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Los Angeles: Developments and News
« on: April 25, 2006, 04:59:45 PM »
Frank Gehry is creating a downtown for LA. Looks to be a pretty ambitious plan. Does anyone have any more info regarding his "Atlantic Yards development he is designing for downtown Brooklyn"

Los Angeles With a Downtown? Gehry's Vision

By ROBIN POGREBIN

Published: April 25, 2006

It isn't easy to create a real downtown district, vibrant and intense, in a city as sprawling and diffuse as Los Angeles, Frank Gehry admits. But that's what he has set out to do with his design for Grand Avenue, unveiled in preliminary form yesterday. The $750 million project, which includes the first high-rises he has ever designed for his hometown, is the first phase of a $1.8 billion development plan by the Related Companies that will remake Grand Avenue as a pedestrian-based gathering point.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2006, 05:33:35 PM »
Downtown LA has been experiencing little sprouts of redevelopment, but Gehry is right about there not really being a downtown LA. There is only a technical "downtown" district, but it anything like a downtown I've seen in other cities. I was there a couple years ago and went downtown to see the new Catholic cathedral and while driving around it was amazing how very little pedestrian activity there was, and how much disrepair the buildings were.

There are a lot of efforts to revitalize downtown LA, and they will probably be successful, but probably not as successful as people think. It is my opinion that the LA culture is so entrenched with driving around in flashy cars and being near the beach or having a large house with your pool that you will never see LA be like a vibrant densely populated big city with a lot of pedestrian activity.

Forest City has a nice finished a nice project for downtown LA. It is a historic rennovation of some subway terminal and it is now for sale housing units. Why they don't similar for something attached to Tower City like in the Higbee building is beyond me, but whatever.










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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2006, 05:56:38 PM »
My experience with Downtown LA was that it was pretty much a real downtown, though the character changes a lot.  The Bunker Hill /Civic Center area (which is where Gehrys' Disney is at) is "urban renewal', but further south and east there is a true downtown with "urban canyons' that one finds in places like Chicago's Loop...

There was quite a bit of street life one of the north-south downtown streets, forget which, as it seemed to be the big Mexican/latino shopping street. 

Here is a good little site on the various parts of downtown LA from USC Downtown LA Walking Tours



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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2006, 09:53:50 PM »
Isn't Broadway in downtown LA the big pedestrian shopping street?

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 08:27:54 AM »
Never been to LA, but it seems overwhelming size-wise. Isn't LA County just made up of LA the city?

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 09:52:45 AM »
While this particular project looks decent, I must say I am sick of Frank Gehry.  I feel like his idea of architecure is to make someone look at one of his buildings and say, "Oh, is that a Gehry?"  The worst of the current crop of starchitects, with Liebskind right behind him.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 09:58:47 AM »
^ Agreed.  That purple thing is a mess.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 10:23:59 AM »
^Agreed, LA is a mess!

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 09:32:08 PM »
LA county has a multitude of cities in it.  LA is more a conglomeration of cities than one city in and of itself.  For starters, LA county has Santa Monica, Venice Beach, Culver City, Westwood, Century City, Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Compton, Inglewood, Watts, Redondo Beach, Long Beach, etc... etc...

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 10:37:42 PM »
^ Yes! See that's what I thought was so strange about LA, and what I meant when there wasn't really a downtown. It has several high density business/residential/tourist districts. If you see a view of LA as taken from the hills, you see a bunch of skyscrapers and something that appears to be a skyline, but when you are down there and driving around you see clusters of skyscrapers and high rises spread very far apart from eachother in the middle of vast sprawling low density. When you are driving on the freeways that go through the city you really can't tell which cluster of buildings is "downtown". 

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2006, 09:30:04 AM »
I like Gehry's stuff a lot, but I don't want any more.  Too much of a unique thing takes away from the effect.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2006, 07:18:52 PM »
A whole neighborhood that Gehry built and designed?  That clusterfuck of twisted mess makes me sick.

That said, some of you really need to come out to L.A. and visit downtown before you show everyone how little you know about what's going on here.  I understand this is a board dedicated to Ohio urbanization, but some of these posts reek of SkyscraperCity-mentality.

