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« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2009, 11:44:45 AM »
^Very mysterious but incredibly vague!  Seeing as its coming from the PD, they probably have no ambition to dig deeper into the meaning of "improvements".  That could mean slapping a coat of paint in the locker rooms to the JAR.  Highly likely it doesn't..  I can't really fathom a way to significantly improve the JAR that one would need to plan for.  Its a relatively modern high school basketball arena next to world class nat and football practice facilities. 

If Mack Rhoades can put together a new arena in downtown Akron maybe they can name this the Rhoades Arena.  Good idea on multi-use.. That really is a must.  I see it coming together with funds from UA, city, county, and Lebron.  He can use it for his events.  Tack on the fabled 2nd downtown hotel? 

UA's AD doesn't work for downtown. He is employed by UA. And he should push for an on-campus multi-purpose arena and not a downtown arena. UA is doing a wonderful job of looking like a real campus. Putting an arena downtown will be a big step backwards and would be suicidal for UA.
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« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2009, 12:19:44 PM »
^Very mysterious but incredibly vague!  Seeing as its coming from the PD, they probably have no ambition to dig deeper into the meaning of "improvements".  That could mean slapping a coat of paint in the locker rooms to the JAR.  Highly likely it doesn't..  I can't really fathom a way to significantly improve the JAR that one would need to plan for.  Its a relatively modern high school basketball arena next to world class nat and football practice facilities. 

If Mack Rhoades can put together a new arena in downtown Akron maybe they can name this the Rhoades Arena.  Good idea on multi-use.. That really is a must.  I see it coming together with funds from UA, city, county, and Lebron.  He can use it for his events.  Tack on the fabled 2nd downtown hotel? 

UA's AD doesn't work for downtown. He is employed by UA. And he should push for an on-campus multi-purpose arena and not a downtown arena. UA is doing a wonderful job of looking like a real campus. Putting an arena downtown will be a big step backwards and would be suicidal for UA.

How do you put an arena "on campus" on a city campus?

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« Reply #122 on: July 08, 2009, 03:11:45 PM »
The same way you put a 30,000 seat stadium on campus.

All campuses exist in a city and many are in the downtown area. UA is not unique in that regard

Also, Lebron James will have nothing to do with a UA arena. He is only a high school graduate and will not play a role in or have his name on a university project. If he wants to be involved, he can start by enrolling and showing up for class.
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« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2009, 03:42:22 PM »
The same way you put a 30,000 seat stadium on campus.

All campuses exist in a city and many are in the downtown area. UA is not unique in that regard

Also, Lebron James will have nothing to do with a UA arena. He is only a high school graduate and will not play a role in or have his name on a university project. If he wants to be involved, he can start by enrolling and showing up for class.

I dissagree.. Lebron is connected in many ways to UA. His h.s. Coach is the Head coach @ UA. Friends with an assistant coach and his h.s. Team mates palyed there. If and when UA chooses to build a new arena Lebron will have a minor roll in it and I'm sure it will deal with money.

I like to see it built on the other side of campus where all that empty space is along rt 8. High visability and room for parking deck/lots. It would spread out the campus a lil bit as well as keeping it out of Downtown..

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« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2009, 04:50:57 PM »
I totally agree with your location for the campus arena. I don't agree with your Lebron James connection with the university. His having the same coach is not enough. One cannot be associated with an institution of higher education without being a part of higher education.

That is why they kicked sleazy Alex Arshinkoff off the board at UA.

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« Reply #125 on: July 09, 2009, 08:25:15 AM »
The same way you put a 30,000 seat stadium on campus.

All campuses exist in a city and many are in the downtown area. UA is not unique in that regard

1. U of A is supposed to frivolously spend millions of dollars buying property and using the courts to get eminent domain the same way as the football stadium?

2. How do you define the campus?  Is the Polsky Building on Campus?  If so that would mean all of downtown would be "on campus".  Parts of where the football stadium is now were privately owned business (bars).  So there were bars on campus before?

