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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #630 on: March 04, 2018, 09:50:24 AM »
Shows that tax and invest works. California still has one of the nation's most robust economies. Someday, I hope California realizes it would be better off if it wasn't part of the socially backwards USA. Maybe the NE states will also form their own, more innovative nation too....

Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-browns-legacy-a-6-1-billion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #631 on: March 08, 2018, 11:32:11 AM »
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #632 on: March 08, 2018, 01:07:54 PM »
Yeah Capitalism is the worst system post-WWII and has turned Americans into the worst individual monsters in the world. People were much happier and better under Communism. Just ignore Stalin, the Gulag, the Soviet Holocaust, Mao, Castro, the Aral Sea (which is no more), Chernobyl and Vladimir Putin. Peoples lives were super awesome. That's why so many countries stayed Communist after the Soviet Union fell.  :D :D
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #633 on: March 08, 2018, 01:17:32 PM »
Yeah Capitalism is the worst system post-WWII and has turned Americans into the worst individual monsters in the world. People were much happier and better under Communism. Just ignore Stalin, the Gulag, the Soviet Holocaust, Mao, Castro, the Aral Sea (which is no more), Chernobyl and Vladimir Putin. Peoples lives were super awesome. That's why so many countries stayed Communist after the Soviet Union fell.  :D :D

So Communism = Socialism? No wonder you are freaking out. You don't even know the difference.

I'm going to make you feel bad...

we're already Socialist here in the United States and have been since the New Deal

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #634 on: March 13, 2018, 10:39:28 PM »
And then what, start a civil war?

Could Trump and Sessions send federal troops to California over immigration?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/03/13/trump-sessions-might-send-federal-troops-california-immigration-laws-glenn-reynolds-column/417633002/
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #635 on: April 01, 2018, 05:17:43 PM »
The Unhappy States of America
Even with the economy humming, Americans are feeling more anxious, depressed, and dissatisfied with their lives than they did in 2009
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/03/the-unhappy-states-of-america/555800/
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #636 on: April 07, 2018, 02:00:52 PM »
Why Not The USA

Although the Netherlands has a population of 17 million, only 11,600 people are locked up. That's a rate of 69 incarcerations per 100,000 people. The US, meanwhile, has a rate of 716 per 100,000 — the highest in the world. A number of factors underlie the Netherlands' ability to keep its crime rate so low, namely, relaxed drug laws, a focus on rehabilitation over punishment, and an electronic ankle monitoring system that allows people to re-enter the workforce. No surprise that among the most ardent opponents of legalized Marijuana are the for profit private prisons here in the USA...

Dutch prisons are closing because the country is so safe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-prisons-are-closing-because-the-country-is-so-safe-a7765521.html
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #637 on: April 07, 2018, 02:15:42 PM »
The rest of the world moves forward while we implement 3rd World policy such as privatizing prisons.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #638 on: April 09, 2018, 12:37:52 AM »
Except that we're #1...
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #639 on: April 16, 2018, 01:58:30 PM »
Lawrence Ferlinghetti decades ago wrote and it gives me chills to read it today:
“Pity the nation whose people are sheep,
and whose shepherds mislead them.
Pity the nation whose leaders are liars, whose sages are silenced,
and whose bigots haunt the airwaves.
Pity the nation that raises not its voice,
except to praise conquerors and acclaim the bully as hero
and aims to rule the world with force and by torture.
Pity the nation that knows no other language but its own
and no other culture but its own.
Pity the nation whose breath is money
and sleeps the sleep of the too well fed.
Pity the nation — oh, pity the people who allow their rights to erode
and their freedoms to be washed away.
My country, tears of thee, sweet land of liberty.”
― Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #640 on: May 01, 2018, 01:32:58 PM »
What the hell is happening to this country? Drivers are running over people and not even stopping to help in record numbers. Is this America's bully mentality? Or part of the general dehumanization represented by mass killings? Think about this -- how many strangers do you talk to in a given day?