Downtown L.A. is currently undergoing a huge revitalization, especially near the Staples Center with L.A. Live, there is a pretty significant condo boom in and around the historic districts in the southeastern portion of downtown, especially in and around Broadway.  There are also developments in the Skid Row/Toy/Fashion districts, arguably some of the worst areas of L.A.  They are literally building over some of the parking lots that have plagued the city for decades. 

If you're interested, I suggest checking out some of the L.A. development threads over at Skyscraper Page in the California forum

Hell, here's a link to several of the projects discussions:
For L.A. Live: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=81005

DTLA Housing Construction: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=68130

Highlights on several major developments: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=87579

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2006, 11:35:21 AM »
ok, but ease up. i don't read where anyone on these above posts was professing to be an expert on los angeles. keep in mind outsider and occasional visitor views are valid too. ps-interesting links.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2006, 02:37:49 PM »
Yeah, I was a little too strong with my phrasing.  My apologies. 

Despite having Disney Land and Hollywood, L.A. is not a tourist-friendly city.  You really have to dig deep to find what you're looking for.  Its there, it just helps to have a native along for the ride.  God knows I've found more in L.A. in the four years I've lived here from local friends that you don't find in travel books and TV shows.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2012, 12:48:20 PM »
My main takeaway from this article is there's a Skybar in Hollywood? I wonder if it's as good as the one in Bowling Green...

Hollywood high-rise plan has some up in arms
By JOHN ROGERS | AP – 5 hrs ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Hollywood, that mythic land where movie drama was invented, suddenly finds itself caught up in its own real-life drama, one involving high-priced real estate and people taking on City Hall. In this storyline, the issue is whether it is time for a famously spread-out, freeway-centric city's best known tourist destination to begin looking a little more like New York City by adding a towering skyline and pedestrian-friendly sidewalks.

The city Planning Commission recently gave its unanimous blessing to a new Hollywood Community Plan that would allow buildings of 50 stories or more in some areas. The skyscrapers, which planners see someday dotting what they call the Hollywood Corridor, would be linked by a section of subway that runs right underneath the fabled Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Planning Commissioner Michael Woo says the proposal is likely to come before the City Council in February or March for the first of several public hearings before a vote is taken.

But in the canyons and along the hillsides that make up much of Hollywood's more quiet residential areas, the plan is already getting a raucous public hearing from people who live in homes that run the gamut from sprawling mansions to century-old crackerbox apartments. Several neighborhood associations are banding together, vowing to fight it. The plan's opponents worry that bringing skyscrapers to a section of the city that already has seen traffic proliferate with the arrival in recent years of trendy hotels like the W and hot-spot nightclubs like the SkyBar will destroy the ambiance of their neighborhoods as well as compromise safety.

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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2012, 03:48:15 PM »
Skybar is at the Mondrian on Sunset.  It has a tacky pool and the drinks weren't even that good.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2017, 10:54:09 AM »
Also unconcerned by curbs on capital outflows, China's biggest developers make a massive bet on downtown Los Angeles https://t.co/SNDiyefTq5
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2017, 02:49:01 PM »
^Omitted from that article was any mention of the massive growth of the region's rail transit network.  A second downtown subway line is currently under construction connecting the blue and gold lines, extension of the Wilshire tunnel to Century City and beyond is now fully funded, and hopefully high speed rail will be operational by 2030. 

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2017, 08:43:34 PM »
Today, LA is voting on Measure S, which would put a "two-year moratorium on all real estate projects that require a General Plan amendment, zone change or increase in allowable height." Obviously this would have a huge negative impact on new development, halting many projects that are in the works and others that would have happened over the next two years.

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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2017, 11:40:05 AM »
Tomorrow: open house at North Hollywood Station Groundwork Coffee to discuss NoHo joint development project http://mtro.la/LR3930ayRtG

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New LA Skyscraper Soars Past Record in West
The 73-story Wilshire Grand Center opened its doors Friday
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Posted Jun 24, 2017 6:49 AM CDT

(NEWSER) – The tallest building west of the Mississippi River opened its doors on Friday in once-stodgy downtown Los Angeles, which is sprouting a crop of new skyscrapers. The 73-story Wilshire Grand Center has a huge spire that brings its height to 1,100 feet, topping the nearby US Bank Tower by more than 80 feet, reports the AP. The Bank Tower had held the height record since 1989. Critics might argue that a spire rising nearly 200 feet above the top of the building should not count, but it meets the criteria of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, which lists the world's tallest buildings based on the "architectural top of the building." The skyscraper is still dwarfed by buildings on the East Coast and overseas.

