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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1470 on: February 04, 2018, 03:58:10 PM »
Austin had their "Protect Guerrero Park Rally" yesterday.  Which was noted by the #SaveTheCrew movement:


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« Reply #1471 on: February 04, 2018, 03:58:26 PM »
^ Which is also causing the #mls2atx folks to show they are worried.  How worried?  They are now trying to claim that its not really Austin residents showing up oppose PSV and save their parkland.  Which led to this priceless twitter exchange:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1472 on: February 05, 2018, 12:59:18 PM »
Another update from Austin on the PSV stadium site search:

MLS stadium search gets delayed again, pushing it to spring or summer
By Kevin Lyttle - Austin American-Statesman
Posted: 6:24 p.m. Friday, February 02, 2018


More than 3½ months after Columbus Crew SC ownership publicly cast its eyes on Austin for 2019, the potential move seems as far away as ever.  What’s followed is a series of stops and starts and a general lack of clarity.  The only folks celebrating so far are neighborhood groups and activists working to strike parkland from the list of potential Major League Soccer stadium sites.  They were successful in derailing Precourt Sports Venture’s dream site, Butler Shores Metropolitan Park, before the debate even began.

On Saturday, the Save Our Parkland forces are rallying at Roy G. Guerrero Metropolitan Park, another desirable site identified by city staff Dec. 12, to remove it from the dwindling list of options.  A group called Friends of Austin Parkland has started a petition to eliminate Guerrero.  A city memorandum Friday requested a postponement of the soccer agenda item at the Feb. 15 council meeting and delayed a full vetting of any stadium site for an additional three months.  That extends the process into late spring/early summer.
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Three delays have followed since Nov. 9 when the City Council unanimously passed a resolution asking staff to produce a list of possible stadium and training facility options. ... The next meeting where soccer could be discussed is March 1, meaning June 14 is the absolute earliest a stadium solution could be ironed out and fit the council schedule.  If parkland is in play, a November election is likely in the cards.

The Crew, already training for weeks, opens the regular season March 3, so its fate will be up in the air long after the MLS’ regular season kicks off.

MORE:  http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/soccer/mls-stadium-search-gets-delayed-again-pushing-spring-summer/2HoN0tEdE6tWJvMIyaV5DP/
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1473 on: February 05, 2018, 01:00:03 PM »
Meanwhile in Columbus, #SaveTheCrew announced the sponsor for their community jersey:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1475 on: February 07, 2018, 01:52:31 PM »
Another report about yesterday's multi-year agreement from Columbia Gas with Crew SC, and an interesting statement from the Columbia Gas director of communications about why they did this sponsorship deal:

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180206/crew-cuts-crew-extends-partnership-with-columbia-gas-of-ohio

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1476 on: February 09, 2018, 03:19:17 PM »
Tickets are now on sale for an updated and extended #SaveTheCrew documentary to be shown March 9th at the Gateway Film Center:

http://gatewayfilmcenter.org/save-the-crew-the-battle-for-columbus/

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1477 on: February 12, 2018, 12:46:28 PM »
^ Tickets have been selling well for the updated and extended #SaveTheCrew documentary to be shown March 9th at the Gateway Film Center:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1478 on: February 12, 2018, 12:47:01 PM »
Over the weekend on Saturday:  The Schott sold out for its 6PM OSU basketball game - then Nationwide Arena sold out for its 7PM CBJ hockey game.  Over 37,000+ in two buildings at the same time.  Twitter noticed and rightly mocked @thesoccerdon and @APrecourt for their previous statements about the viability of the Columbus sports market:





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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1479 on: February 12, 2018, 12:48:31 PM »
Meanwhile the #SaveTheCrew movement just keeps growing.  They announced another sponsor for their community jersey today:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1480 on: February 13, 2018, 01:01:09 PM »
More great work from #SaveTheCrew to keep the movement growing: https://savethecrew.com/allies



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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1481 on: February 16, 2018, 01:12:24 PM »
Taking a break from #SaveTheCrew to post about the on-the-field 2018 Columbus Crew:

Seems hard to believe, but the team has been in training camp for just over three full weeks and they've played a couple of exhibition matches in Hawaii.  Starting this weekend, they'll be playing in the Carolina Challenge Cup in Charleston, SC.  Below is the schedule for the Crew's upcoming matches - this Saturday vs. Atlanta United, next Wednesday vs. Charleston, next Saturday vs. Minnesota United.