Hit-and-Run Deaths Are Skyrocketing, and Pedestrians and Cyclists Bear the Brunt
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/05/01/hit-and-run-deaths-are-skyrocketing-and-pedestrians-and-cyclists-bear-the-brunt/
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #641 on: May 01, 2018, 01:40:43 PM »
I'm getting ready to start the process of selling my street motorcycle. I rode on the street for about 20 years. Nowadays there's too many people looking at their phones and people who can't see through the massive blind spots of their crossovers. I'm still into dirt bikes though; none of that crap out on the trail or track!

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #642 on: May 01, 2018, 01:47:31 PM »
^^ There have been a few newsworthy hit and runs in Cincinnati over the last couple of years - seemingly every time the driver was on heroin and typically already had a suspended license. I'd be surprised if the increase in heroin addiction wasn't a major contributing factor to this increase. People seemingly can't even wait to get home to use it, they do it immediately and then drive home, putting the public at risk.

Also, not to get too far off topic - but it's always surprising to me how many car accidents are caused by people who already have suspended licenses. It's almost certainly a factor in hit and runs, as the article mentions. I've been in three accidents in my life, all the fault of other drivers (twice while I was in my car, parked, not even moving!), and in all cases the other driver had a suspended license, no insurance, and expired tags.  The penalty for things like a suspended license should be much steeper than they are.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #643 on: May 01, 2018, 02:07:40 PM »
Oh yeah heroin addicts too. The best motorcycling roads are out in the sticks with all those heroin addicts.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #644 on: May 01, 2018, 03:34:32 PM »
This really deserves it's own thread. So I created one at:
https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,31945.0.html
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #645 on: May 01, 2018, 03:50:32 PM »
Also, not to get too far off topic - but it's always surprising to me how many car accidents are caused by people who already have suspended licenses. It's almost certainly a factor in hit and runs, as the article mentions. I've been in three accidents in my life, all the fault of other drivers (twice while I was in my car, parked, not even moving!), and in all cases the other driver had a suspended license, no insurance, and expired tags.  The penalty for things like a suspended license should be much steeper than they are.

When the city is designed around the car and alternative transportation options suck, desperate times (lack of license) require desperate measures (driving anyway).

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #646 on: May 18, 2018, 10:35:15 PM »
If I read through every post on this 22 page thread, I would still place recent blame on the decline of our great nation on social media.  This sort of thing has become weaponized--appearing within 20 minutes after the shooting.  But Congress doesn't feel the need to investigate Russian meddling?

Fake Facebook accounts and online lies multiply in hours after Santa Fe school shooting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/05/18/fake-facebook-accounts-and-viral-lies-multiply-in-hours-after-santa-fe-school-shooting/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bec58a35918e

Followed closely by the militarization of our police force.  There is an active shooter, and the local police go take the time to suit up in their fully Navy Seal tactical gear.  You never know when you're going to have to scale the gym bleachers and rapel upside-down while a kid with a shotgun blasts up the school....

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #647 on: May 18, 2018, 11:11:10 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if the fake accounts and fake news were generated just as much or more by American think tanks rather than foreign interests. That's what that scummy industry is about now.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #648 on: May 21, 2018, 01:55:55 AM »
This is such an American story....
1) Medical debt;
2) Working two jobs;
3) Underpaid teacher;
4) Death by school shooting.

None of these should happen. None of them needs to happen. We can fix all of this. We just need the political will.
https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/998065938556637184

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One of the Santa Fe High School victims was teacher Cynthia Tisdale. She worked two jobs so that she could pay for medical expenses for her terminally ill husband. Cynthia's body was identified by her son, a local detective who responded to the shooting.
http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/article_1893e0c6-5b1c-11e8-be75-4f64f917b909.html
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #649 on: May 24, 2018, 11:00:09 PM »
So protesting is unAmerican and protestors need to be deported to somewhere. If you have a grievance then you are the problem. Everything is fine here, if you just comply and do as you are told there is not reason for you to be upset. This is the greatest place in the world. It’s not up for debate....
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #650 on: May 31, 2018, 01:22:25 AM »
Satisfied with way democracy is working, 2017.

