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Offline zaceman

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #120 on: September 25, 2006, 08:18:19 AM »
wow those will be a great addition and contrast to the flats

i could still see something (one or two buildings) taller going up here, like in the 30-35 story range probably strategicly placed in the "Casino zone" on all those surface lots
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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #121 on: September 30, 2006, 08:55:23 AM »
This is random, but when the Daily Show caught Carl Monday outside his house, it looks like he lives in Stonebridge.




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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #122 on: September 30, 2006, 09:05:10 AM »
^ I actually think Carl lives on the east bank. I have not watched your clip, but when I watched the daily show it looked like the street that runs by the former Gilly's donuts. I have not seen him around stonebridge, and I can assure you if he did live here there would have been an expose or two already.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #123 on: September 30, 2006, 09:07:40 AM »
Oh, you are probably right. My clip sucks. I was confused in the darkness =)

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #124 on: September 30, 2006, 09:15:13 AM »
Carl lives in the Kirkham Townhomes on West 10th Street (just off of West 9th and St. Clair).


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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2006, 10:41:01 AM »
Does issue 3 failing have any known impact on this project?

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2006, 11:12:41 AM »
I have wondered about what the impact is. Not sure if any of the projects were directly involved with gambling.  I kind of got the impression that gambling would only be the icing on the cake. I am sure the powerhouse people(my mind is blank, Jacobs, right?) are more affected. I am sure it will show up on the ballot again though, and maybe in a new and improved way where it can pass.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2006, 11:14:33 AM »
seriously...I wanted the benefits of the legislation, but the way that it was written was just so shady!  we can do better.  and the FWB will do just fine without a casino in the near-term!

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #128 on: November 08, 2006, 11:20:00 AM »
Just as Tower City will likely turn to the promise of the Convention Center/Medical Mart, I would imagine Jacobs will reevaluate and propose another high-yield facility. Of course, as Peabody pointed out, I doubt the casino talk is dead quite yet. Meanwhile, the first several phases of Stonebridge moved on the market without the promise of the casino. I think the density of residents that is slowly being built up along the West Bank will contribute more to additional market demand than the addition of the casino would.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #129 on: November 08, 2006, 11:22:03 AM »
I seem to recall that there was an ancient Indian burial mound on Whiskey Island. Does that qualify it as a potential Native American reservation?
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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2006, 11:24:11 AM »
true, the casino would be a hindrance (imo) for the housing market, depending on where it was built and in what fashion.  For example, if it was built just west of the power house, that would be bad for the Stonebridge residential component.  If they tried to locate it further north...say, north of the Main Ave. Bridge, then I think the negative impacts could be lessened.  Still, all that new traffic and rabble-rousing would be a detriment to residential growth, but would certainly encourage more commercial development.  Though, from what I recall, these impacts have not been proven decisively in other cities...

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #131 on: February 23, 2007, 06:58:40 PM »
I think this thread has been quiet long enough.
Has anyone heard any news (preferred good)?

Or did the casino defeat stall it?
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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #132 on: February 23, 2007, 07:11:13 PM »
This is technically part of the Stonebridge development. And when I asked Corna in January about a rumor that a non-gambling entertainment complex would take the place of the casino, he pleaded innocent. He also said that Jeff Jacobs hasn't given up on the casino, and that Stonebridge would proceed with or without a casino.
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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #133 on: February 23, 2007, 07:33:44 PM »

I figured that about the other thread.
I just wasn't sure since the title on the other one specifically states "Phase 5."

Anyway, thanks for the non-casino update.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #134 on: February 24, 2007, 11:51:51 AM »
Thats cool.  With our without the casino the model makes the area look hot!

The views of the east side are killer.

Way to go Flats!!

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2007, 01:46:27 PM »
I don't like how low the towers are.  I think they are to uniform, I think different heights would give some visual interest to the West Banks "skyline".

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #136 on: March 28, 2007, 11:44:04 PM »
Two interesting points (in my opinion) were said by Doug Price at the "Professionals in the city:"

1) three $500,000+ condos have already been resold in the past two months at 10-25% than what the original owner paid--increasing property value.
2)  "Water Park Hotel" ...what?! Did anyone else catch that?? 

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #137 on: March 29, 2007, 08:06:40 AM »
I don't like how low the towers are.  I think they are to uniform, I think different heights would give some visual interest to the West Banks "skyline".

Here's my take: they keep them low for two reasons. 1. they can use cheaper construction materials if they cap the height. 2. they don't feel that they could sell enough.

