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Those are some nice quality photos my dude! I think the Cool White look really sells it!
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Current Events / Re: The Republican Party
« Last post by jonoh81 on Today at 12:15:57 AM »
Most of the Trump bashers that you were talking about in your first post on the subject, myself included, don't exhibit any of the characteristics of the far left that I mentioned, and when actual issues are discussed, generally lie in the center-left. How far left you are is not defined by how much you hate Trump, and the most fervent Trump hater could lie almost anywhere along the political spectrum.

I don't think Trump being a narcissist and meaning nothing of what he says helps your argument, it hurts it.

Nationalism - well I used to not mind "civic nationalism" or "banal nationalism" as some have called a general pride in your country. But when it turns into the type of chest-beating that Trump exhibits, I believe it can become incredibly dangerous and destabilizing to society as a whole.

Tribalism - certainly part of human nature but not one that our leaders should be exploiting and exacerbating, for society to progress we should basically be moving on from it as a species. The world is too small today and it no longer serves its original evolutionary purpose.

As far as far-left people taking over the Dem party, I'm skeptical. Nothing compared to how the far right has hijacked the GOP in the past 30 years.

Could say more but gotta go. Wanted to respond to your message.

I'm not sure what you mean. Trump says outlandish things because of the over-the-top reaction he gets from it. The gulf between what he says and his actions and policies is such that I have no other conclusion that he does it just for the attention.


It is not a matter of measuring the level of hate for Trump someone may have, the conflation of nationalism with racism/xenophobia, national chauvinism, jingoism, and/or fascism/Nazism is a dead giveaway that someone is far-left.


What about Trump's nationalism would you describe as inherently dangerous and destabilizing?


It's the very nature of politics to exploit and exacerbate human tribalism. There is not one politician or activist who does not pursue it.


Do you think JFK would be a Democrat today? Or have a chance to win if he did run in the party? I think he'd have as much of a chance as Jim Webb. How about Bill Clinton? I think he'd have a tough time, too. The truth is, the party has been incrementally moving further left over time, with Obama being more of a culmination than the beginning some like to think he was. And it's continuing; the party will likely nominate a full-blown democratic socialist in the near future (8-12 years). There are many democrats who feel the party is leaving them behind, stranding them between it and the GOP. It is up to those who remain to fight back against the Dem. Soc. tide if they wish to avoid that outcome and bring those people back in.


As for the GOP, there are the neocons, the Christian conservatives, and some smatterings of quasi-libertarians, and I haven't seen that makeup change much over the last 25+ years.

Honestly, if you really have to have someone else hold you by the hand and point out what makes Trump at all different or at all dangerous, there's not going to be anything anyone says here that's going to convince you otherwise.  You are either informed and paying attention, or you're not.  You want to pretend like all this is normal, that everything is going according to plan.  That kind of delusion can no more be reasoned with than saying kids should be locked up in cages, sexually assaulting women is excusable or the fact that an adversary that attacked our Democracy deserves inexplicable praise.  There are hundreds of examples by now of wrongdoing, not just from some biased liberal perspective, but just from the perspective of being a rational human being with eyes and ears.  If you can't or won't see any of that, no one here is going to make any difference.  At this point, I think I speak for most of us in saying that this sh**'s getting exhausting. 
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Took the dog for a walk - I will get one from the Euclid side next time I'm out.

https://imgur.com/a/yt1Fg8A
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Does anyone know or have any night illuminated construction pics of 515? I think buildings under construction with incandescent bulbs look great at night.
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Current Events / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by freefourur on Yesterday at 09:40:05 PM »
The Red Cross is not allowed to visit the Donald J. Trump baby prisons.  This is a violation of the Geneva Convention.
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Current Events / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by KJP on Yesterday at 09:33:41 PM »
Sarah Huckabee Sanders shouldíve been served. HELL! We are Progressives
https://egbertowillies.com/2018/06/23/sarah-huckabee-sanders-served/
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Current Events / Re: In The World: China
« Last post by freefourur on Yesterday at 09:32:23 PM »
Tariffs and trade barriers.  Another mark of fascism.

wake up people.
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Current Events / Re: The Republican Party
« Last post by KJP on Yesterday at 09:31:58 PM »
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Current Events / Re: In The World: China
« Last post by KJP on Yesterday at 09:30:38 PM »
China is slamming $34 billion worth of US goods with tariffs. Here are the states that will be hurt the most.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-china-tariff-list-states-exports-losers-2018-6
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Current Events / Re: The Republican Party
« Last post by MikeInCanton on Yesterday at 08:46:11 PM »
Most of the Trump bashers that you were talking about in your first post on the subject, myself included, don't exhibit any of the characteristics of the far left that I mentioned, and when actual issues are discussed, generally lie in the center-left. How far left you are is not defined by how much you hate Trump, and the most fervent Trump hater could lie almost anywhere along the political spectrum.

I don't think Trump being a narcissist and meaning nothing of what he says helps your argument, it hurts it.

Nationalism - well I used to not mind "civic nationalism" or "banal nationalism" as some have called a general pride in your country. But when it turns into the type of chest-beating that Trump exhibits, I believe it can become incredibly dangerous and destabilizing to society as a whole.

Tribalism - certainly part of human nature but not one that our leaders should be exploiting and exacerbating, for society to progress we should basically be moving on from it as a species. The world is too small today and it no longer serves its original evolutionary purpose.

As far as far-left people taking over the Dem party, I'm skeptical. Nothing compared to how the far right has hijacked the GOP in the past 30 years.

Could say more but gotta go. Wanted to respond to your message.

I'm not sure what you mean. Trump says outlandish things because of the over-the-top reaction he gets from it. The gulf between what he says and his actions and policies is such that I have no other conclusion that he does it just for the attention.


It is not a matter of measuring the level of hate for Trump someone may have, the conflation of nationalism with racism/xenophobia, national chauvinism, jingoism, and/or fascism/Nazism is a dead giveaway that someone is far-left.


What about Trump's nationalism would you describe as inherently dangerous and destabilizing?


It's the very nature of politics to exploit and exacerbate human tribalism. There is not one politician or activist who does not pursue it.


Do you think JFK would be a Democrat today? Or have a chance to win if he did run in the party? I think he'd have as much of a chance as Jim Webb. How about Bill Clinton? I think he'd have a tough time, too. The truth is, the party has been incrementally moving further left over time, with Obama being more of a culmination than the beginning some like to think he was. And it's continuing; the party will likely nominate a full-blown democratic socialist in the near future (8-12 years). There are many democrats who feel the party is leaving them behind, stranding them between it and the GOP. It is up to those who remain to fight back against the Dem. Soc. tide if they wish to avoid that outcome and bring those people back in.


As for the GOP, there are the neocons, the Christian conservatives, and some smatterings of quasi-libertarians, and I haven't seen that makeup change much over the last 25+ years.





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