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Offline Mov2Ohio

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #780 on: October 10, 2017, 05:23:39 PM »
,^You think Its months, but that's just because you only hear about Hemingway's projects when they're ready to go.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #781 on: November 17, 2017, 09:22:05 AM »
Interesting item on next week's GCRTA board agenda:

http://www.riderta.com/sites/default/files/pdf/presentations/BoardAgenda_11-21-17.pdf
2017-100 - Authorizing the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority to enter into a puchase and sale agreement with Little Italy Development LLC, an Ohio Limited Liability Company, for the purchase of land in fee simple and two permanent easements located at the Little Italy-University Circle Rapid Transit Station and power substation, Cleveland, Ohio for $139,500.00

Little Italy Development LLC is Terry Coyne's company, but also has as partners the Geis and Asher families. They sold 1.2 acres of land to GCRTA for $860,000. I sure hope that Little Italy Development LLC isn't getting all 1.2 acres back for just $139,500! http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/08/land_purchase_clears_way_for_c.html

This is what Coyne/Geis/Asher proposed there: http://www.terrycoyne.com/ourproperties/detail_printable.asp?id=271

Wonder how this affects Tim Perotti's proposed 40-unit apartment building next to the station, fronting Mayfield. Perhaps @mjarboe has some insight?
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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #782 on: November 18, 2017, 06:58:05 AM »
This is what Coyne/Geis/Asher proposed there:

Wonder how this affects Tim Perotti's proposed 40-unit apartment building next to the station, fronting Mayfield. Perhaps @mjarboe has some insight?
I hope they change it so that it fronts the street better and doesn't completely block off traffic going through that road/parking lot.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #783 on: November 18, 2017, 02:10:20 PM »
Hi,
Interesting item on next week's GCRTA board agenda:
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Little Italy Development LLC is Terry Coyne's company, but also has as partners the Geis and Asher families. They sold 1.2 acres of land to GCRTA for $860,000. I sure hope that Little Italy Development LLC isn't getting all 1.2 acres back for just $139,500!

First of all, thank you so much for all your posts and sharing your knowledge.
I'm confused with which parcels this agreement is in reference too. Doesn't the Little Italy Development LLC already own the long parcel next to the station?

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #784 on: November 18, 2017, 06:12:17 PM »
It looks like Little Italy Development LLC would acquire the grassy strip between the parking lot and the tracks, north of the station headhouse (entry and substation). If so, looks like every inch of land not being used by RTA here is part of some development. Land really is a premium here.
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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #785 on: December 05, 2017, 12:31:08 PM »
Interesting item on next week's GCRTA board agenda:

http://www.riderta.com/sites/default/files/pdf/presentations/BoardAgenda_11-21-17.pdf
2017-100 - Authorizing the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority to enter into a puchase and sale agreement with Little Italy Development LLC, an Ohio Limited Liability Company, for the purchase of land in fee simple and two permanent easements located at the Little Italy-University Circle Rapid Transit Station and power substation, Cleveland, Ohio for $139,500.00

Little Italy Development LLC is Terry Coyne's company, but also has as partners the Geis and Asher families. They sold 1.2 acres of land to GCRTA for $860,000. I sure hope that Little Italy Development LLC isn't getting all 1.2 acres back for just $139,500! http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/08/land_purchase_clears_way_for_c.html

This is what Coyne/Geis/Asher proposed there: http://www.terrycoyne.com/ourproperties/detail_printable.asp?id=271

Wonder how this affects Tim Perotti's proposed 40-unit apartment building next to the station, fronting Mayfield. Perhaps @mjarboe has some insight?

My mistake. I have since learned that GCRTA is buying this land and easement FROM Little Italy Development LLC so that GCRTA can build a new power substation here.
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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #786 on: December 05, 2017, 12:39:45 PM »
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/index.php
   
Case 17-065
Little Italy Historic District
2087 Random Road
Demolition and New Construction of Apartments
Ward 6
Griffin
Stephen Bucchieri
Bucchieri Architects























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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #787 on: December 05, 2017, 12:43:33 PM »
My reaction? It looks like a military-style office building that doesn't want to be a part of the neighborhood.
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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #788 on: December 05, 2017, 12:44:27 PM »
I hate it.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #789 on: December 05, 2017, 01:09:51 PM »
Yikes.  I hope design review is all over this one.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #790 on: December 05, 2017, 01:15:44 PM »
Wow.....Thats horrible......It looks like an medical office building from the 70's

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #792 on: December 05, 2017, 01:35:59 PM »
I didn't realize the bar could get this low for newly designed architecture.  It's like they got the plans from an Ollie's.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #793 on: December 05, 2017, 01:39:34 PM »
I actually like the office-building design. The window pattern makes a very interesting view from inside the units.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/image/2087_Random_IMG_26.jpg

The street presence is awful though. When I see metal gates and walled-off elevations, I assume they are trying to address security concerns. There has to be a way to "friendly up" the design. Whether that's putting the garage below grade and elevating the first floor above the garage, or simply putting an apartment on the first floor along the sidewalk.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #794 on: December 05, 2017, 06:50:11 PM »
Commie Block architecture is making a comeback :)

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #795 on: December 06, 2017, 09:35:33 AM »
Comrade Yabo say design remind him of time growing up in hometown of Chernobyl.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #796 on: December 06, 2017, 01:52:22 PM »
Kinda reminds me of the living accommodations in the Sci-fi classic THX-1138.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #797 on: December 06, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »
I really don't want to dislike it... but damnit, it's just not that pleasant.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #798 on: December 06, 2017, 04:48:42 PM »
Renderings are usually supposed to help sell/promote a project, so I find that the real thing rarely looks as good as the renderings. That's not a good sign for this project where even the renderings look bad.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #799 on: December 08, 2017, 02:47:14 PM »
Wow check out those LA-style pilotis and parking under housing. Isn't that rather soulless and out of touch with the surroundings... Dingbat buildings are making a comeback?

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #800 on: December 08, 2017, 05:15:41 PM »
Communism is back, baby.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #801 on: December 08, 2017, 07:32:32 PM »
A Cleveland dingbat!

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #802 on: December 08, 2017, 07:59:59 PM »
If this was on Mayfield or Murray Hill I'd say no way.   But Random's always been kind of.......well, you know.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #803 on: December 09, 2017, 08:48:49 AM »
Fits in as well as the awful Case dorms from the 1960s and 70s nearby.  Would love to see pictures of what was lost to make those monstrous blocks on north and south campus 50 years ago.

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Re: Cleveland: Little Italy: Development and News
« Reply #804 on: December 11, 2017, 08:05:27 AM »
Fits in as well as the awful Case dorms from the 1960s and 70s nearby.  Would love to see pictures of what was lost to make those monstrous blocks on north and south campus 50 years ago.

That's where I lived for a semester and a half LOL, I had a Murray Hill Road address.  Edgehill/Cornell was always considered the borderline between the campus and LI.