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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30240 on: February 13, 2018, 02:46:18 PM »
At this point, CAF should build Cincinnati a 6th car for free and then rotate out the existing 5 one at a time to repair the compressors. It would be a goodwill gesture and also could cover the cost of damages incurred by the city.

Not to mention that if we want to actually run our streetcars at the originally promised service levels (12 minutes peak, 15 minutes off-peak), we really should have 6 or 7 streetcars anyway instead of 5. Peak should be running 4, not 3. Off-peak should be running 3, not 2.

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30241 on: February 13, 2018, 08:21:12 PM »
In an unprecedented display of regional unity, Dayton has sent one of its Next-Gen trolleybuses down to Cincinnati to help keep the ice off the streetcar's wire! Eat your heart out, North and South Korea! ;D





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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30242 on: February 13, 2018, 08:39:55 PM »
From what I hear, the Dayton folks were happy to come down and help us out. Maybe next time Dayton buys new trolleybuses, we should buy one of the old ones they're retiring, and keep it around for precisely this purpose.

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30243 on: February 13, 2018, 08:40:55 PM »
The new Dayton trolleybuses are electric/battery vehicles.  They can apparently run for 15 miles off batteries at 50mph with a full load of passengers.  That's pretty impressive, and it's how they were able to run here without a second overhead wire. 

Anyway, trolleybus poles are heavy and rigid enough to support what's called a sleet scraper or sleet cutter shoe.  Lightweight pantographs can't handle the additional longitudinal (?) force.  Either it would damage the pantograph or it wouldn't have enough force against the wire to cut into the ice.  That said, Dayton has a bunch of extra trolley poles from their old buses, and a suggestion was made to fit one of those with a sleet scraper and mount it (properly insulated of course) to a work truck.  One could theoretically be mounted to a streetcar if there's room with all the a/c condenser fans and other stuff on the roof. 

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30244 on: February 13, 2018, 08:42:09 PM »
From what I hear, the Dayton folks were happy to come down and help us out.

Very much so.  They had that bus down here within 2 hours.

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30245 on: February 13, 2018, 08:42:11 PM »
How did they get the buses here?  According to what I have read, they can only operate for 15 miles off-wire. 

This thing looks like a bit of a put-on by the Cran-man.  Show that traditional buses work "just fine" -- even though I personally saw several of them broken down during cold weather in recent weeks. 

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30246 on: February 13, 2018, 08:43:12 PM »
I assume that the bus they sent is the dual-mode that has an internal combustion engine in it that Dayton bought for trial purposes, but I could be wrong. Some of the next-gens have ICE’s, and the other ones are battery powered.
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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30247 on: February 13, 2018, 08:48:39 PM »
^ If it was one of the electric/diesels then that would make it easier to get it here, so you're probably right.  Otherwise they'd need a flatbed, because I doubt towing one for 60 miles on I-75 is practical. 

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30248 on: February 13, 2018, 09:06:20 PM »
How did they get the buses here?  According to what I have read, they can only operate for 15 miles off-wire. 

This thing looks like a bit of a put-on by the Cran-man.  Show that traditional buses work "just fine" -- even though I personally saw several of them broken down during cold weather in recent weeks. 

Nah, Cranley and most of the city staff don't know anything about how rail or trolleybus technology actually works, so they never would've come up with the idea to pick up the phone and call Dayton. This plan was definitely hatched by someone on the streetcar staff who has experience with rail.

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30249 on: February 13, 2018, 10:11:20 PM »
Americans have a tendency to think every problem is all new and that every solution has to be all new. They also think they have to come up with a solution themselves. When people have experience, though, they contact others that are in a similar boat and ask what they would do.

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Re: Cincinnati Streetcar / Cincinnati Bell Connector News
« Reply #30250 on: February 16, 2018, 12:37:27 PM »
The Business Courier's poll this week: What grade would you give the Cincinnati Bell Connector streetcar's performance so far?

Of course, next weeks poll should be "What grade would you give the current administration's performance in ensuring the Cincinnati Bell Connector is a success?"
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