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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1710 on: July 29, 2018, 03:08:40 PM »
GAME #23:  https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2018-07-28-new-york-red-bulls-vs-columbus-crew-sc/recap

https://www.massivereport.com/2018/7/28/17626206/columbus-crew-sc-holds-its-three-goal-lead-defeats-new-york-red-bulls-3-2-mls-2018


The Crew got their second straight 3-2 victory in a wild first-half vs second-half battle with NYRB last night.  Columbus scored first and early in the 7th minute off a free-kick from the left corner and a nifty set play.  The Santos kick was lofted over the clot of players in the 18-yd box to an open Mullins right of goal, who headed it back to Mensah, who had separated from the pack.  Mensah's kick caught the Red Bull defense by surprise and NYRB goalkeeper Robles was unable to stop it.

NYRB almost equalized off a sizzling header off a corner-kick that All-Star Crew keeper Zach Steffen made a diving save on in the 18th minute.  Instead, it was C-BUS who scored next in the 23rd minute when NYRB tried to high-press the Crew.  Valenzuela lofted a ball to Afful at midfield, who quickly kicked it onto a well-timed run by Mullins who caught the Red Bull back-line flat footed.  Mullins was joined by Zardes on a rare 2-on-1.  Zardes' run attracted the lone defender to prevent a cross-pass, while Mullins went one-on-one with the keeper - and then zinged a far-post finish to give the Crew a 2-0 lead.

That two-goal lead become a three-goal lead in the 31st minute.  A well-struck Santos corner kick targeted Williams at the near post.  Williams barely missed the flick-on header but the defending NYRB player flicked it on instead to give the Crew a 3-0 lead.  With the Crew leading 3-0 going into the second half, NYRB subbed in their leading scorer Bradley Wright-Phillips and dynamic Brazilian midfielder Kaku - who they were hoping to rest after both playing a mid-week game and this being the Red Bulls third game in eight days.

The infusion of offensive talent paid quick dividends for NYRB in the second half.  In the 50th minute, NYRB got their first goal off a crossing pass into the 6-yd box to Wright-Phillips that bounced off Mensah's leg.  NYRB got a second goal off a Crew turnover in their own zone that Kaku lofted onto the edge of the 6-yd box that was headed in to narrow the Crew lead down to only one-goal at the 69th minute.

After that the Crew regained some of the second half momentum, but still had to weather a few more NYRB storms for the victory.  Most notably, an 85th minute melee in front of the Crew net.  Wright-Phillips received a pass inside 18-yd box guarded by Abubakar.  Steffen dove forward for the ball and made a clutch stop of BWP's shot, which then  deflected to an open NYRB player while both Steffen and BWP tumbled to the turf.  The NYRB shot beat Steffen, but hit BWP to prevent a tying goal(!), then Abubakar cleared the ball to safety to preserve the 3-2 road victory for the Crew.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1711 on: July 29, 2018, 06:00:34 PM »
Last night's road victory gives Columbus their 10th win of the season.  The Crew are on a two-game winning streak upswing headed into their bye week.  The next Crew game is a home match against Houston on August 11.  Hopefully the break will allow Higuain's back to heal up (he missed to last two games with back spasms) and allow the Crew to focus on a stretch run for the playoffs.

Below are the Eastern Conference Standings going into today's matches.  Columbus is solidly in playoff position at fourth-place.  Though 11 games still remain in the 2018 regular-season, barring either a massive winning streak or massive losing streak, it seems likely the Crew may stay in the four-spot for the post-season.  The three teams ahead - Atlanta, NYCFC, NYRB - are either too far ahead in points and/or with multiple games-in-hand to be overtaken by the Crew.  The teams behind - Montreal, New England, Philly - are too far behind in points to catch up to the Crew.  Although the Revs could make a run if they can win both games-in-hand they hold over the Crew:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1712 on: July 30, 2018, 11:06:11 AM »
Although the Crew team won't play their next MLS game until August 11, Crew fans won't get to enjoy a bye-week because some important dates regarding the Crew franchise will occur before this next game:


http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180727/crew-sc--austin-stadium-deal-now-includes-550k-year-in-rent

