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Re: Akron: University of Akron Developments
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2009, 01:02:43 PM »
I'll try to get actual pictures if anyone is interested!

Sure.

A complete UA photo tour would be great as well.

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« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2009, 10:44:52 AM »
Look for mayor Don to inact the UA/Akron arena soon..

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« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2009, 05:05:10 PM »
If Akron lands Payne,from Dayton, they probably better go ahead and get going on building an arena since they'll have 2 serious Bigs that any division I team would be envious of in 2011.  Will it be called the King James arena?  The LBJ?


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« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2009, 12:22:06 PM »
Lebron will have something to do with it.. thats a no brainer...

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« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2009, 02:00:32 PM »
A new, 10-11,000 seat arena would be incredible.  As much as it would be nice to build it "basketball specific", it definitely needs to be built to be able to host hockey and/or indoor soccer/lacrosse.

Meanwhile..

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...tor_mack_r.html

Rhoades has been at Akron since 2005, seeing the athletic program through unprecedented growth that includes a new football stadium expected to open in the fall, an indoor football practice facility and student center, plus plans for basketball arena improvements to begin in the spring.

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« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2009, 05:51:43 PM »
^Very mysterious but incredibly vague!  Seeing as its coming from the PD, they probably have no ambition to dig deeper into the meaning of "improvements".  That could mean slapping a coat of paint in the locker rooms to the JAR.  Highly likely it doesn't..  I can't really fathom a way to significantly improve the JAR that one would need to plan for.  Its a relatively modern high school basketball arena next to world class nat and football practice facilities. 

If Mack Rhoades can put together a new arena in downtown Akron maybe they can name this the Rhoades Arena.  Good idea on multi-use.. That really is a must.  I see it coming together with funds from UA, city, county, and Lebron.  He can use it for his events.  Tack on the fabled 2nd downtown hotel? 

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« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2009, 06:47:51 PM »
If Akron's phantom new arena is as big (and as nice!) as Toledo's, I would be happy!

I think 7500-9000 seats would be ok!

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« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2009, 06:50:48 PM »
A new, 10-11,000 seat arena would be incredible.  As much as it would be nice to build it "basketball specific", it definitely needs to be built to be able to host hockey and/or indoor soccer/lacrosse.

Meanwhile..

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...tor_mack_r.html

Rhoades has been at Akron since 2005, seeing the athletic program through unprecedented growth that includes a new football stadium expected to open in the fall, an indoor football practice facility and student center, plus plans for basketball arena improvements to begin in the spring.

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but 10,000 seats has proven too big for the MAC to fill up (check out the MAC basketball attendance thread in the UO sports section). Only two schools in the whole conference actually average over 5,000 people per game, Ohio and Toledo. There's a big dropoff in attendance after that. And OU's monster 13,000-seat Convo, the largest arena in the conference, rarely ever fills up (maybe for the occasional Miami game or back when we made the NCAA tournament). And OU is a school that supports its basketball team. If only we could say the same about our football team...:roll: I'll admit I liked having a big arena at OU (it made us feel like one of the big time basketball programs), but sellouts were extremely rare. The cooler thing about having a big arena is that you can attract big concert tours. Throughout OU's history, there have been shows that would not have come to OU if it weren't for the large arena. I think even Led Zeppelin played at OU! That's just amazing.

Akron averages about 3,000 people per basketball game. I doubt that's enough to justify even a mid-sized arena (mid-size meaning 7,000-12,000 seats). A new arena would probably be small like JAR. I kind of doubt they'd go much larger than 5,000 seats if it's just an university arena. They'd probably go the BG route with something like Stroh's Center. Personally, I'd like to see a couple thousand more seats in Akron, but people will point out the attendance figures as a reason not to do it. I think if Akron is to build a new arena, it has to be a joint venture between the city/county/university. The arena would also have to be multipurpose if it's to be larger. Baskbetball-only might not work for a city/county arena. The main advantage for the city to go in with the college on a larger arena would be attracting bigger concert tours. The proximity of the university to downtown also helps big time. The main reason Toledo didn't do a joint venture with the university is because the university is five miles away from downtown. Due to that geographic distance, Toledo had to build sizable arenas both downtown and at the school. Even though this was more expensive, there was no way around it. People talked forever about the cost savings of a joint arena, but it just wasn't a good idea in Toledo's case. The downtown arena had to be built with or without university support. By contrast, Akron could actually pull it off. If there's any school where a joint arena makes sense, it's Akron.