The Crew's first MLS game is at Toronto on March 3rd and the Crew's first home game is on March 10th against Montreal.

Below is an excellent offseason recap guide from The Massive reddit feed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMassive/comments/7kv9py/20172018_columbus_crew_sc_offseason_guide/
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1482 on: February 21, 2018, 12:39:53 AM »
Experts Weigh in on Possible Crew Stadium Locations



Dodge Park (Franklinton) – The city-owned parcel that holds a recreation center, swimming pool and skateboard park is a little over 18 acres, but adjacent land owned by the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority (CMHA) and the Ohio Department of Transportation could potentially add another eight acres to the total. The CMHA land is slated to be developed eventually as a future phase of the River & Rich project, which is currently under construction.

Lou Berliner Sports Park (Southwest Columbus) – A huge site currently used mostly for softball fields, it sits across the Scioto River from the Brewery District and Merion Village.

Mapfre Stadium (Ohio Expo Center and Fairgrounds) – The current home of the Crew SC takes up about 15 acres (that includes the stadium and a small amount of green space surrounding it, as well as the buildings containing the ticket booths). Many more acres of state-owned surface parking surround the stadium, as well as some privately-owned land south of Hudson Street.

560 W. Nationwide Blvd. (Downtown) – At one time slated to hold a casino, Nationwide Realty Investors (NRI) bought the roughly 20-acre site in 2011. Although NRI has not released any formal plans for the land, they’ve indicated in the past that some type of residential development is the most likely use for the site.

468 W. Nationwide Blvd. (Downtown) – This was floated as a potential stadium site by Schottenstein Real Estate Group, but nothing came of that plan. Although the two parcels that were being eyed for development totaled 20 acres, the railroad tracks running between them would have made it tough to fit a stadium in.

Scioto Peninsula (Franklinton) – A conceptual plan for 21 acres of publicly-owned land west of COSI was unveiled last February, and was further refined when a developer for the project was selected in December. A soccer stadium is not part of that plan, which call for office space, retail, and over 2,500 new residents on the site.

Abbott Laboratories site (Downtown) – Clocking in at over 25 acres, a plan for this site was floated by Columbus Foundation president Doug Kridler in November but then walked back the next day. It is located east of North Fifth Street and north of Mt Vernon Avenue, and is currently used for parking and truck storage.

More below:
http://www.columbusunderground.com/crew-stadium-locations-bw1
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1483 on: February 21, 2018, 09:31:17 AM »
Dodge Park was just renovated a few years ago. It's also one of the only parks in Franklinton. A huge asset for that community. A big NO from me. Same with Berliner. A park that large and that is almost always packed every evening in the summer that close to the CBD is very valuable. No thank you to putting something used relatively rarely in those two spots.

Abbott clearly stated they use that land and it's probably valuable to them to hold onto for possible different uses in the future.

The southern part of Jeffrey Park would have been perfect. Probably no room for it now. Plus that neighborhood needs a park.

The White Castle property would have been good. That's being developed differently now.

If we're talking private property, how about the OSU and Spectrum property along Olentangy between Goodale and 3rd?

The Scioto Peninsula would have been good. Perhaps they could work the same density in around a stadium.

I think clearly the NRI or Shottenstein sites on W Nationwide are the best sites. Or renovating the current stadium, but how feasible is it to bring to current standards? Then you'd need the state to open the land around it to developers. How would that impact the fairgrounds business?

Lots of options, none of them seem ideal for practical solutions...

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1484 on: February 24, 2018, 01:06:55 PM »
I've been enjoying watching the Columbus Crew win their first two games of the Carolina Challenge Cup in Charleston, SC.  They've got one more today before starting the MLS regular season at Toronto on March 3rd.