Over the weekend, a term sheet between the City of Austin and Precourt Sports Ventures was published as part of the agenda for Austin's City Council Meeting to be held on August 9.  The term sheet is the result of negotiations between PSV and Austin city officials.  The above Dispatch article details this term sheet, as follows:

--- PSV would enter into a 20-year lease term for the proposed McKalla Place stadium location in north Austin.  Additionally, there would be three 10-year renewal options and, starting with the sixth year, PSV would pay $550,000 in rent.

--- PSV would still be exempt from paying any property taxes (as was originally proposed). 

--- PSV would provide up to one acre of the 24-acre McKalla Place site to allow for a third party to develop up to 130 affordable housing units.

--- PSV would agree to make more than $4.7 million in cash contributions to affordable housing as part of its proposed $95.8 million in community benefits over 25 years.

--- Another negotiating point has been adding a rail station along the eastern edge of the property.  Under this term sheet, PSV would not be obligated to pay for one, estimated at $13 million.  The term sheet states that PSV and City would “work together to explore third party and other financing sources.”

--- The term sheet also calls for PSV to enter into a non-relocation agreement.


-- On August 1, a special meeting has been scheduled that will include a presentation regarding these potential agreements between PSV and the City.  Public comment will be permitted at this meeting.

-- On August 7, another discussion will take place during a council work session.

-- The August 9 council agenda item currently does not include discussion of alternative redevelopment proposals for McKalla Place.  None have been submitted to date, but two firms have indicated they would submit proposals before an Aug. 3 deadline.  The Dispatch is reporting that these alternative proposals to redevelop McKalla Place would have an opportunity to present at the Aug. 7 council work session.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1713 on: August 01, 2018, 09:08:07 PM »
Austin will hold its special public meeting later tonight on the potential agreements (i.e. the term sheet) between PSV and the City.  And I can't wait to see the twitter reports about it in the morning!

But until then, here are some articles and analysis about the recently released term sheet:

-- Massive Report has a recap - and direct link to - the new PSV/Austin term sheet, with a very detailed comparison to the previous terms between PSV and Austin about the stadium site:  https://www.massivereport.com/2018/7/29/17627554/precourt-sports-venture-releases-new-term-sheet-mckalla-place-stadium-august-1-meeting-for-review

-- Miki Turner (aka The Soccer Esquire) linking to a hot take from Austin attorney Bill Aleshire about the term sheet.  Aleshire has a track record of suing and winning lawsuits against the City of Austin for "inappropriately using" public funds and "inappropriately giving away" tax dollars - and has said he might sue again if Austin City Council approved this sweetheart stadium deal:   https://twitter.com/turneresq/status/1023926504462286849


-- Field of Schemes delivered its customary hot take on the new term sheet.  Best take: "(Precourt) would pay rent, but it’s not much: $550,000 a year, not starting until the sixth year of the lease ... but Precourt is demanding his pound of flesh in return, as he now wants the city to chip in $975,000 over years 6 and 7 of the lease, and $125,000 per year afterwards, toward a capital repair fund.":  http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2018/07/30/13989/precourt-offers-to-pay-austin-more-rent-if-itll-pay-some-of-his-repair-costs-still-thinks-paying-your-property-tax-is-for-chumps/
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1714 on: August 01, 2018, 09:09:13 PM »
Excellent back-to-back columns from the Dispatch's Michael Arace:

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180730/michael-arace--wrangling-heats-up-for-crew-stadium-deal-in-austin

Quote from: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180730/michael-arace--wrangling-heats-up-for-crew-stadium-deal-in-austin
In any case, the game is afoot.  Last week, a term sheet negotiated between the Austin city manager and PSV was released.  The term sheet is the baseline of an agreement between the two parties.  It’s time to make sausage.

PSV sweetened its offer.  Among other concessions, it is now willing to pay rent beginning in year six.  PSV is employing the Overton Window, in which a radical proposal is made incrementally less crazy — and thus appears to be more palatable.  That’s politics.