The city was willing at one point to do a joint venture with U of A for an ice arena.

As far as keeping it "out of downtown" why? Columbus built up the area around their convention center with a thriving district. 
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« Reply #126 on: July 09, 2009, 02:06:43 PM »
It doesn't have to be a joint venture in ordere to justify more seats. What it must be is multi-purpose in order to justify more seats and even that doesn't require a joint venture. UA succeeded at putting a 30,000 seat stadium on campus that serve students and community alike without it being a joint venture. It can do the same with a 10,000 to 15,000 seat arena An on-campus arena will serve UA students as well as the community in the same successful way that an on-campus stadium and performing arts hall does. Putting the arena on campus instead of downtown will not detract from its support one bit. In fact, a campus arena will most likely have a better appeal to the student body as well as the general community. This is exactly why UA built the stadium on campus and not downtown as the mayor vehemently wanted them to do.

And the fact of the matter is downtown Akron is not on campus. I don't care if thePolsky Building is technically on campus. It is not on campus in reality or spirit. No reasonable person considers downtown as on campus. It can never be made to look on campus because it already has a downtown traffic laden non-campus appearance.

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« Reply #127 on: July 09, 2009, 02:22:03 PM »
Growing up in the Columbus area, The Ohio State University was a constant and clear presence in the community.  The boundries were obvious, even though it is smack in the middle of the city.  Buildings, events and facilities are marketed in a way that makes it overwhelmingly clear who, WHERE and what is the Ohio State University. 

If Ohio State can do it so can The University of Akron. UA is trying to create a park-like, pedestrian friendly, town within a city appearance. Putting a brand new multi million dollar, major people attracting structure downtown takes away from that goal. It makes no sense for the university to take great pains and expense to put a stadium on campus only to turn around and place an arena downtown. The existance of the Polsky building justifies nothing and is irrelevant to this issue. Areas that were once "off-campus" but ar no longer were areas that had obvious potential to look like part of the campus. Downtown does not share that qualtiy. It looks like a downtown area and has major interruptions which prevent an integrated campus flow. Are you going to tell us that St. Bernard Church and the Safety Bulding are also on campus?

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« Reply #128 on: July 09, 2009, 02:47:45 PM »
St. Bernard Church and the Safety Bulding are also on campus?

Do students take classes there?

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« Reply #129 on: July 09, 2009, 03:16:16 PM »
I would think an ideal spot for a new arena would be the block of exchange between kling and brown.  It is a block from the new football stadium and is within walking distance of the new dorms being built.  Most of the block is vacant land with the exception of the plasma bank and kinkos/fedex store.  The downtown proposal is several years old now, and I think is pretty much dead at this point.

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« Reply #130 on: July 09, 2009, 04:31:03 PM »
I have a friend that works @ the plasma bank.. He said the university wants to buy the plasma bank to build a parking deck for the stadium.  A deal has not been reached so its not public information yet.

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« Reply #131 on: July 10, 2009, 05:26:24 AM »
There's a parking deck just down the street, on the other side of the soccer field.  That's not close enough? 
Referring back to my earlier posts and thinking about locating an arena where kinkos is now; where kinkos is would make a great block there to have an entertainment district on that side with bars and restaurants.  Then I thought some more.  Why take that away from downtown?  I still think the arena would be better suited for the block where the Mayflower is located downtown now.  Build that area up with more bars, restaurants and retail.

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« Reply #132 on: July 10, 2009, 05:28:08 AM »
UA stadium crews driving toward opening goal

By Carol Biliczky
Beacon Journal staff writer

About five times a week Hunter Yurachek climbs six flights of stairs at the University of Akron's new stadium with a curious alumnus or business owner in tow.

The stairs are a challenge but selling InfoCision Stadium isn't, UA's interim athletic director said...

More at:  http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/50367457.html
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« Reply #133 on: July 10, 2009, 09:18:50 PM »
The parking structure would mostly serve the new resident halls going up next to the stadium and would also be used on gameday.

