet lag should not be of concern for an event like the World Cup. If they were, how did South Africa get it?

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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 01:20:25 PM »
Travel time and jet lag should not be of concern for an event like the World Cup. If they were, how did South Africa get it?

South Africa is longer travel time but there is no real jet lag from Western Europe to South Africa. Flying due south for the most part. Seasonal disorders? :)

I'm not saying players have any control of the process but it would be better for the Euro Leagues if it were played in Morocco.

I don't think Morocco has a real chance but with Trump, never say never. They would have to build more indoor facilities due to the summer heat (although not nearly as bad as Qatar). It would be a big FU vote to the US for sure.

The other possibility would be for FIFA to demand that the higher profile games be played in Mexico and Canada despite the fact that most of the venues will be in the US.
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2017, 01:38:27 PM »
For a world cup the teams usually fly to/close to the country that's hosting the event and set up camp weeks or even up to a month before the games start.  Jet lag doesn't have any affect

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2017, 01:43:04 PM »
Travel time and jet lag should not be of concern for an event like the World Cup. If they were, how did South Africa get it?

South Africa is longer travel time but there is no real jet lag from Western Europe to South Africa. Flying due south for the most part. Seasonal disorders? :)

I'm not saying players have any control of the process but it would be better for the Euro Leagues if it were played in Morocco.

I don't think Morocco has a real chance but with Trump, never say never. They would have to build more indoor facilities due to the summer heat (although not nearly as bad as Qatar). It would be a big FU vote to the US for sure.

The other possibility would be for FIFA to demand that the higher profile games be played in Mexico and Canada despite the fact that most of the venues will be in the US.

From what I know of FIFA, they don't exactly have a strong moral compass.

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Re: 2026 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2018, 11:19:14 AM »
World Cup 2026: United States, Canada and Mexico Win FIFA Vote:  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/sports/world-cup/fifa-2026-vote-north-america-morocco.html

World Cup 2026: Canada, US & Mexico joint bid wins right to host tournament:  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44464913
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 11:39:32 AM »
Cincinnati is on the short list. 16 cities will host, and there are currently 23 potential host cities. I expect most of the cut cities to be on the East Coast of the US.


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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2018, 11:52:54 AM »
World Cup coming to U.S.; Cincinnati could host games

The World Cup is returning to North America, moving Cincinnati a lot closer to hosting one of the world’s biggest soccer matches.

FIFA Congress, an annual meeting of the members of soccer’s global governing body, has awarded the 2026 World Cup to a united bid consisting of the United States, Canada and Mexico. The organization made the announcement on Wednesday morning in Moscow, setting off celebrations in the U.S. and across North America.

The united bid beat out Morocco, the only other finalist, by a vote of 134-65. The U.S. previously hosted the World Cup in 1994. Mexico hosted it in 1970 and 1986. Canada has never hosted the event, which is held every four years.

Cincinnati is one of 23 cities that the United Bid Committee has accepted as potential host cities for World Cup matches. That list is expected to be trimmed to the final 16 cities by June 2020.

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2018, 01:11:46 PM »
On March 14, 2018 Vancouver, Minneapolis and Chicago all announced that they were dropping out as potential host cities. All three cities cited concerns over the financial transparency of being a host city and cited FIFA's unwillingness to negotiate financial details as reasons for their decisions; the bid committee announced the next day they had reduced the number of cities in the bid to 23.

Translation -- Host cities are on the wrong side of the money. Although for mid-tier cities it is a chance to shine on a global scale for a week or two.

Morocco had no real bid and yet got 65 votes. FIFA is still a disaster.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2018, 01:30:51 PM »
^Yeah, looking at the list of cities selected (e.g., Cincinnati, but not Cleveland) I thought that something shady was up, especially knowing the corruption of FIFA.....not sure how clean the US committee is either given the published list of cities.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2018, 01:45:30 PM »
tbh, and this pains me to say, Cleveland doesnt deserve it.  We have had multiple opportunities to show we can get behind international soccer and have not really taken advantage of that.  The USA-Belgium game a few years back was not a great atmosphere and not really well attended.  The Gold Cup last summer was not even a third full stadium....and just last night, 12K for team USA women vs China.  Not saying that has to be a sellout, but those are April Indians game numbers. 

It is what it is, not saying there is anything wrong with the numbers, but we cant be expected to pull the world Cup. Nashville, for example, in their gold cup game last summer was almost sold out at 50K and it was pretty raucous

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2018, 01:52:43 PM »
Cincy did 35k for their USWNT game at Nippert last summer and probably would have done more if they had the space.

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2018, 01:56:39 PM »
tbh, and this pains me to say, Cleveland doesnt deserve it.  We have had multiple opportunities to show we can get behind international soccer and have not really taken advantage of that.  The USA-Belgium game a few years back was not a great atmosphere and not really well attended.  The Gold Cup last summer was not even a third full stadium....and just last night, 12K for team USA women vs China.  Not saying that has to be a sellout, but those are April Indians game numbers. 

It is what it is, not saying there is anything wrong with the numbers, but we cant be expected to pull the world Cup. Nashville, for example, in their gold cup game last summer was almost sold out at 50K and it was pretty raucous

Gold Cup is coming back to Cleveland in 2019...

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2018, 01:56:43 PM »
I wonder if the legalization of sports gambling nationwide helped the decision. Soccer gambling is a gigantic business that the U.S. was locked out of.


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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2018, 01:57:08 PM »
Cincinnati sold out (34k) a friendly between FC Cincinnati and Crystal Palace in 2016 and sold 30k+ for a Women's National Team friendly in 2017. I think that is a big reason why we are being considered. The thing we don't have going for us is that we aren't a "destination" city like Nashville is.

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2018, 01:58:27 PM »
tbh, and this pains me to say, Cleveland doesnt deserve it.  We have had multiple opportunities to show we can get behind international soccer and have not really taken advantage of that.  The USA-Belgium game a few years back was not a great atmosphere and not really well attended.  The Gold Cup last summer was not even a third full stadium....and just last night, 12K for team USA women vs China.  Not saying that has to be a sellout, but those are April Indians game numbers. 

It is what it is, not saying there is anything wrong with the numbers, but we cant be expected to pull the world Cup. Nashville, for example, in their gold cup game last summer was almost sold out at 50K and it was pretty raucous

Those are dismal numbers. But I would attribute it to poor marketing. For example, I had no idea of a USA women vs China game last night and I generally stay on top of all events going on in town. I see no media coverage before the games alerting the public and no real effort by others. With 3MM people in Cleveland, it should not be hard to fill a 60k seat stadium. Its that very few people know about these opportunities.  That said, CLE would definitely sell out a World Cup game or two....

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »
FIFA and it's subsidiaries are all about the money. That's why Chicago, Minneapolis and Vancouver walked. It's why the 2026 bidding process was lukewarm. It's hard to beat the "United" bid which is expected to make FIFA $11 billion. If Cleveland offers up enough incentives they would have been considered. It's naive to think it's about atmosphere. Just being honest.

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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2018, 02:17:53 PM »
Just curious, how much and what did Cincinnati offer?