PSV concedes to pay rent at some point.  Model citizens!  PSV is dead-set against paying a dime for property taxes or transportation-infrastructure upgrades.  Parking?  They promise to worry about that later.  Model citizens!

The Austin City Council, which had little or nothing to do with the drafting of the term sheet, will open their chambers for public discussion on Wednesday.  The council has a work session scheduled for Aug. 7 and a vote scheduled for Aug. 9.  It’s crunch time.

The “Modell” lawsuit lodged by the city of Columbus and the state of Ohio remains “tolled” (paused) for at least another 10 days, or maybe longer.  The suit is looming larger over everyone concerned.  An injunction to halt the move, temporarily or otherwise, is now a realistic possibility.  The case has the potential to drag on for years.

Twenty-three years ago, Columbus was the first city in MLS history to sell 10,000 season tickets.  On Monday, #SaveTheCrew announced that it had surpassed 10,000 pledges for season tickets — with the proviso that Precourt is no longer the owner.

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180731/michael-arace--columbus-has-everything-that-mls-commissioner-wants-so-why-move-crew

Quote from: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180731/michael-arace--columbus-has-everything-that-mls-commissioner-wants-so-why-move-crew
#SaveTheCrew has lined up more than 10,500 pledges for season tickets with the proviso that Precourt be cut out of ownership; and this grassroots movement is backed by more than 450 local businesses.  They even have organized to fix up and clean Mapfre Stadium, which Precourt treats like a highway underpass.

Alex Fischer, president and CEO of the Columbus Partnership — which is working to line up local investors to buy the Crew and keep the team in Columbus — had a moment Tuesday.  Fischer had a moment like tens of thousands of Crew fans have had tens of thousands of time since October, when Precourt first uttered the words “parallel path.”

The Crew has never had local ownership, not in its 23 years.  That is a problem Fischer — working closely with Garber's deputy Mark Abbott — is trying to rectify.  Fischer said that the Partnership has been “abundantly and consistently clear that its sole desire is to work toward purchasing Crew SC.”

Translation: Columbus already has a team, not to mention a lawsuit, and it will fight for what is right.

The overarching irony is that Columbus has the money, the prospective owners and, very likely, the land for a new Downtown stadium, all lined up, ready to go.  This is unlike a number of cities over which Garber swoons.  This exit plan would be hilarious if it wasn’t craven.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1715 on: August 01, 2018, 09:10:00 PM »
Alternate development proposals for McKalla Place that can be added into the PSV stadium mix:  http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180731/crew-cuts-report-austin-developer-submits-two-proposals-for-mckalla-place

Quote from: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180731/crew-cuts-report-austin-developer-submits-two-proposals-for-mckalla-place
One Capella proposal, the Austin Business Journal reported, would call for a mixed-use development at McKalla Place with a soccer-specific stadium being built at Circuit of the Americas, the Formula One track in Austin.  A United Soccer League team, which will announce its team name, coach and several player signings Aug. 3, is set to begin play at COTA next March.

A second Capella proposal includes a soccer stadium at McKalla Place along with “parking, an office tower, green space and mixed-use and residential development” at the site,” according to the ABJ report.  It’s not immediately clear whether PSV would be open to working with Capella on a plan for the site.

The proposals are not expected to be the only ones submitted. Real estate developer Marcus Whitfield has said he and partner John Chen will submit a proposal for a mixed-use development at McKalla Place by the Aug. 3 deadline.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1718 on: August 02, 2018, 12:31:09 PM »
http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180801/crew-sc--austin-council-still-has-concerns-over-stadium-plan

From last night's special public meeting later tonight on the potential agreements (i.e. the term sheet) between PSV and the City of Austin:

-- Some council members saw the term sheet, released Friday, as a step forward from PSV’s initial proposal in June, but most still raised issues they would like to see addressed before council has to vote Aug. 9.

