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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1170 on: October 08, 2017, 02:44:16 PM »
^how many stories will it be and how many stories is it now? 

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1171 on: October 11, 2017, 07:01:18 AM »
The new building you are seeing is five floors.  That is as tall as it will be.

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1172 on: December 04, 2017, 12:59:58 PM »
Popped over to Terrestrial last night after checking out the new trail from W25th to Edgewater. The new apartment building is coming along nicely and has a really impactful presence.





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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1173 on: December 04, 2017, 01:03:53 PM »
Building looks great. Also a tribute to our industrial past while keeping modern elements.

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1174 on: December 04, 2017, 01:44:42 PM »
WOW! I didn't know they were going full brick. I LOVE that building. Excellent addition to that development

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1175 on: December 04, 2017, 08:23:06 PM »
Just so you guys know, please stop using Photobucket. You must have a premium account to view third party photos, like the ones jws just posted. Please use Imgur or something else that can be universally seen. Otherwise people who don't have premium accounts on Photobucket just see blank photo spaces on the page like I do. Also Photobucket isn' really forgiving either. They screwed everyone over who had photo libraries on their website, so people had to pay premiums to access their photos again. Shady stuff.

Could somebody please re-up those photos so I can see them?

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1176 on: December 05, 2017, 08:48:42 AM »
Weird. I could see the three photos yesterday. Can't see them today.
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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1177 on: December 06, 2017, 08:20:56 PM »
Weird. I could see the three photos yesterday. Can't see them today.
Yeah Photobucket isn't so reliable anymore... Based on the slap upon the face they gave their users I don't think anyone should use their services.

The complex looks great! Thanks for the conversion!

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1178 on: December 07, 2017, 01:28:22 PM »
This was a couple of weeks ago...























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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1179 on: December 07, 2017, 02:34:20 PM »
Nice. Do you guys think that BP is a good possible template for future residential development around North Coast Harbor? Most people i speak with are very happy with what's going on here.

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1180 on: December 08, 2017, 03:15:33 PM »
Nice. Do you guys think that BP is a good possible template for future residential development around North Coast Harbor? Most people i speak with are very happy with what's going on here.
12 pictures and not one pedestrian.
Was this on purpose?

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1181 on: December 08, 2017, 09:49:33 PM »
I just wanted to p!ss you off.
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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1182 on: December 08, 2017, 11:14:19 PM »
Quote from: surfohio
Nice. Do you guys think that BP is a good possible template for future residential development around North Coast Harbor? Most people i speak with are very happy with what's going on here.

I'd say at the harbor the buildings should be taller AND units smaller AND have a mix of 1, 2, 3, and 4-bedrooms, AND have retail on the ground floor. without such its not a very comforting, safe, and welcoming place. Retail should be coffee shops, diner, burger place, a few upscale eating places, a chipotle, maybe some cool stores, and stores that support the housing there--like a grocery store, laundromat/dry cleaner, drug store, hardware store, at the very least.

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« Reply #1183 on: December 08, 2017, 11:39:41 PM »
Quote from: surfohio
Nice. Do you guys think that BP is a good possible template for future residential development around North Coast Harbor? Most people i speak with are very happy with what's going on here.

I'd say at the harbor the buildings should be taller AND units smaller AND have a mix of 1, 2, 3, and 4-bedrooms, AND have retail on the ground floor. without such its not a very comforting, safe, and welcoming place. Retail should be coffee shops, diner, burger place, a few upscale eating places, a chipotle, maybe some cool stores, and stores that support the housing there--like a grocery store, laundromat/dry cleaner, drug store, hardware store, at the very least.

I'd love to see more height but the airport is the issue that always comes up against it. Ground floor retail is a no-brainer.

I like that most of the BP architecture has a "coastal" look to it. Also the new bike path is a great asset that NCH can incorporate.   

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1184 on: December 13, 2017, 02:56:04 PM »
I just wanted to p!ss you off.
Ha, well I was just thinking that if people "liked" it there would be more pedestrian activity.

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1185 on: December 17, 2017, 11:45:30 AM »
http://batteryparkcleveland.com/available-townhomes/


Sales billboard for The Lakeside  at Battery Park now up. (The parcel between 70th and 73rd at Fr. Caruso)


"Starting at $499,000"    ..... wow.

Makes me glad I got in 100 feet away in 1998  :)

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« Reply #1186 on: December 20, 2017, 09:18:15 AM »
I completely forgot this place existed.

The million dollar question....

"We offered great solutions for the community," he said. "Unfortunately after a year and a half we could not hit our projections. Still unsure why."

Battery Park restaurant Vita Urbana closes

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/12/vita_urbana_restaurant_closes.html#incart_river_home

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1187 on: December 20, 2017, 10:49:07 AM »
^I'm in Battery Park 2-3x a month and I never knew this place existed

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1188 on: December 20, 2017, 11:12:00 AM »
Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??
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« Reply #1189 on: December 20, 2017, 11:30:03 AM »
Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??

From the article the owner stated the business was intended to cater more to residents.

I wonder if there are a significant number of BP residents that are averse to outside visitors.


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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1190 on: December 20, 2017, 11:31:43 AM »
Are there enough residents within BP to support a business like this?  That seems like a poor business model if you ask me.  Perhaps why they are closing.