Also, there's nothing wrong with a small arena if it's classy and done right (Stroh's Center fails miserably). Size is probably not so much the issue with JAR. It's more the fact it's ugly. :|
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« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2009, 06:51:20 PM »
If Akron's phantom new arena is as big (and as nice!) as Toledo's, I would be happy!

I think 7500-9000 seats would be ok!

Bingo. Savage Hall at Toledo is great, arguably the classiest MAC venue since its renovation. Before renovation, it looked a little too "70's porno set", but the $30 million renovation classed it up much better than anyone could have imagined. It's not even recognizable, and that it is a good thing. It used to be a bland box with no character or coherent interior design. UT basically got a brand new arena for a pretty fair price.

Still, even if it was sleazy, I have good memories of the "old" Savage Hall. It's always been an attendance leader in the MAC. At most MAC schools, getting people's asses in the seats is usually the biggest problem...
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« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2009, 07:28:41 PM »
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I kind of doubt they'd go much larger than 5,000 seats. They'd probably go the BG route with something like Stroh's Center.

If they go with a joint city/UA venture, I highly doubt it will be smaller than current arena is now- mainly cause the Mayor HATES the Jar. And TTTT, it'll probably be used as a draw for a minor league hockey team....

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« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2009, 07:51:05 PM »
If they go with a joint city/UA venture, I highly doubt it will be smaller than current arena is now- mainly cause the Mayor HATES the Jar. And TTTT, it'll probably be used as a draw for a minor league hockey team....

I think everyone hates the JAR, and recognizes the need for a classier facility. UA is close to downtown, so I could see the joint venture working in Akron's case. It'd be a win-win for both the school and city. You can walk from the school to downtown, correct?
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« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2009, 08:13:55 PM »
If they go with a joint city/UA venture, I highly doubt it will be smaller than current arena is now- mainly cause the Mayor HATES the Jar. And TTTT, it'll probably be used as a draw for a minor league hockey team....

I think everyone hates the JAR, and recognizes the need for a classier facility. UA is close to downtown, so I could see the joint venture working in Akron's case. It'd be a win-win for both the school and city. You can walk from the school to downtown, correct?

Oh yeah. Part of the campus (mainly the Polsky Building) is actually in downtown, on Main Street. Next door to that is Mayflower Manor. Next to that is a surface-level parking, rumored to be the slot for an arena, across the street from Canal Park.

I think I said this before, the JAR is just worthless...too small for major university functions, convocations or concerts, and too small to really "feel" like a college arena.
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« Reply #72 on: February 26, 2009, 08:29:34 PM »
Next to that is a surface-level parking, rumored to be the slot for an arena, across the street from Canal Park.

If this were an infill project, it'd be sweet. How close would this be to the new football stadium? Honestly, the football stadium could very well be the best in the MAC when it opens. Everyone in the conference is pumped for it. Does anyone have an overall map of the campus including the possible new arena site(s)?

The new football stadium + new arena jointly built with the city/county could make Akron the best athletic facilities in the conference. And I do think a better facility could do wonders for basketball attendance at the school. There is something to be said for the psychology of an ugly arena working against its numbers...

I think I said this before, the JAR is just worthless...too small for major university functions, convocations or concerts, and too small to really "feel" like a college arena.

Agreed, plus it's ugly. It's not really acceptable for a D1 school. The time has a come for a new arena. Are there any site use plans or renderings yet?

I just pray they don't copy Stroh's Center...
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« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2009, 07:21:29 AM »
It would be down the street, if they were using the site that osborn engineering had marked (the link has since been removed).

The 3-4 Blocks north of Building 22 (The Polsky building) was the site in their plans demo-ing or rehabbing the Mayflower Manor (formerly the Sheraton). That site would probably be big enough for an arena/hotel combo.