-- Council member Ora Houston raised concerns over whether a lawsuit brought by Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine and Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein against PSV and Major League Soccer will force Austin to take on any liability. (The lawsuit was filed to ensure PSV and MLS complied with a state law requiring a team receiving public money to either receive permission or else provide six months’ notice and give locals a chance to purchase the team before leaving.)  “Taking this vote on the 9th, before a decision is made (in the lawsuit), is like getting remarried before the divorce is final,” Houston said.

-- Paying for a rail station near the stadium site remained an issue.  Council member Delia Garza proposed that PSV (which under the term sheet would not be required to pay for the station) provide $3 million toward it and include a $1 transportation surcharge per ticket.

-- Benefits to the community was questioned, too.  Although the term sheet listed community benefits provided by PSV that would total an estimated $95,879,908 over 25 years, several council members noted a lack of specifics.  “Some of what was most exciting to me about this potential proposal will be in the community benefit agreement,” Mayor Pro Tem Kathie Tovo said.  “As several of my colleagues noted, that’s not before it in a concrete fashion. ... I’m uncomfortable with not reviewing those final details because, to me, they’re critical elements of why I would support it.”

-- Council member Leslie Pool reiterated several questions she still has for PSV.  “We need extensive financial and other information (from PSV) as part of our decision-making process,” she said. “Are any of the entities that we might contract with going to be good and faithful partners for the city of Austin and its residents?”
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1719 on: August 02, 2018, 12:41:01 PM »
obviously im not following this too closely, but i just read this on espn — made it seem like sacramento was in play for the crew to land in too? is that move off the table now?


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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1720 on: August 02, 2018, 01:02:56 PM »
obviously im not following this too closely, but i just read this on espn — made it seem like sacramento was in play for the crew to land in too? is that move off the table now?

https://es.pn/2uU3omf

Please, this is complicated and unclear enough without bringing another city into this(!)  But this was somewhat discussed upthread.  As the ESPN article states: "...the potential relocation of Columbus Crew SC to Austin.  Should that fall through, it's entirely possible that MLS will push Columbus to relocate to Sacramento."

However, Precourt's lease contract with Mapfre Stadium/State of Ohio only has an out-clause to move to Austin.  Otherwise, he would need to wait for the current lease to expire in 2024.  Of course, he could still move or try to break that lease.  But that's loads more bad PR for MLS.

Another Sacramento scenario is that MLS could buy-out Precourt's Columbus Crew ownership and Precourt could then join an ownership group in Sacramento for an expansion team (apparently they need more ownership money to finalize MLS2Sac).  Then local Columbus owners could purchase the Crew and keep them in Columbus.  But both Sacramento scenarios are more rumor then solid reporting, as of now.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1721 on: August 02, 2018, 01:07:33 PM »
http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180801/crew-cuts-judge-orders-update-in-14-days-in-crew-lawsuit

Update on the #SaveTheCrew lawsuit:

-- An order filed late Tuesday by Franklin County Court of Common Pleas Judge Jeffrey M. Brown will require updates on the status of negotiations to purchase Crew SC jointly filed every 14 days by attorneys representing Columbus, the State of Ohio, Major League Soccer and Crew operator Precourt Sports Ventures.

-- Last month, the court filed a protective order that will keep sensitive information, including information used in discovery, from public view.  The status updates will continue in the spirit of that protective order and be filed under seal “unless the parties stipulate that a specific status report may be publicly filed.”  The court may also unseal a status report and order it publicly filed “upon motion and for good cause shown,” the order read.

-- Columbus and Ohio’s lawsuit, which is based on Ohio Revised Code 9.67, also known as the Art Modell Law, remains in a toll, or pause, until at least next week.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1722 on: August 02, 2018, 01:14:36 PM »
thanks for explaining colombo & sorry i did not see that link and scenario had been discussed.

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1723 on: August 02, 2018, 01:22:02 PM »
thanks for explaining colombo & sorry i did not see that link and scenario had been discussed.