India: 79%
Germany: 73%
Canada: 70%
Indonesia: 69%
Russia: 59%
UK: 52%
Poland: 51%
Japan: 50%
US: 46%
South Africa: 43%
Nigeria: 41%
France: 34%
Brazil: 28%
Venezuela: 25%
Spain: 25%
Lebanon: 8%
Mexico: 6%

(Pew Research)
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1001885956939632640?s=19
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #651 on: May 31, 2018, 10:00:46 AM »
So protesting is unAmerican and protestors need to be deported to somewhere. If you have a grievance then you are the problem. Everything is fine here, if you just comply and do as you are told there is not reason for you to be upset. This is the greatest place in the world. It’s not up for debate....

We are getting very authoritarian recently.
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #652 on: June 13, 2018, 11:58:46 AM »
Redirected....



Hi, @KJP https://standuprepublic.com/

@YABO713 Except I do not see hope for or a benefit from reuniting the United States. I want the Northeast-Rust Belt regions and Pacific coast states to become part of Canada. Its politics and culture offers less corruption, urban blight/ violence, better human rights, higher quality of life, etc. The USA will never achieve what Canada has as long as it contains the likes of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas or parts of other states.
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #653 on: June 13, 2018, 12:03:11 PM »
Are you aware of segregation practices in schools in some Canadian provinces? @KJP

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« Reply #654 on: June 13, 2018, 12:20:09 PM »
Yes. They have their blemishes too, some enabled by a less powerful federal government and more independent actions of its provinces. The provincialism, for example, has caused the French-speaking Quebec province to reject any use of English in public whereas they demand that the rest of Canada have bilingual public usage even though there are few French outside of Quebec. My seatmates on my flight from Rome to Toronto on Saturday said they could not stand this Quebec provincialism which prompted them to move from Montreal to Toronto. But there are many more things I like about Canada than dislike.

Fortunately or unfortunately, I also like my neighborhood and our westside very much. So I have a issue about moving. I am displeased with the fact that my neighborhood is in America so my ideal situation is to have my neighborhood become part of Canada. ;)
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #655 on: June 13, 2018, 12:22:10 PM »
We stopped moving forward in 1972. Canada and the rest of the First World didn't.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #656 on: June 13, 2018, 12:23:03 PM »
Why do you pick 1972?
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« Reply #657 on: June 13, 2018, 01:15:02 PM »
That's when England had fully recovered from WWII and was able to start passing us, followed shortly by a host of Western European nations. We still thought we were the best, still do, and therefore don't put any effort into improving. Sure we've had LGBTQ and marijuana progress, but even on those were are at least 10 years behind.

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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #658 on: June 13, 2018, 01:36:18 PM »
This is such an American story....
1) Medical debt;
2) Working two jobs;
3) Underpaid teacher;
4) Death by school shooting.

None of these should happen. None of them needs to happen. We can fix all of this. We just need the political will.
https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/998065938556637184

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working 2 jobs is not something that should be lumped in with a school shooting.  My dad worked 2 jobs.  many other men in my family did also.  It was considered something to be proud of.  They sacrificed and put their family ahead of their own wants (like sleep).

as for underpaid teacher, it's unfortunate but hardly a tragedy.  Supply & demand.  Everyone knows what teachers make - it's not a secret that starting pay sucks, you will struggle for many years and won't get big increases.  And yet there's a surplus of qualified candidates for every open job.  Why is that?

Update - I just read the guy's twitter who you linked - literally brainless stuff.  I guess that's what twitter is now. 
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Re: Notes on the Decline of a Great Nation (Commentary)
« Reply #659 on: June 13, 2018, 01:41:09 PM »
How many jobs did your mother work?

In the public sector, we pay for what we value as a matter of public policy, not for the labor market. If we underpay teachers, what does that say about our value system?
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