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« Reply #1191 on: December 20, 2017, 01:16:38 PM »
This was a nice little cafe/bar with a mini-market in the back.  I stopped in a few times, but unless you were is a huge rush, there wasn't a great reason to visit the market portion.  It seemed to be stocked inconsistently, and there wasn't a huge variety there.  As a beer/wine store, you have much better selection up the road at Banter or (slightly further) Astoria.

These neighborhood market concepts seem to be tough to launch - even the market selection at Astoria was scaled back pretty early on in favor of more tables. Hopefully some added density around BP will make it more feasible for neighborhood businesses to succeed in the future.


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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1192 on: December 20, 2017, 01:23:25 PM »
Are there enough residents within BP to support a business like this?  That seems like a poor business model if you ask me.  Perhaps why they are closing.

This is exactly Mike's problem.  he saw BP as some sort of unlimited revenue stream from its residents, instead of building a business model for the masses (like Banter, Happy Dog, Brewnuts, Local West).  Mike is a really good guy, but i dont think conceptually he knows how to serve an ubran area

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1193 on: December 20, 2017, 01:24:59 PM »
Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??

From the article the owner stated the business was intended to cater more to residents.

I wonder if there are a significant number of BP residents that are averse to outside visitors.



Most in BP liked Mike.  But in reality there are only a couple hundred residents in BP proper.  Assuming not every one of them will go to your place every day, thats tough to keep doors open.  Nobody is coming to his place from the burbs as a destination and the younger people in the area didnt really like the concept...its very baby boomerish

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« Reply #1194 on: December 20, 2017, 01:57:28 PM »
Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??

From the article the owner stated the business was intended to cater more to residents.

I wonder if there are a significant number of BP residents that are averse to outside visitors.



Most in BP liked Mike.  But in reality there are only a couple hundred residents in BP proper.  Assuming not every one of them will go to your place every day, thats tough to keep doors open.  Nobody is coming to his place from the burbs as a destination and the younger people in the area didnt really like the concept...its very baby boomerish

I met him back when he opened the wine bar, he was really nice. I was just wondering if this latest endeavor was a result of polling the residents on what they wanted, ie a fairly insular place that specifically wasn't a destination spot.

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« Reply #1195 on: December 20, 2017, 02:24:13 PM »
Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??

From the article the owner stated the business was intended to cater more to residents.

I wonder if there are a significant number of BP residents that are averse to outside visitors.



Most in BP liked Mike.  But in reality there are only a couple hundred residents in BP proper.  Assuming not every one of them will go to your place every day, thats tough to keep doors open.  Nobody is coming to his place from the burbs as a destination and the younger people in the area didnt really like the concept...its very baby boomerish

I met him back when he opened the wine bar, he was really nice. I was just wondering if this latest endeavor was a result of polling the residents on what they wanted, ie a fairly insular place that specifically wasn't a destination spot.

First and foremost, he moved to the shoreway building because rent was much cheaper than it was from Vintage at the powerhouse.  he loves the area, as the article states and he would openly tell you.  I just dont think he thought of the world outside of BP.  There was no resident polling, at least when i lived there

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1196 on: December 20, 2017, 05:27:13 PM »
Vita Urbana was doomed from day 1

The place had the vibe of a morning coffee-shop lobby market in the ground level a Marriott in some resort.    The offerings in the min-mart almost seemed like they came out of a randomizer.... like a huge amount of the cooler dedicated to different flavors of sauerkraut but no eggs. 


I've said it before in this thread.... the places north of Detroit/ in BP (as opposed to the new places up on Detroit) that seem to be either poorly managed, poorly planned, conceptually flawed or all of the above.   I can't put a finger on why.

As a resident I very much hope for some success in the future.
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« Reply #1197 on: December 20, 2017, 05:44:20 PM »
Seems like a traditional small grocer or convenience store might do better, and might help anchor other businesses with the traffic it brings.

Never heard of it either. Where was it?

"Still unsure why"? Maybe a lack of advertising, perhaps??
From the article the owner stated the business was intended to cater more to residents.

I wonder if there are a significant number of BP residents that are averse to outside visitors.

There's a conceptual tension in the way this has been set up from the start.  Prime urban location but every move seems calculated to minimize the urbanity.  It's even marketed as "not too urban!"

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/12/battery_park_townhouse_offers.html

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1198 on: July 01, 2018, 09:35:25 AM »
I completely forgot this place existed.

The million dollar question....

"We offered great solutions for the community," he said. "Unfortunately after a year and a half we could not hit our projections. Still unsure why."

Battery Park restaurant Vita Urbana closes

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/12/vita_urbana_restaurant_closes.html#incart_river_home


Rumors floating around the neighborhood that tenants are close to signing on both the Vida Urbana spot and might already be a done deal to come in to the Graffiti (I'm old enough that I still call it Snickers) spot.

(Cha/ YOLO still fallow)

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Re: Cleveland: Battery Park
« Reply #1199 on: July 01, 2018, 10:49:15 AM »
^ ive really enjoyed the 3-4 times Iíve been to terrestrial brewing. Have they been regarded as good neighbors  in the community Dergon?