But our crummy owner and the creepy soccerdon say this might be the last season for the Columbus Crew.  If that's the case, then how are things going in Austin for them?  Well, yesterday featured this blistering column from the Austin American-Statesman entitled "Stuck between Columbus and Austin, has Precourt dropped the ball?":

http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/stuck-between-columbus-and-austin-has-precourt-dropped-the-ball/AkIVgwnNI1WIvULX5YrnZM/

Which of course was amplified by #SaveTheCrew:











Plus a couple of really funny parody twitter accounts joined in:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1485 on: February 24, 2018, 01:07:22 PM »
And after that column was published, it was followed with this news:



From the linked article:  http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/soccer/austin-parks-now-wants-guerrero-removed-from-shrinking-stadium-list/TDZK2L5KcMrVE9etInh3RL/

"The Austin Parks and Recreation Department, which helped put together a list of potential Major League Soccer stadium sites that included Roy G. Guerrero Metropolitan Park, is now backtracking and reversing course."

"The Parks Department wants to strike Guerrero from the rapidly shrinking list of city-owned properties that staff presented to Precourt Sports Ventures two months ago.  A board recommendation posted Friday will be discussed at a meeting Tuesday night."

"Guerrero Park was thought to be the Columbus Crew SC owners’ No. 2 choice behind Butler Shores Metropolitan Park, which was yanked after pressure mounted by neighborhood groups and activists."
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1486 on: February 25, 2018, 03:51:39 PM »

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« Reply #1487 on: February 25, 2018, 03:52:01 PM »
The 2018 Crew looked real good winning all three pre-season games in Charleston, SC and taking the Carolina Challenge Cup (again).  That's good and all - but let's not take our eyes off the #SaveTheCrew ball:

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1488 on: February 27, 2018, 12:00:08 PM »
Another interesting soccer development from Austin:


Austin USL team gets OK to field team in ’19

The USL on Monday gave Austin’s USL team, owned by Circuit of the Americas Chairman Bobby Epstein, the green light to move forward with its efforts to have a product on the field in time for the 2019 season.

The directive, first reported Monday by the Austin American-Statesman newspaper, is a departure from recent months, in which the USL team, first announced in August, sat idle while it waited for Precourt Sports Ventures’ efforts to explore a Major League Soccer stadium site in Austin play out.

“The USL was really very understanding when the Crew said they were moving to Austin, and they let us get into a sort of wait-and-see mode,” Epstein said.  “But now I think there’s a widespread feeling that the Crew may not be coming to Austin after all.” ... Epstein said in November there was “zero chance” USL and MLS franchises would be able to coexist in Austin.

MORE:  http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180226/crew-sc--austin-usl-team-gets-ok-to-field-team-in-19
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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1489 on: February 28, 2018, 06:49:50 AM »
Dodge Park was just renovated a few years ago. It's also one of the only parks in Franklinton. A huge asset for that community. A big NO from me. Same with Berliner. A park that large and that is almost always packed every evening in the summer that close to the CBD is very valuable. No thank you to putting something used relatively rarely in those two spots....

I've never been to Dodge Park (not a Columbus area resident) but It doesn't appear to be so much open greenspace than a collection of recreation facilities on one site (pool, ice rink, skate park, ball diamond, rec building). Is it not possible these amenities could still be kept in the vicinity for the use of the neighborhood.....just on another site(s).....if PSV or whoever winds up owning the Crew, puts up money for it?

Maybe the Cooper Stadium site? Or the car dealership on Broad next to Mt Carmel? Just spitballin. Would love to be enlightened.

