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Offline MidwestChamp

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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1230 on: February 17, 2017, 08:51:44 AM »
Fantastic photo and what an amazing rendering too!  The Terminal Tower complex fooled me at first as well.  Great photo find!

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« Reply #1231 on: February 17, 2017, 09:33:17 AM »
There's only a tiny triangle of river on the far right of the image.  If you're referring to the light patch directly to the right of the Terminal Tower complex as the river, that's actually dirt from the construction.  Its land on which the railroad tracks would sit, which is now parking. 

True. But most of that construction site is now under Huron, Prospect, West 2nd, West 3rd and West 6th, all of which are on bridges over the RTA tracks/station and former 12-track Cleveland Union Terminal tracks/station (now Tower City's The Avenue) with two levels of parking where the trains once ran. The surface parking lot is on the former 9-track coach yard where trains were stored, cleaned, serviced and restocked.

"Traction" tracks are today's rapid transit tracks but it was to be the station for all electric interurban railways coming into Cleveland. "Steam" tracks are for the railroads which used mostly steam locomotives back then but trains serving Cleveland were operated by electric locomotives from Linndale, through CUT, to Collinwood from 1930-1953.

cut-track-final by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

CUT 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

CUT night 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

On the Cuyahoga Valley viaduct -- note that the rapid transit tracks on the bridge to the west side don't yet exist (not until 1954)....
CUT electrics on viaduct-1950s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

CUT train heading west, past West 25th Street....
CUT-electric-W25th-1953s by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

CUT cutaway1m by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

These photos are all from just before opening day, in June 1930...

South end of station below Huron
CUT platforms4 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

East end of station near the opening (where a building was planned but never built) where the Lebron banner is
CUT platforms3 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

West end of railroad station
CUT platforms2 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

Far west end of station, below Huron (the post office building wasn't built yet -- it wasn't completed until 1934)
CUT platforms1 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr
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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1232 on: February 17, 2017, 09:34:34 AM »
Bingham building under construction.






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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1233 on: February 18, 2017, 09:15:38 AM »
Looking for any old photos of the Everready battery factory before it was a brownfield or Battery Park.

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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1234 on: February 18, 2017, 10:05:58 AM »
Looking for any old photos of the Everready battery factory before it was a brownfield or Battery Park.

Best I could find with a quick Google search:




It's just a bit different today, with the next phase of housing (now almost done) just starting construction in this photo from last year:

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« Reply #1235 on: February 19, 2017, 01:11:15 PM »

CUT 1930 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr


Is that a Japanese flag atop the tower?

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« Reply #1236 on: February 20, 2017, 08:04:50 AM »
Is that a Japanese flag atop the tower?

Sure looks like it.
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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1237 on: February 21, 2017, 07:19:23 AM »
Thanks for the photos.

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« Reply #1238 on: March 19, 2017, 04:05:27 PM »
Does anyone have any photos of the old Clark Bridge?  I live in Tremont and always drive by the two stumps at the intersection of Quigley/Clark, so I'm curious what the bridge looked like.  Ive seen the postcard images and also the photo with all of the pollution, but I've yet to see one that enables me to imagine what it would look like today (i.e. If I were driving on Quigley, etc).   

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« Reply #1239 on: March 19, 2017, 05:29:56 PM »
Does anyone have any photos of the old Clark Bridge?  I live in Tremont and always drive by the two stumps at the intersection of Quigley/Clark, so I'm curious what the bridge looked like.  Ive seen the postcard images and also the photo with all of the pollution, but I've yet to see one that enables me to imagine what it would look like today (i.e. If I were driving on Quigley, etc).   

There are some good ones here: http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/search/searchterm/clark%20bridge!MP3%20jpg%20jpeg%20f4v/field/all!format/mode/all!any/conn/and!and/order/nosort/cosuppress/0/page/4

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« Reply #1240 on: March 19, 2017, 05:42:52 PM »
So did it extend all the way to Pershing?  Thanks for the photos.

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« Reply #1241 on: March 19, 2017, 06:15:59 PM »
So did it extend all the way to Pershing?  Thanks for the photos.

Pershing and Clark are the same, just as other east/west roads changed names at the river.

One item about the bridge is that didn't stay at the same elevation as the tops of the east and west sides of the valley. The bridge, or fills in between some of the spans, descended down into the valley, then rose up again to be high enough to cross the river so that ships could pass underneath without the need for a movable span.
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« Reply #1242 on: March 19, 2017, 06:21:08 PM »
It's easy to forget how important a bridge like this must have been before the freeway crossings were built. All the other bridges in the city either took you into downtown congestion or could get stuck open to let ships pass by.

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« Reply #1243 on: March 19, 2017, 07:01:49 PM »
A great photo from that CSU set is this one from 1985, showing the extent of the Flats industrial area. This was near the end of its fully developed, active steel-making facilities. The demolitions were soon to come, starting with the two blast furnaces on either side of the now-gone Clark Avenue bridge -- victims of pollution controls and more cost-effective electric arc furnaces. At the top of the photo, but below MetroHealth hospital, is the west-side mills that shaped the molten steel into coiled sheets, rods, pipes and other usable forms -- and which were closed in the 1990s and later demolished for Steelyard Commons. They became unnecessary with the construction of a labor non-intensive continuous caster just north of the Harvard-Denison bridge. More than 40,000 people worked within the frame of this photo before the 1980s. Fewer than 2,000 work there today.