 I love the color scheme for the field @ the stadium.. Ill drive up from the dayton area to visit the family and see a few UA games this fall.. I'm actually interested in UA football for once..

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« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2009, 08:48:56 PM »
How do you put an arena "on campus" on a city campus?
Although I see your point, and I sort of agree with you, I want to be sure we're all on the same page.  UA is city campus, but it's not like CSU.  From your other posts, it seems you're referring to the use of eminent domain, which is a whole different story.  But a lot of people still have the idea that Akron uses the city as it's 'campus'.  When in reality all the streets have been closed off through the main campus area.  Of course there are still areas in the campus foot print that have streets, but this is no Cleveland State(nothing against CSU).  It's closer to a Toledo sort of vibe, but unlike Toledo, 'campus' as we know it is still expanding.  Akron is a sleeping giant.  And it's growing every year(in acres and in enrollment).   The future is bright.

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« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2009, 11:23:01 PM »
How do you put an arena "on campus" on a city campus?
Although I see your point, and I sort of agree with you, I want to be sure we're all on the same page.  UA is city campus, but it's not like CSU.  From your other posts, it seems you're referring to the use of eminent domain, which is a whole different story.  But a lot of people still have the idea that Akron uses the city as it's 'campus'.  When in reality all the streets have been closed off through the main campus area.  Of course there are still areas in the campus foot print that have streets, but this is no Cleveland State(nothing against CSU).  It's closer to a Toledo sort of vibe, but unlike Toledo, 'campus' as we know it is still expanding.  Akron is a sleeping giant.  And it's growing every year(in acres and in enrollment).   The future is bright.

 I agree. Just like many look at the chapel as being the UA church yet its not. Its basically on campus but not associated with the University.

I like how the campus is becoming. I attended Malone in Canton and I never felt like I was on a college campus. When I transferred to Cincinnati Christian University I felt the same. Had a great view of cincinnati but lacked the campus feel. I attend Cinti state right now and it is truely a campus.

Akron now has a campus feel but 10 years back it didn't. EJ thomas hall and the goodyear building kind of bring downtown onto campus slighty. Soon downtown Akron will be fit to gain off of more students living on campus. There's a need for a dave and busters type of facility downtown and I'm sure it would flourish..(JMO)
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« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2009, 10:00:11 PM »
How do you put an arena "on campus" on a city campus?
Although I see your point, and I sort of agree with you, I want to be sure we're all on the same page.  UA is city campus, but it's not like CSU.  From your other posts, it seems you're referring to the use of eminent domain, which is a whole different story.  But a lot of people still have the idea that Akron uses the city as it's 'campus'.  When in reality all the streets have been closed off through the main campus area.  Of course there are still areas in the campus foot print that have streets, but this is no Cleveland State(nothing against CSU).  It's closer to a Toledo sort of vibe, but unlike Toledo, 'campus' as we know it is still expanding.  Akron is a sleeping giant.  And it's growing every year(in acres and in enrollment).   The future is bright.

 I agree. Just like many look at the chapel as being the UA church yet its not. Its basically on campus but not associated with the University.

I like how the campus is becoming. I attended Malone in Canton and I never felt like I was on a college campus. When I transferred to Cincinnati Christian University I felt the same. Had a great view of cincinnati but lacked the campus feel. I attend Cinti state right now and it is truely a campus.

Akron now has a campus feel but 10 years back it didn't. EJ thomas hall and the goodyear building kind of bring downtown onto campus slighty. Soon downtown Akron will be fit to gain off of more students living on campus. There's a need for a dave and busters type of facility downtown and I'm sure it would flourish..(JMO)

Trust me, the UA campus 10 years ago was COMPLETELY different than it is today.  It might as well have been 100 years ago.  Personally, I think the stadium should be thrown up next to the existing JAR in an effort to keep the athletic facilities close together.  I also think LBJ would support an arena in Akron and would likely want it in downtown, not on the UA campus. If a new arena is to be built, UA does not need City cooperation to get it done, though throwing LBJ in the mix could make it interesting.  Though I enjoy the thought of a new arena, it is not needed at this point in time.  We need to sell out the JAR first on a consistent basis. 