I just don't know how I feel about displacing all those people that live there.

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« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2009, 07:44:24 AM »
I vaguely recall there's been a massing put together for what an Arena could look like on Main St.  That was about 3-4 years ago.  There has only been rumors, whispers, and small hints that there could be something going on behind the scenes.  Part of it is just connecting the dots and understanding that there's a big high school gym on campus that can be quickly sold out or maxed out.  Its not what is needed for a primary arena that should have multi-use. 

The focus of the city of Akron the past couple years has been keeping Goodyear and Bridgestone in the city.  That has mainly succeeded.  With the new transportation center on the edge of the city completed, they can refocus on final details of downtown vibrancy.  The university has been focused on their projects with the football stadium and acquiring Quaker Square hotel among many others.

That all said, there's still a lot on both city's and university's plates besides even getting to discuss an arena.  Apparently Mack Rhoades will be the one taking the lead on this.   With his success of putting the stadium together he's familiar now with most of the movers and shakers of the city.  This will be another level or 3 of complexity over that deal though.

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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2009, 12:09:54 PM »
C-Dawg,

I completely understand the state of MAC athletics.  But if it is built downtown, it is being built for more than MAC basketball.

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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2009, 12:22:25 PM »
It had been rumored that Mayor Don is interested in attracting an NBA development league team to the city using Lebron as a major force.

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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2009, 05:40:45 PM »
C-Dawg,

I completely understand the state of MAC athletics.  But if it is built downtown, it is being built for more than MAC basketball.


Indeed, that's why I really hope it's a joint venture. It'd make it easier to justify more seats.

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« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2009, 01:20:09 PM »
There is no doubt in my mind that when InfoCision opens it will be the best football stadium in the MAC.  To my understanding, a lot of work has been put into making this a very fan friendly stadium.   I've been to almost all the MAC stadiums and just don't see how any of them will come close to ICS. As for the JAR, I don't see UA building a replacement until we start selling out on a consistent basis.  It's still structurally sound and I too have heard some rumors that there will be some upgrades to the JAR in the future.  I agree that compared to other MAC venues, it feels like a HS gym, but that's what we've got.  I would love something better, but I would rather see a new Soccer stadium before we build a new BB arena.

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« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2009, 04:45:30 PM »
^When I went to the UofA I recall parking a couple blocks over from the Jar and going to classes and it always was among the most uncomfortable of walks anywhere.  Its stark and open so you're exposed to the wind, rain, snow, and heat.  Still to this day I recall how annoyingly exposed that area is and I rarely if ever go to the Jar for any event.
   Placement of an arena downtown would likely bring many more fans since there's more to do immediately after a game and of course before the game.  Unless you plan on working out or going to the nat, there's really nothing by the Jar. 
   

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« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2009, 01:56:28 PM »
Hey guys its interesting reading about the new arena, I had no clue they had any plans to build a new one, if they indeed put it downtown, it will be quite far from the new stadium, 1-1.5 miles, far for walking.

I just wanted to add a little update on the stadium, in the past couple weeks its been really making progress, they have alot of the windows in and th eoutside structure is starting to take shape.

Also I learned this week that March 16th they are starting on a new parking garage, it is going to belocated on the surface lot next to and in front of the current exchange parking deck, the two decks will be connected, the new addition is supposed to add 500 spaces and be 6 floors, idk how this is possible since the deck its being connected to is only 5 floors, heres a map of where the deck will be, the yellow is the new deck, http://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/463819.jpg
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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2009, 02:22:50 PM »
Hey guys its interesting reading about the new arena, I had no clue they had any plans to build a new one, if they indeed put it downtown, it will be quite far from the new stadium, 1-1.5 miles, far for walking.

I just wanted to add a little update on the stadium, in the past couple weeks its been really making progress, they have alot of the windows in and th eoutside structure is starting to take shape.

Also I learned this week that March 16th they are starting on a new parking garage, it is going to belocated on the surface lot next to and in front of the current exchange parking deck, the two decks will be connected, the new addition is supposed to add 500 spaces and be 6 floors, idk how this is possible since the deck its being connected to is only 5 floors, heres a map of where the deck will be, the yellow is the new deck, http://www.uakron.edu/dotAsset/463819.jpg

I think this new potential arena would be a "shared" venue between the city and the University- probably still utilizing the Jar for some of the lesser-attended sports.