No problem.  Lots of stuff can get buried/missed in these lengthy threads.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1724 on: August 03, 2018, 01:25:41 PM »
With everything that's currently going on in the Columbus sports scene, I'm pleased to report a nice bit of good news for the Crew:

https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/2/17609222/justin-meram-returns-to-columbus-crew-sc-in-trade-with-orlando-city

Attacking winger Justin Meram is returning to the Columbus Crew after spending 2018 in Orlando.  Columbus traded Meram to Orlando for $750,000 in Targeted Allocation Money, $300,000 in General Allocation Money, plus a 2019 international slot before the start of the 2018 MLS season.

Orlando thought that acquiring Meram would a move that would vault Orlando into the 2018 playoffs.  Instead, Orlando had a mid-season 9-game losing swoon that has them at 9th-place and way below the Eastern playoff line.  That 9-game losing streak got the Orlando Head Coach fired and saw Meram relegated to the bench and then completely off the gameday-18.

Yesterday, Columbus reacquired Meram from Orlando in exchange for $750,000 in Targeted Allocation Money and the 2019 international slot.  So, in essence, Orlando paid Columbus $300,000 to rent him for 2018!

Despite his struggles in Orlando, Meram should be a welcome addition to the Crew lineup.  Meram is an obvious good fit for Berhalter's attacking system.  And the Crew could use Meram's production on the attacking left wing.  Offensive production coming from Pedro Santos, Niko Hansen, Cristian Martinez and Mike Grella on the wings has been lacking this year.  If Meram can recapture his previous goal-scoring ability for the Crew and add that to Zardes' goal-scoring production, the team will have a potent lineup for a strong 2018 late-season and playoff run.
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1725 on: August 06, 2018, 03:59:11 PM »
Another update on the #SaveTheCrew lawsuit - aka The Modell Law - from the Dispatch's Crew beat reporter Andrew Erickson (who I am sure is writing much more Commons Pleas Court news that he ever thought he would while covering an MLS team!!):


Crew SC | Judge orders another pause in lawsuit to stop move to Austin

An order Monday from Franklin County Court of Common Pleas Judge Jeffrey M. Brown ensures the city of Columbus and State of Ohio lawsuit against Major League Soccer and Crew operator Precourt Sports Ventures will extend at least into September.

Brown ordered the tolling period, or pause, on the case be extended 44 days.  The initial toll, which came in May as a part of an order that also delayed discovery and a ruling on the constitutionality of Ohio Revised Code 9.67 — the basis of the lawsuit — lasted 90 days and expired Monday.  (The 44-day extension comes after an appeal by PSV and MLS on May 14 of Brown’s May 8 order to toll the case 90 days.  That appeal was dismissed by the Tenth District Court of Appeals on June 21.)

Brown also scheduled oral arguments on PSV and MLS’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit for at 2 p.m. Sept. 7.  Each side will have 45 minutes for arguments, Brown wrote. The hearing will be the first of its kind since Ohio and Columbus filed their lawsuit in March.

It is not immediately clear how the extension of the tolling period might impact PSV’s efforts to explore relocation of Crew SC to Austin, Texas, after the 2018 season.  Austin City Council is set to vote Thursday on a term sheet for a stadium at the city-owned McKalla Place parcel in north Austin.

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180806/crew-sc--judge-orders-another-pause-in-lawsuit-to-stop-move-to-austin
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1726 on: August 06, 2018, 04:35:08 PM »
Another update on the #SaveTheCrew lawsuit - aka The Modell Law - from the Dispatch's Crew beat reporter Andrew Erickson (who I am sure is writing much more Commons Pleas Court news that he ever thought he would while covering an MLS team!!):


Crew SC | Judge orders another pause in lawsuit to stop move to Austin

An order Monday from Franklin County Court of Common Pleas Judge Jeffrey M. Brown ensures the city of Columbus and State of Ohio lawsuit against Major League Soccer and Crew operator Precourt Sports Ventures will extend at least into September.