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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1244 on: March 20, 2017, 02:27:39 PM »
might be posted already, but anyway ...


View east on Central Ave. in 1927 as a freight motor pulls a trailer north on Ontario St. during Central Viaduct closure. (CSU)





cleveland to painesville lakeshore electric run (Case)





i find the enormous old cleveland union depot endlessly fascinating (1864-1959)






interesting 1877 view of it from over lake erie


The 600-foot-long shed of Union Depot had been a source of pride after its construction in 1866


it was so smoky in there someone paid for a billboard!
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Cable Cars [Cleveland City Cable Railway No. 118 streetcar, Wade Park, Payne (museum of the city of ny)





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« Reply #1245 on: March 30, 2017, 02:21:37 PM »
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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1246 on: April 05, 2017, 02:02:55 AM »
Ok, I'm a pretty darn good fanatical Cleveland historical fan and I cannot figure out what the structure just to the left of the Terminal structure is - some type of U shaped building that is under construction?  I don't show any record of anything like this.  Can anyone help me under stand what this is?  Looking at historical and current photos, nothing like this seems to have ever existed here...

Wait, are you serious? That's the Landmark Office Towers. Still standing today...

The U-shaped building under construction is the same one where the LeBron James mural is, facing Ontario as it runs southward towards I-71.

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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1247 on: April 05, 2017, 02:10:14 AM »
I am trying to locate photos of California Alley in the 1880s. This is a street that ran where the One Cleveland Center parking garage currently sits, bounded by East Twelfth and another alleyway that ran parallel to Erie Street (now East Ninth). California Alley itself ran parallel to Oregon (now Rockwell) and St. Clair Avenue. Attached is a Sanborn map of the area I'm describing.
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« Reply #1248 on: April 08, 2017, 07:21:36 AM »
^Have you tried the photo collection at the Cleveland Public Library's main branch? I'm doing research there for a book, but the amount of photos and subject matter is incredible.

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« Reply #1249 on: May 04, 2017, 11:06:28 AM »
I am trying to locate photos of California Alley in the 1880s. This is a street that ran where the One Cleveland Center parking garage currently sits, bounded by East Twelfth and another alleyway that ran parallel to Erie Street (now East Ninth). California Alley itself ran parallel to Oregon (now Rockwell) and St. Clair Avenue. Attached is a Sanborn map of the area I'm describing.


no photos, but i came across a mention of california alley in the cleveland: making of a city book. it's on page 336. somebody formed a jewish congregation there:

https://books.google.com/books?id=IT1NVT1vEwUC&pg=PA336&lpg=PA336&dq=cleveland+california+alley&source=bl&ots=ZlzKkQmtXr&sig=LpG8QUz32GbuZV7PiCFV-kp9fqY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjk3cTRvtbTAhVIMyYKHdA9DvEQ6AEIMDAF#v=onepage&q=cleveland%20california%20alley&f=false

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« Reply #1250 on: May 24, 2017, 01:50:20 PM »
#ThisWasCLE 1880s/2017 - Forest City House in the southwest corner of @CLEPublicSquare. Built as Dunham House in 1848, demolished in 1916.

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« Reply #1251 on: May 24, 2017, 04:13:34 PM »
^ Neat pic, thanks for posting. I'm curious as to how long those structures could have lasted had they not been torn down.

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« Reply #1252 on: May 24, 2017, 04:34:54 PM »
^With proper maintenance, pretty much indefinitely, no?

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« Reply #1253 on: May 24, 2017, 07:25:49 PM »
In the English, Welsh and Irish countrysides, I've eaten in 1,000-year-old pubs made of wood, rocks and grout. Castles and fine hotels are one thing. I expect those to last, at least in Europe. But a roadside pub in the middle of nowhere lasted because a whole lot of nobodies cared for it over the centuries.
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« Reply #1254 on: May 24, 2017, 07:32:38 PM »
When Cleveland looked European...

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Re: Cleveland: Historic Photos
« Reply #1255 on: May 25, 2017, 01:46:49 AM »
^Look at that telephone pole!

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« Reply #1256 on: May 25, 2017, 10:25:19 AM »
^Look at that telephone pole!

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« Reply #1257 on: June 02, 2017, 10:45:58 AM »
More of "European-looking Cleveland". Scene on Superior and The Hollenden hotel in 1892.

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« Reply #1258 on: June 02, 2017, 12:27:31 PM »
^Wish I had a time machine to go back to that very spot just for a day-- the inconveniences and backwards social attitudes would drive me too crazy to spend any more than 1 day's time there, though.

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« Reply #1259 on: June 14, 2017, 09:20:38 AM »
Cleveland 1834/2017 - Euclid Ave. looking west towards Public Square from The Garfield.  2017 image courtesy of @DowntownCLE.  #ThisWasCLE pic.twitter.com/rQqDFreq56
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