As for the topic of what defines campus, I do believe there is an actual designation of what is "On Campus" as UA has its own Police Dept. and is responsible for what goes on "On Campus".  I don't know the exact boundaries, but this is probably your best bet for defining campus.  There are also a lot of hard feelings about campus expansion.  UA is landlocked when it comes to undeveloped land surrounding campus and it has probably been this way for over a century.  From my point of view, UA has two choices, it can expand or it can keep the existing footprint and die.  Campus was VERY cramped when I was in school and the only way to go was UP.  Most students aren't looking college defined by concrete high rise buildings.  UA is actively expanding and doing it in many ways.   I believe the Polsky building was given to UA and that got the foot in the door to downtown.  UA needed quick dorm space for both the increasing student population and the dorms to be demolished for the Stadium construction.  This led it to purchase Quaker Square.  The stadium required eminent domain to get done, which I have mixed feelings about.  In the end, I believe that UA is the single biggest asset the City of Akron has right now and though the expansion is painful, it is necessary to grow the University and the Region.

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« Reply #137 on: July 15, 2009, 09:22:49 PM »
I'm not sure there is space for a decent arena by all the athletic fields unless the JAR is torn down.  That means putting the arena someplace other than campus since free campus acreage is pretty filled up.  The advantage to an arena on South Main is multi-use, like CSU has with the convocation center.  An arena is still in Akron whether its on campus or not.  We're not talking the rubber bowl situation where it was not easy for fans to get to.  An arena could be 2 blocks from the campus.  By pooling resources of the city, county, St. V?, convention center, and whoever else, an arena can be made bigger and nicer than an exclusively UA arena.  I don't want to see UA build an arena that holds only 2x more people than the JAR on campus.  That to me sounds boring.

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« Reply #138 on: July 16, 2009, 07:54:29 AM »
I'm not sure there is space for a decent arena by all the athletic fields unless the JAR is torn down.  That means putting the arena someplace other than campus since free campus acreage is pretty filled up.  The advantage to an arena on South Main is multi-use, like CSU has with the convocation center.  An arena is still in Akron whether its on campus or not.  We're not talking the rubber bowl situation where it was not easy for fans to get to.  An arena could be 2 blocks from the campus.  By pooling resources of the city, county, St. V?, convention center, and whoever else, an arena can be made bigger and nicer than an exclusively UA arena.  I don't want to see UA build an arena that holds only 2x more people than the JAR on campus.  That to me sounds boring.

Exactly.  If built downtown it wouldn't have to house just U of A events.  I'm sure the city would love to compete with Blossom and get some of the revenue from events like that, at least during colder seasons when they can't have concerts outside.
St. V is building a new field house or something, so I doubt they would be interested in contributing.

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« Reply #139 on: July 16, 2009, 08:54:53 AM »
St. V/M is a high school.. They have money for their own stuff.

Put the arena on wolfs ledges and build a new parking deck in downtown with a pedestrian bridge over the railroad tracks..

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« Reply #140 on: July 16, 2009, 11:14:01 AM »
St. V/M is a high school.. They have money for their own stuff.

Put the arena on wolfs ledges and build a new parking deck in downtown with a pedestrian bridge over the railroad tracks..

I understand your logic, but I think that would bring an atmosphere similar to going to a Browns game.  People drive to the parking space, walk over the bridge, walk back to their car, and leave.  That doesn't help the city.  You need people walking around on the streets.  If they have to park a little farther away and walk that's ok.  It won't deter them from going to an event and you get some liveliness to the street.  Who knows, they might even pass a store / restaurant that they would want to come back to visit!

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« Reply #141 on: July 17, 2009, 11:06:13 AM »
Well, we almost made it a week w/o a story in the ABJ about the new stadium...almost.

UA stadium chalks up another addition
By Beacon Journal staff
POSTED: 12:06 p.m. EDT, Jul 17, 2009

Installation of the scoreboad at the University of Akron's InfoCision Stadium got under way this morning.