Brown ordered the tolling period, or pause, on the case be extended 44 days.  The initial toll, which came in May as a part of an order that also delayed discovery and a ruling on the constitutionality of Ohio Revised Code 9.67 — the basis of the lawsuit — lasted 90 days and expired Monday.  (The 44-day extension comes after an appeal by PSV and MLS on May 14 of Brown’s May 8 order to toll the case 90 days.  That appeal was dismissed by the Tenth District Court of Appeals on June 21.)

Brown also scheduled oral arguments on PSV and MLS’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit for at 2 p.m. Sept. 7.  Each side will have 45 minutes for arguments, Brown wrote. The hearing will be the first of its kind since Ohio and Columbus filed their lawsuit in March.

It is not immediately clear how the extension of the tolling period might impact PSV’s efforts to explore relocation of Crew SC to Austin, Texas, after the 2018 season.  Austin City Council is set to vote Thursday on a term sheet for a stadium at the city-owned McKalla Place parcel in north Austin.

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180806/crew-sc--judge-orders-another-pause-in-lawsuit-to-stop-move-to-austin

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1727 on: August 06, 2018, 08:44:24 PM »
#electionSZN

Jeffrey Brown is a judge of the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas in Ohio.  He won a first term in the general election on November 8, 2016 and is serving a term that ends in 2023:  https://ballotpedia.org/Jeffrey_Brown_(Ohio)

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1728 on: August 09, 2018, 06:28:14 PM »
Some updates heading into D-Day in Austin:

-- The four Austin council members that have been opposed to the PSV McKalla Place stadium deal are still opposed to it - only maybe more so after last week's public meeting and council work session.

-- The number of alternative development proposals submitted for McKalla Place is now up to 6!

-- And the Austin council members on the fence are asking about the Ohio Modell Lawsuit, and want to know if this would hinder the Crew's move to Austin - PSV says "don't worry about it" - which has seemed less than comforting to those members.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/08/08/austin-council-member-not-changing-stance-on-crew.html

https://www.massivereport.com/2018/8/8/17664064/group-of-austin-city-council-members-offer-amendments-to-the-mckalla-place-term-sheet-mls-2018
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1729 on: August 09, 2018, 06:28:37 PM »
Below is a recap from the Dispatch going into today's Austin council meeting.  This really is a D-Day for PSV-MLS if they want MLS2ATX.  Despite the announcement 10 months ago, this move to Austin is not a "done deal".  Even if Austin approves this McKalla Place item tonight, it still isn't a done deal.  This item is one of those "agreement to further negotiate" or "agreement to have future agreements" deals.  It would be a vital step for MLS2ATX, but still not a done deal.

On the other hand, if City Council doesn't approve PSV's item, then that might kill the Crew move to Austin.  So PSV has almost everything on the line tonight.  As it stands going into tonight's meeting, four of the 11 council members are absolutely for MLS2ATX; four council members are absolutely against MLS2ATX; and the other three are somewhere in between.  It seems likely that PSV can eke out a 6-5 vote in favor of their "agreement to have future agreements" - but there's no guarantee!

http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180809/crew-sc--big-decisions-loom-at-austin-city-council-meeting-tonight


EDIT: Just read the Soccer Esquire's council member by council member analysis of tonight's MLS2ATX vote - he predicts a shocking 5-6 defeat for PSV!  God I hope he's right!!

https://socceresq.com/2018/08/09/handicapping-the-mls2atx-vote-tonight/
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1730 on: August 09, 2018, 10:11:26 PM »
Below is a recap from the Dispatch going into today's Austin council meeting.  This really is a D-Day for PSV-MLS if they want MLS2ATX.  Despite the announcement 10 months ago, this move to Austin is not a "done deal".  Even if Austin approves this McKalla Place item tonight, it still isn't a done deal.  This item is one of those "agreement to further negotiate" or "agreement to have future agreements" deals.  It would be a vital step for MLS2ATX, but still not a done deal.