I'd like to see taller buildings in the later phases. We need to fill in the gaps with mid-rises and create more of a neighborhood. The west bank has too many surface lots. I'd rather see two 9-story buildings before I see one 18-story building.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #138 on: March 29, 2007, 08:58:31 AM »
I even think some height restrictions are in order as development approaches the waterfront.  You don't want too many shadows cast over this area like you have downtown.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2007, 10:50:59 AM »
I heard about the "water park hotel" a long time ago, and siced KJP on to it, but they denied, no? It is good 3 units resold (I do not think they were all over 500,00, but if not close)  but they were on the market of a while (one turned over 2x and the second time it sold quicker)

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2007, 02:37:23 PM »
What like Kahiki in Sandusky?

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #141 on: March 29, 2007, 02:48:54 PM »
What like Kahiki in Sandusky?

I think its the kolahari hotel

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #142 on: March 29, 2007, 10:01:40 PM »
^frankly I dont know since its not my thing. He said something about waterslides and rides and watersports...and indoor waterstuff as well.  Kid love that crap. we took my step daughter "great bear" (?) louge in Sandusky one winter and she loved it.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2007, 01:01:16 PM »
I noticed that they updated the Stonebridge website. There isn't any new information, but kinda interesting to check out and nice to see that the site has been updated:
http://www.stonebridge-condominiums.com/plaza/index.htm

Here is what it says for phase 5:
UNDER CONSTRUCTION – JUNE 2007 OCCUPANCY
-Affordably priced, starting at $146,000.
-Choose from 1-bedroom, 2-bedrooms or penthouses ($300,000 - $1 million).

Phases
Stonebridge has been carefully planned in 12 distinct phases.

Phases 1-3
Stonebridge began in 1999 when ground was broken for the first Stonebridge apartment building—Stonebridge Waterfront. Office/retail space was added as part of Phase 3 with the completion of Stonebridge Center, which hosts a number of commercial tenants, including the award-winning Ponte Vecchio Restaurant.

Phases 4-6
Phase 4 added condominiums to the mix with the advent of The Towers at Stonebridge. Currently, The Plaza at Stonebridge (Phase 5) is under construction with its 108 luxury condominium units, and work is underway for 35,000 square feet of additional office/retail space to be known as Stonebridge Square (Phase 6).


About Stonebridge Square
Currently under construction, Stonebridge Square represents 35,000 square feet of newly renovated office and retail space. Adjacent to The Plaza at Stonebridge, the new Stonebridge Square promises to be home to a number of retail shops designed to cater to the day-to-day needs of Stonebridge residents, including a deli, gourmet grocery store and coffee shop.

A focal point of the project will be its expansive skylight and foliage-filled atrium that will provide shoppers with a peaceful, out-of-the-way place to sit and enjoy a cup of coffee along with a good book or the morning newspaper. A glass skywalk will also connect Stonebridge Square with direct access to the historic Superior Viaduct Bridge—another scenic location for walking or reading.


Phases 7-9
Reaching out along the banks of the Cuyahoga River, Riverfront at Stonebridge (Phase 7) is projected to break ground in 2008 for its 30 riverfront townhomes. Each of these custom-built units will be set in a triplex building featuring a two-car garage with direct access to the unit. Large balconies, rooftop terraces and spectacular views of downtown and the river await the future residents of Riverfront.

Shortly afterward, Phase 8 is scheduled to begin with the development of 68 loft townhouses. Of course all of these new downtown residents will require additional retail sources for dining, shopping and servicing, so Stonebridge Commons (Phase 9) will become a massive 285,000-squre-foot office/retail complex.

Phases 10-12
The final three phases of development, scheduled for completion by 20??, will connect Stonebridge with Lake Erie via the construction of 1,200+ new housing units and another 650,000 square feet of office/retail space. All of the supporting service amenities, as well as the necessary infrastructure will be in place so that, upon completion, Stonebridge residents can live, work and play in the same thriving area that's just walking distance from downtown.

I'm not sure what phase this is, but it has a very interesting look to it:


please visit:

http://www.stonebridge-condominiums.com/index.htm
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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2007, 01:18:34 PM »
superceleb (damnit I love that name!)  I noticed that too, some of the rendering look very interesting!

I also wonder if the units they are showing are whats available?  I have floor plans of larger multi level units.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2007, 01:24:00 PM »
Comparing it to other images on the site, I'd say that's a model for phases 10-12. Fortunately, it looks as though those have made accomodations for first-floor retail/offices.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2007, 01:30:22 PM »
if you look on the first floor of the first building, it looks like the tree is inside.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2007, 01:35:09 PM »
There is an updated site plan.  Notice the proposed change to Center St. as it gets close to the Old River channel.  I agree that the picture from above is probable phases 10-12, judging from the shapes on the site plan.

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2007, 03:07:19 PM »
Is there a total price tag # for the entire project? Obviously its too preliminary for an accurate number, but is there one anyways?

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Re: Cleveland: Stonebridge/Flats West development
« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2007, 03:20:56 PM »
^The website quoted $500 million.