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Author Topic: Cleveland: Detroit-Shoreway / Gordon Square Arts District: Development and News  (Read 12059 times)

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2006, 08:42:02 AM »
Agreed, Blinker...great updates!  The curbside parking, as you know, was one of my first questions for you.  How will businesses react?  Also, as Straphanger mentioned, this is an ages-old tool for buffering pedestrian from auto traffic.  Interesting, nonetheless. 

I like the sidewalk widening and especially the focus on W. 65th as a "place."  This is one of Cleveland's most unique and historic intersections and the hub of a vibrant neighborhood.  It should be treated as such!

Cleveland Cinema's interest in the Capitol Theatre appears to me to be a good sign, as does the creative financing scheme.  You must be learning a lot about these things!  DSCDO is one of the most innovative and effective CDCs in this regard.

Also, I thought that the NWT was going to have some sort of office space in the old Lou's Furniture building, but that may have just been the lobby.  I'm surprised that they wouldn't still want to retain this, even with a restaurant front (which I think is a great idea).  What will the lack of a Detroit Ave. facade do for their visibility and for the street's activity?  It all remains to be seen!

One last question...somewhere in there, are there plans to remove that awful dumpster dock/bay from West 67th, north of Detroit?  I can't believe that's allowed!

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2006, 09:43:36 AM »
Regarding the loss of street parking: That is actually something that is being discussed with local business owners. I think the general feeling is that enhancing the street's walkability will generate more pedestrian traffic, thereby making up for the loss of parking. With the widening of the sidewalks, too, traffic will be slowed and the need for a "buffer" from the street will be less acute. The whole plan aims to give priority to pedestrians rather than cars, particularly at the 65th/Detroit intersection.

MGD, exactly what dumpster dock are you talking about?

As for NWT's visibility: The hope is to acquire the one-story TRD Leather building, just to the east of Lou's, demolish it and create a plaza in front of NWT's new building, thereby giving it greater visibility from Detroit. But even if that didn't happen, the new building would be easily seen from Detroit.
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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2006, 09:58:11 AM »
A plaza?  I think it's a bad idea to get rid of an existing business to create a plaza in an area that doesn't have the pedestrian activity to keep that plaza active.

Besides that, I think that the goings on in Gordon Square are very exciting!

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2006, 10:17:15 AM »
Is the leather shop still open?  I like the idea of a plaza that creates another node of activity on Detroit.  The only thing I'd miss is the opportunity for a marquee on Detroit for the new theater!

The dumpster in question is on W.67th, attached to the Gordon Sq. building, and hangs over the sidewalk on the east side of the street, just north of Detroit.  I've grumbled at it several times in passing, but it's always there the next time I come back!

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #64 on: February 10, 2006, 10:23:43 AM »
I'll try to ask around about that dumpster.
Yes, the leather shop is still operating. I see your point in a way about getting rid of it... but keep in mind, there's another leather store just a couple blocks east on Detroit (next to the Romanian Orthodox church) to take care of all your leather needs! ;)

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2006, 10:26:12 AM »
One store can't handle "all" of my leather needs!

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2006, 12:11:14 PM »
^ TMI (too much information)
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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2006, 11:11:53 AM »
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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2006, 02:10:36 PM »
Breaking news from the Arts District! :clap:

A lease has been signed for the Kennedy Building, on the SE corner of Detroit & W. 65th. The tenant will be a bakery/coffehouse/lunch place called Gypsy Beans & Baking Co., owned by the former manager of Talkies Coffee House in Ohio City.
The owner recently purchased Ohio City Muffins and will be moving operations of the bakery to the space.
Significant build-out will begin soon, with an anticipated opening date of July 1.

This is fantastic news for the neighborhood, and a harbinger of more good things to come!

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« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2006, 07:40:41 PM »
Good news. What's the owner's name?
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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2006, 09:21:20 PM »
Breaking news from the Arts District! :clap:

A lease has been signed for the Kennedy Building, on the SE corner of Detroit & W. 65th. The tenant will be a bakery/coffehouse/lunch place called Gypsy Beans & Baking Co., owned by the former manager of Talkies Coffee House in Ohio City.
The owner recently purchased Ohio City Muffins and will be moving operations of the bakery to the space.
Significant build-out will begin soon, with an anticipated opening date of July 1.

This is fantastic news for the neighborhood, and a harbinger of more good things to come!
did you see Nicki at the market today too? She just told us about this. I think she will do a great job.I hope we can all support her!

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Re: Cleveland: Detroit/Shoreway & Gordon Square Arts District Developments
« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2006, 08:29:01 AM »
^No, I work at Detroit-Shoreway's CDC.
KJP, her name is Nicole (something). I forget the last name. Peabody?

