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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1620 on: June 12, 2018, 02:07:08 PM »
Wow.

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« Reply #1621 on: June 15, 2018, 04:56:19 PM »
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« Reply #1622 on: June 15, 2018, 05:48:38 PM »
That caption re: Danny is pretty damn ominous in hindsight.

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« Reply #1623 on: June 18, 2018, 10:26:00 PM »
Kausek Brothers department store, 6202 St Clair Ave.  Almost 110 years later.

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« Reply #1624 on: June 18, 2018, 10:56:16 PM »
Kausek Brothers department store, 6202 St Clair Ave.  Almost 110 years later.

Looks like 6204 to me.  :)

If it had been on the other side of the street it would likely be 74 years gone....

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« Reply #1625 on: June 19, 2018, 11:10:53 AM »
That caption re: Danny is pretty damn ominous in hindsight.

There had already been multiple attempts on his life by 1975.
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« Reply #1626 on: June 19, 2018, 11:16:39 AM »
That caption re: Danny is pretty damn ominous in hindsight.

My mother knew him and said he was an engaging gentleman - unless he thought you were competition.
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« Reply #1627 on: June 19, 2018, 11:47:33 AM »
That caption re: Danny is pretty damn ominous in hindsight.

My mother knew him and said he was an engaging gentleman - unless he thought you were competition.

Yup, I had family members who worked for him - his son is a very nice guy too

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« Reply #1628 on: June 21, 2018, 01:21:55 PM »
nice 1905 pic of the sheriff street market (1891-1936) -- can you imagine if this structure still existed downtown in this prime shape?

later became central market & a bus garage, etc. -- then finally torn down in the 1980's for gateway




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« Reply #1629 on: June 21, 2018, 02:06:11 PM »
I actually kind of hate this thread.

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« Reply #1630 on: June 21, 2018, 02:15:27 PM »
The area that Gateway and the highway replaced in my opinion is a bigger loss than the WHD. The Haymarket district I think it was technically called? This used to be the commerce hub of Cleveland and was a connecting point for so many main arteries leading into the near Southeast side which at that point had Chicago level urbanity. Now, complete corridors like Woodland, Central, Cedar, Orange are unrecognizable, and the one remaining corridor of potential (Broadway) is completely severed from Downtown by the stadiums, highways, low density industrial etc. Now with the stock of historic conversions basically gone Downtown, could you imagine if we could have just saved all of those buildings and watched the development spread along these corridors.

Broadway will come back, but even when it does, the connectivity is completely gone, and the damage is already done.

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« Reply #1631 on: June 21, 2018, 02:19:28 PM »
The Sheriff St Market was awesome, but most of it had burned down long before Gateway.  Here's all that was left by the time it was demoed: http://frank-dutton.blogspot.com/2017/03/sheriff-street-market.html

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« Reply #1632 on: June 21, 2018, 02:46:04 PM »
The area that Gateway and the highway replaced in my opinion is a bigger loss than the WHD. The Haymarket district I think it was technically called? This used to be the commerce hub of Cleveland and was a connecting point for so many main arteries leading into the near Southeast side which at that point had Chicago level urbanity. Now, complete corridors like Woodland, Central, Cedar, Orange are unrecognizable, and the one remaining corridor of potential (Broadway) is completely severed from Downtown by the stadiums, highways, low density industrial etc. Now with the stock of historic conversions basically gone Downtown, could you imagine if we could have just saved all of those buildings and watched the development spread along these corridors.

Broadway will come back, but even when it does, the connectivity is completely gone, and the damage is already done.

KJP once posted a plan to eliminate that interchange mess by re-routing 77 straight north to the shoreway.  It's crazy they didn't do it like that to begin with.

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« Reply #1633 on: June 22, 2018, 11:40:04 AM »
The area that Gateway and the highway replaced in my opinion is a bigger loss than the WHD. The Haymarket district I think it was technically called? This used to be the commerce hub of Cleveland and was a connecting point for so many main arteries leading into the near Southeast side which at that point had Chicago level urbanity. Now, complete corridors like Woodland, Central, Cedar, Orange are unrecognizable, and the one remaining corridor of potential (Broadway) is completely severed from Downtown by the stadiums, highways, low density industrial etc. Now with the stock of historic conversions basically gone Downtown, could you imagine if we could have just saved all of those buildings and watched the development spread along these corridors.

Broadway will come back, but even when it does, the connectivity is completely gone, and the damage is already done.


yep absolutely -- that is why i always thought the new ballpark should have gone back to league park. it was an opportunity to redevelop a wrigley type neighborhood and could have saved more of the central/haymarket/gateway area space/structures. of course even that would only have perhaps been a partial remedy to the devastation you have described so painfully well.