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« Reply #1490 on: February 28, 2018, 01:12:40 PM »
^ Dodge Park could be a viable site.  But not the old Cooper Stadium site - it's a bad location and the reason the Clippers moved to Huntington Park downtown.  I still think that the most likely downtown site is the NRI-owned 560 W. Nationwide Blvd. location.  One of the #SaveTheCrew people did this mock-up of a new 'Mapfre Stadium' at this site:  https://twitter.com/CrewHD_VIDEOS/status/959979095932235777



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« Reply #1491 on: February 28, 2018, 03:18:20 PM »
Nice recap of yesterday's #SaveTheCrew news from https://twitter.com/velk/status/968845916076740609

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1492 on: February 28, 2018, 05:22:45 PM »
Anthony Precourt: Soccer stadium could bring $400M to Austin economy

A stadium on public parkland in Austin could bring $400 million in economic benefits, according to the owner considering moving a Major League Soccer club to the Texas capital. But some residents oppose any use of parkland for private development — as the Austin Sierra Club conservation chairman put it, "not one square foot." All this is happening as another soccer league targets Austin.

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« Reply #1493 on: February 28, 2018, 08:27:22 PM »
^ That Precourt statement was such a non-story.  Just a repackaging of old PSV talking points.  But I guess PSV felt pressure to build some positive momentum in Austin and take some steam from the #SaveTheCrew movement.  It failed on both fronts.

First, it highlighted (yet again) what a d!ck owner Precourt and his PSV minions have been:








Then, it didn't build any positive momentum in Austin:








And it certainly didn't take any steam from the #SaveTheCrew movement:

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« Reply #1494 on: February 28, 2018, 08:28:53 PM »
Supportive #SaveTheCrew resolution passed today by the Ohio Senate:  https://twitter.com/OhioSenateGOP/status/968922346575859713

Sure, it's only a symbolic show of support.  But anytime you can get this kind of bipartisan agreement, it should be noted:

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« Reply #1495 on: March 01, 2018, 12:17:05 AM »
^ Dodge Park could be a viable site.  But not the old Cooper Stadium site - it's a bad location and the reason the Clippers moved to Huntington Park downtown.  I still think that the most likely downtown site is the NRI-owned 560 W. Nationwide Blvd. location.  One of the #SaveTheCrew people did this mock-up of a new 'Mapfre Stadium' at this site:  https://twitter.com/CrewHD_VIDEOS/status/959979095932235777



Oh, I meant Cooper for a spot to relocate recreational facilities that are at Dodge.

NRI is still the best choice since nothing has to be moved. It's a blank canvas ready to be painted black and gold in the Arena District. The only issue I can see is maybe improving access since its kinda at the end of a dead end street basically but a stadium there would be a huge catalyst for development in the western end of the AD.

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« Reply #1496 on: March 01, 2018, 01:14:01 AM »
I still don't know that if anything happened at Cooper whether there would have to be retention ponds all over the place or not. If Arshot would have left Cooper alone the old site may have been able to be grandfathered in but since they tore everything down it may have kicked in the retention pond requirement. Retention ponds are also screwing attempts to build anything in the AD rail triangle.

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« Reply #1497 on: March 01, 2018, 01:20:41 AM »
Such a quiet, strange part of town back there on W. Nationwide. I lived half a mile away for five years, often went running around the area, and I've only ever been back there one time. It's probably good for a stadium because I feel like it's kind of out of the way for other types of development that wouldn't be as much of a destination.

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« Reply #1498 on: March 01, 2018, 06:34:39 AM »
Could Nationwide Blvd. be extended to go over the Olentangy, curving down to Spring/Long St?  Also, I wonder if a northbound street could go under 670 into the new White Castle development to connect to Goodale St. WCs plans make it looks like a drive on the east side of the property might go under 670.

Just brainstorming over here!

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Re: Columbus Crew Discussion
« Reply #1499 on: March 01, 2018, 06:57:11 AM »
^ Dodge Park could be a viable site.  But not the old Cooper Stadium site - it's a bad location and the reason the Clippers moved to Huntington Park downtown.  I still think that the most likely downtown site is the NRI-owned 560 W. Nationwide Blvd. location.  One of the #SaveTheCrew people did this mock-up of a new 'Mapfre Stadium' at this site:  https://twitter.com/CrewHD_VIDEOS/status/959979095932235777



Neat! I put together a hastily-made stadium development in that spot a few months ago:



It does seem like the best spot if something were to be done. I honestly do not know of any other spots near downtown that are viable.