The entire structure will be 60 feet by 84 feet with a video board measuring 22 feet by 39 feet, according to information supplied by the university...

more at: http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/51031102.html
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« Reply #142 on: July 17, 2009, 03:07:15 PM »
There's a parking deck just down the street, on the other side of the soccer field.  That's not close enough? 
Referring back to my earlier posts and thinking about locating an arena where kinkos is now; where kinkos is would make a great block there to have an entertainment district on that side with bars and restaurants.  Then I thought some more.  Why take that away from downtown?  I still think the arena would be better suited for the block where the Mayflower is located downtown now.  Build that area up with more bars, restaurants and retail.

You had it right the first time. The site near or at Kinkos is a good one because it can be made to look on campus. I'm sorry, downtown in the area of the Mayflower doesn't look like any kind of campus and certainly not the UA campus. Because it is an obvious downtown looking location, it would be next to impossible to be converted to look like an integrated part of the UA campus. The arena needs to help make the real campus stick out just like the new stadium. A downtown arena will shoot UA in the foot.

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« Reply #143 on: July 17, 2009, 03:19:09 PM »
I'm not sure there is space for a decent arena by all the athletic fields unless the JAR is torn down.  That means putting the arena someplace other than campus since free campus acreage is pretty filled up.  The advantage to an arena on South Main is multi-use, like CSU has with the convocation center.  An arena is still in Akron whether its on campus or not.  We're not talking the rubber bowl situation where it was not easy for fans to get to.  An arena could be 2 blocks from the campus.  By pooling resources of the city, county, St. V?, convention center, and whoever else, an arena can be made bigger and nicer than an exclusively UA arena.  I don't want to see UA build an arena that holds only 2x more people than the JAR on campus.  That to me sounds boring.

Exactly.  If built downtown it wouldn't have to house just U of A events.  I'm sure the city would love to compete with Blossom and get some of the revenue from events like that, at least during colder seasons when they can't have concerts outside.
St. V is building a new field house or something, so I doubt they would be interested in contributing.

A UA campus arena can look nice. It can also be used for other than strictly UA events. What makes you think it can't? High Schools will use UA's on-campus stadium. The UA on-campus stadium is looking like and billed as one of the best college stadiums in the nation. If our stadium which is on campus can look nice, be multi-purpose and serve the non-campus community and region as it will, then why wouldn't an on-campus arean be capable of doing the same thing. The Coleman Commons held cheerleading camps for highschools in Akron there the other day. UA's EJ Thomas Hall has non- UA events there all the time including High School graduations. The UA campus accomodates conferences which have nothing to do with the college all the time. UA as a whole has been serving the community in this multiputpose way all the time. If UA can put the Rolling Stones and Jefferson Airplane at the Rubber Bowl and fill it, it can do the same at the stadium (which it plans to do) and an on-campus multi-purpose arena. The campus doesn't lock its doors to the community. And, there are plenty of potential locations east of downtown that UA has or is buying as we speak that would easily accomodate an on-campus arena that would seat far less than UA's on-campus stadium.
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« Reply #144 on: July 17, 2009, 03:43:36 PM »
St. Bernard Church and the Safety Bulding are also on campus?

Do students take classes there?

BTW, the Rubber Bowl was not on campus yet UA owned it just like the Polsky Building. The point is the church and safety building interrupt the campus flow and that is counter to what UA is attempting to achieve. Yes, Polsky is technically "on-campus", I guess, but that begs the question. It's just a building that is downtown and looks like a downtown building and happens to be owned by UA. Big frigging deal. It is not the end all and be all to UA's real looking campus. And by no means does it make non-campus land next to it on-campus as in the church and safety building.

If simply taking classes in any old building was the litmus test for on-campus, then I guess UA's landscape for learning and all the millions it spent on creating a beautiful self-contained campus is for naught. Heh?