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« Reply #1634 on: June 22, 2018, 11:43:21 AM »
You might even say... Broadway is dark tonight.... a little bit weaker than it used to be...

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« Reply #1635 on: June 22, 2018, 12:06:03 PM »
streetcars back down bway. that is the dream.

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« Reply #1636 on: June 22, 2018, 01:48:17 PM »
Euclid Ave near Belvoir looking east. I used to live near this area back in the early 80s. Much has changed.
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« Reply #1637 on: June 22, 2018, 08:43:00 PM »
#Cleveland, 1926 - film view from Lake Erie.  https://t.co/5vbOnSDg4e
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« Reply #1638 on: June 22, 2018, 11:15:33 PM »
Amazing. A very eerie video, the lakefront was very clearly a dumping ground for dredging and trash. Its neglect originates from this time period.

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« Reply #1639 on: June 24, 2018, 01:07:52 PM »
I'm genuinely curious but am certain I will never find out, I wonder how many other historical major US cities similar to Cleveland have seen as much historical deconstruction as we have done. Quite depressing.

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« Reply #1640 on: June 24, 2018, 02:28:18 PM »
^I feel like St Louis is worse, they went crazy with Urban Renewal funds and horrible freeways on stilts. I only say worse because St Louis had some really beautiful well made brick buildings and east coast style row homes, higher quality than the stick built stuff in Cleveland. Probably Detroit too.

Viceland's "Abandoned " series had a nice documentary on the beautiful old St Louis Schools that are crumbling.

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« Reply #1641 on: June 25, 2018, 10:34:23 AM »
This was the imaginative home of Nelson Cotabish, mayor of @LakewoodOhio (1910-12) and sales manager for National Carbon (on Madison Ave at West 117th). He got the idea for this house at Detroit and Cohasset Avenues while traveling to Cohasset, MA, with its cobblestone houses. Photos: @Cleve_Memory #CLE



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« Reply #1642 on: June 25, 2018, 10:50:38 PM »
Now Woodland at East 55th is an urban prairie....

In its heyday in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the corner of Woodland and E. 55th was, in the words of bluesman George Hendricks, “like another city--it was like New York.” And one of the brightest spots was Gleason’s Musical Bar. https://t.co/3XS06S3doH #CLE #blues #rnbmusic https://t.co/53oFnmlNOT
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« Reply #1643 on: June 26, 2018, 07:23:05 AM »
Now Woodland at East 55th is an urban prairie....

In its heyday in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the corner of Woodland and E. 55th was, in the words of bluesman George Hendricks, “like another city--it was like New York.” And one of the brightest spots was Gleason’s Musical Bar. https://t.co/3XS06S3doH #CLE #blues #rnbmusic https://t.co/53oFnmlNOT

I literally watched a human being defecate on the corner of 55th and Woodland three weeks ago.

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« Reply #1644 on: June 26, 2018, 09:56:06 AM »

I literally watched a human being defecate on the corner of 55th and Woodland three weeks ago.

So it really is like New York!
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« Reply #1645 on: June 26, 2018, 09:56:29 AM »
Photograph taken from the window of an upper story building of the construction being done on the Cleveland Trust Bank. This building is now the site of our beautiful downtown @Heinens  (wish it was a larger pic)

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« Reply #1646 on: June 28, 2018, 12:09:00 AM »

I literally watched a human being defecate on the corner of 55th and Woodland three weeks ago.

So it really is like New York!


two out of three. jazz clubs and poopers yes. the urban praire is a cleveland specialty.

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« Reply #1647 on: July 01, 2018, 02:51:10 PM »
‘tis the summer season — did anyone see these great shots of blossom through the years on cle dot com?












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« Reply #1648 on: July 01, 2018, 03:17:47 PM »
^ The Beach Boys 50th anniversary show was so epic. Will never forget that one.

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« Reply #1649 on: July 03, 2018, 03:16:09 PM »
I'm going to Blossom for my first time ever this Sunday to see Roger Daltry and the Cleveland Orchestra perform Tommy. Yes, I've never been there. Not a concert guy. Not an outdoors guy. The combination is the answer to that math question.

Meanwhile, here's the only Great Lakes watershed lake-named street that no longer exists in Cleveland. This was about 4-5 years before construction for the Cleveland Union Terminal Group obliterated this canal-era neighborhood SW of Public Square. Note the horse water trough at right and the downhill sloping street....

Looking west down Champlain in 1918 #ThisWasCLE from @Cleveland_PL Digital Gallery
https://cplorg.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p4014coll18/id/3186/rec/40

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