Nice about the deck expansion.

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« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2009, 12:40:18 PM »
Skyway to build sit-down eatery near UA stadium
Restaurant will be chain's first to go beyond drive-in


By Jim Carney
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POSTED: 12:22 p.m. EDT, Mar 12, 2009

A Skyway restaurant to be built next door to the new University of Akron football stadium is being heralded as more than just a place to eat burgers, fries and onion rings.

The restaurant, the first to offer inside seating in the regional chain's 57-year history, is seen as a sign of the rejuvenation of the UA neighborhood around the $61.6 million stadium, said Ken Stapleton, senior economic development adviser and executive director of the University Park Alliance.

''We predicted that InfoCision Stadium would have this kind of positive impact on attracting both new businesses and residents,'' Stapleton said.

The Skyway Drive-In Restaurant, to be built at the northeast corner of Spicer and Exchange streets, will be Skyway's third franchise restaurant. In addition to franchise restaurants in Green and Stow, the company also has corporate-owned restaurants in Fairlawn and Medina.

It will be located on the site of a car wash, a former Subway restaurant and a legal office. The Subway relocated across the street on East Exchange Street several years ago and the law office of attorney Ted Chuparkoff moved to Akron's Wallhaven area several years ago.

The chain's first Fairlawn restaurant opened on West Market Street in 1952, and all Skyways have been drive-ins.

To read more, visit....http://www.ohio.com/news/41153437.html


The director of the Gardner Student Center back in 2002 told me they were interested in doing this...turns out he was right!
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« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2009, 05:53:54 PM »
never had skyway.. always eat at swensons.. but I'll be sure to try it instead of eating in the stadium...

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« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2009, 01:01:44 PM »
never had skyway.. always eat at swensons.. but I'll be sure to try it instead of eating in the stadium...

Skyway is pretty good, actually...I haven't had it in ages though!

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« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2009, 06:47:24 PM »
The Skyway is being built immediately next to my old Apt. building.  Too bad all that was there back then was a subway.  I can't say I'll be going there on game days though.....I'll be cooking some of my own food within sight of ICS.

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« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2009, 09:19:40 PM »
Hey Zipsrifle, any hot leads on where the best tailgating areas will be?  And I refuse to accept "parking garage" as an answer, lol.

I honestly hope the school/city don't waste time/money/effort on busting otherwise law abiding citizens who just happen to have an open container of adult beverage!!

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« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2009, 08:09:32 PM »
I'm sure you can buy a primo spot next to the fieldhouse which is immediately next to the stadium. Rumor has it that Lee Jackson field will be open for tailgating too (Bad idea IMO) but if you get there late, you will be in a parking deck.  I'm tailgating in the Schrank South lot and I'll be there at the crack of dawn to get my spot too!  As for alcohol, my understanding is that UA will NOT be banning open containers from the parking lots so... :drunk: 

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« Reply #88 on: March 22, 2009, 01:16:22 PM »
hmm.. intersting.. I wonder if UA/Akron could really strike a deal for an Arena... I was just in the dayton area by wright st.. Akron would greatly benefit from something like the nutter center. but right now theres no place to put it..cuz there would have to be ample parking..

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« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2009, 09:30:35 PM »
I think there would be plenty of parking available downtown with Polsky's and Oniells there.

I'm torn re: the arena issue. The Zips play so well at the JAR, and it's photogenic on tv, but it's so horribly designed. There is no buzz at all about the place. Getting an amazing, new, state of the art facility is tempting. But I would hate to see a "Cleveland State" scenario arise where the basketball team plays in front of 3-4k fans and the place looks empty with zero energy. 

Any new arena would have to be designed to keep the intimacy and I'm not sure how they could do that.

hmm.. intersting.. I wonder if UA/Akron could really strike a deal for an Arena... I was just in the dayton area by wright st.. Akron would greatly benefit from something like the nutter center. but right now theres no place to put it..cuz there would have to be ample parking..
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