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« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2006, 08:53:15 AM »
No I know Nicki (aka Nicole) from when she worked at talkies. She will do a nice job I think, very hard working person. I love that little stretch of street on Detroit. I was once there...I think at the Vietnamese market (cannot remember) and parked in front of a drug store that had photo essay of people's stories with mental illness ...it was terrific. sometimes people in this community get overwhelmed or frustrated with people with disabilities-as there are many, and this did a nice job of putting their stories to life. One of the best things about the area, is that despite gentrification, there is a rich history of social services that seems to be maintaining it self. I hope this does not change. I am joining the near west side developmental corp, as a resident (I hope other forumers in hood do as well!)...but have huge interest in maintaining social services in the area, as I work in that field with folks with in Detroit Shoreway, Ohio City, Tremont neighborhoods. I will give kudos to the folks who own lease apartments in building on Gordon square-very supportive and welcoming of our clients with developmental disabilities. Blinker-what a cool job you must have!

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« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2006, 08:17:25 PM »
Thanks!
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So what is the latest from the Gordon Square Arts District, you may ask?

1. We have another firm lease signed, by M% Gallery, currently located on Larchmere. The gallery will move to the P.J. Shier building (former adult bookstore) on Detroit circa fall. The owner lives in the neighborhood and wanted a shorter commute.

2. A major restaurateur is in talks to purchase the old Perry Family Restaurant building and turn it into -- what else? -- a family-oriented restaurant.

3. The new bar by the owner of the Treehouse, Pete Lenaghan, will be called Ballycroy. It is on W. 65th north of Detroit and is slated to open this fall. Lenaghan has spent $2 million on renovation.

4. Gypsy Beans & Baking started build-out on their new space in the Kennedy Building at W. 65th and Detroit, but work seems to have come to a screeching halt. We're hoping they're open by fall.

5. Scaffolding is down from the old Lou's Furniture building (now called Near West Lofts), which should be online by September. I toured the apartments last month and they will have gorgeous views and wood floors. The other buildings in the Gordon Square Homes project are also on track to be open this fall.

Other things are simmering retail-development-wise but these are the most prominent.

As for the Arts District capital campaign, the three member organizations (Detroit-Shoreway, Near West Theatre and Cleveland Public Theatre) are on the verge of signing a memorandum of understanding outlining their shared goals and responsibilities. We are almost done with an economic impact analysis and parking study and have started a green building analysis. We are in the process of forming our capital campaign committee to lead our $20 million capital effort. I know, nothing too sexy yet, but it's all important groundwork.
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Wow, B12, sounds like you got plenty of cool stuff keeping you busy over there,  thanks for the update!

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Did someone buy that cool little church next to Cleveland Public Theater?  Any plans for it?

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hot!  well done B12...keep up the good work...and keep us informed!

any input on the name Ballycroy? 

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That church is owned by James Levin, and finds its way in and out of the Arts District plan almost daily. His long-term goal is to have it become an acoustic music hall, or to have Cleveland Public Theatre acquire it. No one has bought it from him yet, and I don't think he even has it listed on PURE anymore, but I'm sure he'd be more than willing to talk to any interested buyers.

Meanwhile, the Parish Hall next to the church is now permanent home to the Miller-Weitzel Gallery, previously located at 5304 Detroit.

Oh, the Ballycroy will have an indoor bocce ball (sp?) court.
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how about table top shuffleboard?

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Ballycroy is a city in County Mayo Ireland, where the Leneghans are from.

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^gotchya.  thanks!

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Some photos from today.


The old Lou's furniture, with scaffolding removed and new windows, Detroit and W. 67th.


The back of Lou's from W. 67th, with Near West Theatre's site in the foreground.


The P.J. Shier building. Future home of M% Gallery. Detroit between 65th and 67th.


The Kennedy building, on the far corner, will be the new home to Gypsy Beans & Baking. Detroit and W. 65th.


The unique Muriel Building, part of the Gordon Square Homes project, Detroit and W. 70th.

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so, who's going to come up with the money for them to bury those power lines?  I know that a sidewalk widening may be in the works for this busy intersection and it would be a shame to miss out on an opportunity like that.  Though, I hear it's quite expensive to do...

Thanks for the shots, B12!  Exciting stuff!

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MGD, power line burial is supposedly part of the streetscape plan. Though streetscape is budgeted at about $4 million, which seems low to include new sidewalks, lighting, street narrowing AND burial. Who knows.

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The planning Commission approved a plan last Friday that will bury the power lines in the Kamm's Corner area.
It was on the summary calendar, so there was no discussion.

I wonder if there has ever been a study comparing the cost of underground and overhead utilities.
I would think that the periodic cost of replacing poles hit by vehicles, storm damage, and normal wear and tear would be higher over time then the upfront cost of burying.

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^Good question regarding relative costs.  The one down side of burying is the jack-hammering (which apparently must be at 7:30am right outside my apartment) required to repair/replace cables.  I'm still for it though.  Looks sooooo much better.

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I like having overhead wires crisscrossing the city streets.  Visually it gives the street a bit of a ceiling and adds to the clutter of urban streetscapes.  I say leave them.

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I hate overhead utilities.  It looks so 70s and gives the impression the city is uncosmopolitan.  I say bury them throughout the city and FAST!

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I don't think the area around W65th and Detroit is going for the pristine, cosmopolitian look that certain parts of downtown should maybe be going for.  Stripping away layers of urbanity doesn't make a more enjoyable setting, just take a look at what has happened to Coventry.  It's a shell of it's former self urbanistically.