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« Reply #145 on: July 17, 2009, 03:44:11 PM »
The city would like an arena to attract concerts and conventions and such. The university will need a new arena soon. (With more on campus students who want/will attend games) It seem logical that both parties come together to meet this need.

The city will want it downtown and the University will want it on campus. A logical location is where the campus mets downtown. I'd check into seeing it the ABJ would sell it wearhouse and build the Arena there. Plenty of room edge of downtown and edge of campus.

Or another possibility is to relocate whatever is in that lil building across form the law library and EJT and place the arena there. There wouldn't be room for parking so many will park downtown and that is on campus. Could create an Arts/entertainment district on campus that downtown could advertise to visitors.

I don't think that UA will keep quaker square after it has built enough dorms. They'll try to sell that off to a hotel chain a few years down the line.

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« Reply #146 on: July 18, 2009, 11:15:44 AM »
The same way you put a 30,000 seat stadium on campus.

All campuses exist in a city and many are in the downtown area. UA is not unique in that regard

1. U of A is supposed to frivolously spend millions of dollars buying property and using the courts to get eminent domain the same way as the football stadium?

2. How do you define the campus?  Is the Polsky Building on Campus?  If so that would mean all of downtown would be "on campus".  Parts of where the football stadium is now were privately owned business (bars).  So there were bars on campus before?

The city was willing at one point to do a joint venture with U of A for an ice arena.

As far as keeping it "out of downtown" why? Columbus built up the area around their convention center with a thriving district. 

"Is the Polsky Building on Campus?  If so that would mean all of downtown would be "on campus". "

You are kidding right? UA ownership of the Polsky Building in no way makes "all of downtown on campus". What an over the top and ridiculous statement to make. UA owns the Rubber Bowl. That must make the air dock and muni airport on campus too according to your thinking. Get back to us when UA buys all of the land that encompasses downtown and closes off Main Street and Broadway for a pedestrian mall/commons and then I'll be happy to entertain your thoughts on the matter. Until then, you are just splitting hairs, blowing smoke and basically being disingenuous.

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« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2009, 11:43:15 AM »
The city would like an arena to attract concerts and conventions and such. The university will need a new arena soon. (With more on campus students who want/will attend games) It seem logical that both parties come together to meet this need.

The city will want it downtown and the University will want it on campus. A logical location is where the campus meets downtown. I'd check into seeing it the ABJ would sell it wearhouse and build the Arena there. Plenty of room edge of downtown and edge of campus.

Or another possibility is to relocate whatever is in that lil building across form the law library and EJT and place the arena there. There wouldn't be room for parking so many will park downtown and that is on campus. Could create an Arts/entertainment district on campus that downtown could advertise to visitors.

I don't think that UA will keep Quaker square after it has built enough dorms. They'll try to sell that off to a hotel chain a few years down the line.

I think the area you mention is just west of UA's law school and south of UA's performing arts hall. From what I've learned, that area is slated for a new law school since C. Blake McDowell is under serious scrutiny and must expand if not rebuild. I like your thinking though. I have the same intuition about Quaker Square as do you.

And, I support UA going at it alone when it comes to building an on-campus (not downtown) multi-purpose arena. There is too much room for incestuous politics that would interfere with UA's vision if they were to engage in a joint venture with the city. The city has a track record of discounting UA's existence in the media in order to dupe people into thinking UA facilities are city of Akron facilities. That is why UA's PAH is still having marketing problems to this date.

Having the UA owned arena on the campus instead of downtown will still meet the entire community's and region's needs and not just downtown. Plus, there is an added bonus of having the prestige and drawing power of an on-campus university arena in our community. It will make Akron look more credible than having a confusing and muddled shell game of an arena downtown.

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« Reply #148 on: July 18, 2009, 12:04:16 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: July 21, 2009, 07:29:35 PM »
Guys, enough of the argument about what's in UA campus boundaries, Downtown boundaries, whatever boundaries.  It's silly, and the tone of the argument is also silly.  If there are any more problems, we'll lock the thread and/or give out some time off as we see necessary.