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http://m.newser.com/story/244764/las-new-skyscraper-is-now-tallest-in-west.html
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Re: Los Angeles: Developments and News
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2017, 10:19:09 AM »
Unpopular opinion (maybe, I don't know if anyone actually has strong opinions about this...) but I definitely prefer Wilshire Grand to the Salesforce tower further up the PCH. Los Angeles fascinates me and I'm really interested in watching how much it's changing in the 21st century. If LA can figure out how to take a horrendously sprawled built-environment and still manage to transform it into something cool, it'll be a great blueprint for figuring out how to fix our suburbs and other sprawly cities in the New South and elsewhere in the future.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2017, 10:56:52 AM »
Unpopular opinion (maybe, I don't know if anyone actually has strong opinions about this...) but I definitely prefer Wilshire Grand to the Salesforce tower further up the PCH. Los Angeles fascinates me and I'm really interested in watching how much it's changing in the 21st century. If LA can figure out how to take a horrendously sprawled built-environment and still manage to transform it into something cool, it'll be a great blueprint for figuring out how to fix our suburbs and other sprawly cities in the New South and elsewhere in the future.

LA covers a lot of ground, but its density overall is greater than many people realize, especially from downtown west to Santa Monica.
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2017, 11:11:46 AM »
^Yeah, that's what I found so interesting when I was out there. There are some great, dense beautiful neighborhoods, and even in the "sprawly" parts of SoCal, it's still way denser than any sprawl in the Midwest, it's just so filled with wide roads that it's impossible to walk in a lot of places. You'll have a mall shoehorned under a highway interchange and essentially butting up to a major road, but if you live a half mile away it would still be a pain to walk over there.
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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »
Block size and street widths are major impediments to walkability in LA, that is for sure. I don't think it's as unwalkable as many people claim, though. Downtown LA is quickly becoming a true urban center for the region, and it's very exciting to see all the new high rises and the renovation of the beautiful historic buildings on Broadway, Main, Spring, etc. Downtown is getting three new subway stops when the Regional Connector opens, and there are still talks of a Broadway streetcar to link with the South Park/Staples Center area. DTLA is probably the size of the entire downtown basin of Cincinnati or Downtown/central city Cleveland, and it is extremely walkable. Outside of there, the city is walkable in pockets, just like what exists in Ohio cities. The Hancock Park/Larchmont area feels almost identical to a Hyde Park in Cincinnati. Santa Monica has a dense, pedestrian friendly core that transitions seemlessly into residential neighborhoods, and a similar situation exists in Pasadena. I live in Los Feliz, and I can walk to quite a few restaurants, coffee shops, grocery stores. I take transit to work and only really drive on weekends. It's not the quintessential urban experience of New York, but it's very doable to have a pedestrian oriented existence here. You might have to work a bit harder in terms of uncomfortable crossings or what not, but you rarely have to deal with rain, and never have to deal with the cold or the snow. And that actually does vastly improve the pedestrian experience.

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2017, 12:53:14 PM »
I've been following the transformation along Broadway and it has gotten me really excited. That's one of the prettiest downtown strips in the country and I'm excited to see that it's becoming more than cheap shops and Hispanic churches or otherwise just not generally thought of as a place for Angelenos to hang out. The next time I'm out on the west coast for work I need to take a few days off and really dig into the urban experience there.
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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2017, 04:24:16 PM »
My brother's landlord just jacked the rent on the 1BR he shares with his girlfriend from $2,000/mo to $3,200/mo.  Right across from the Hollywood & Argyle Metro station.  His girlfriend refused to ride the subway and apparently never rode it in the year they lived there. 

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2017, 08:30:30 AM »
For a complete rundown on Downtown Los Angeles projects, please see below.  It is incredible how much stuff is going on in DTLA.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/development/building-l-a-updates-on-downtown-projects/article_56a40fb4-9c98-11e7-8f8d-93b0c82f2544.html
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2017, 09:39:33 AM »
^Transit, my friend, Transit!!  It has been LA's game changer.