On the other hand, if City Council doesn't approve PSV's item, then that might kill the Crew move to Austin.  So PSV has almost everything on the line tonight.  As it stands going into tonight's meeting, four of the 11 council members are absolutely for MLS2ATX; four council members are absolutely against MLS2ATX; and the other three are somewhere in between.  It seems likely that PSV can eke out a 6-5 vote in favor of their "agreement to have future agreements" - but there's no guarantee!

http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180809/crew-sc--big-decisions-loom-at-austin-city-council-meeting-tonight


EDIT: Just read the Soccer Esquire's council member by council member analysis of tonight's MLS2ATX vote - he predicts a shocking 5-6 defeat for PSV!  God I hope he's right!!

https://socceresq.com/2018/08/09/handicapping-the-mls2atx-vote-tonight/

I am not a fan of this trend of calling your city by the airport code.  ATX?  Just call it Austin!  I saw this a lot in Portland, OR as well.  It strikes me as a silly way to try to be "edgy". 

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1731 on: August 10, 2018, 10:45:11 AM »
I will continue pointing out the lack of "doneness" in this MLS2ATX "done deal" until it becomes a done deal.

Guess what?  After last night's Austin Council meeting, its still not done.  Below is the end of an excellent Soccer Esq live blog of last night's meeting:  https://socceresq.com/2018/08/09/austin-city-council-votes-on-mls2atx-live-blog/

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« Reply #1732 on: August 10, 2018, 10:53:43 AM »
Is this the 2nd or 3rd time they're going to have to postpone the MLS deadline?  I mean, don't they have to have a hard deadline at some point for next season?  (Or is the deadline for the 2020 season?)

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« Reply #1733 on: August 10, 2018, 12:13:01 PM »
#SaveTheCrew -- https://savethecrew.com/

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1734 on: August 10, 2018, 12:14:19 PM »
However, the best may have been PSV's lobbyist Richard Suttle uttering these two words and starting a new internet meme:
#WeBlundered -- https://twitter.com/Morgan_Hughes/status/1027887841538437121

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« Reply #1735 on: August 10, 2018, 01:58:10 PM »
I had a lot of fun last night following along on Twitter. Sounds like the mayor was all for approving immediately without any discussion, and council wants a lot of changes to the terms before they will consider it.

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1736 on: August 10, 2018, 02:11:05 PM »
Below is a recap from the Dispatch going into today's Austin council meeting.  This really is a D-Day for PSV-MLS if they want MLS2ATX.  Despite the announcement 10 months ago, this move to Austin is not a "done deal".  Even if Austin approves this McKalla Place item tonight, it still isn't a done deal.  This item is one of those "agreement to further negotiate" or "agreement to have future agreements" deals.  It would be a vital step for MLS2ATX, but still not a done deal.

On the other hand, if City Council doesn't approve PSV's item, then that might kill the Crew move to Austin.  So PSV has almost everything on the line tonight.  As it stands going into tonight's meeting, four of the 11 council members are absolutely for MLS2ATX; four council members are absolutely against MLS2ATX; and the other three are somewhere in between.  It seems likely that PSV can eke out a 6-5 vote in favor of their "agreement to have future agreements" - but there's no guarantee!

http://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20180809/crew-sc--big-decisions-loom-at-austin-city-council-meeting-tonight


EDIT: Just read the Soccer Esquire's council member by council member analysis of tonight's MLS2ATX vote - he predicts a shocking 5-6 defeat for PSV!  God I hope he's right!!

https://socceresq.com/2018/08/09/handicapping-the-mls2atx-vote-tonight/

I am not a fan of this trend of calling your city by the airport code.  ATX?  Just call it Austin!  I saw this a lot in Portland, OR as well.  It strikes me as a silly way to try to be "edgy". 


Yeah, but then Zanesville gets to be ZZV like ZZ Top. Which is cool.

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1737 on: August 10, 2018, 02:29:56 PM »
The Airport reference is a v liberal move. PDX makes no sense - just like 80% of Portland's residents.

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« Reply #1738 on: August 10, 2018, 03:00:28 PM »
When I see ATX I always think Atlanta first.


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« Reply #1739 on: August 10, 2018, 03:05:59 PM »
When I see ATX I always think Atlanta first.



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