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« Reply #1680 on: July 15, 2018, 10:13:26 PM »
wow...  transition almost as amazing as playhouse square theaters...

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« Reply #1681 on: July 16, 2018, 07:40:39 AM »
the bldg by 30th and euclid doesn't look that different.  maybe some internal fixes?


It looks like they are making changes to the curtain wall, (The exterior wall with the metal panels and windows), and adding signage. It's hard to tell since the "after" rendering is in black and white.

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« Reply #1683 on: July 19, 2018, 01:17:23 PM »
Another random question: Does anyone know the history about the Brownstone Inn on Prospect Ave? I've always thought it was a pretty interesting building that has tons of potential.

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« Reply #1684 on: July 24, 2018, 10:47:58 PM »
A not too exciting progress pic of the future Tru Hilton at 69th&Euclid.

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« Reply #1685 on: July 25, 2018, 05:40:22 AM »
the pic excites me....   that part of midtown can still seem pretty dead....   the new hotel and grocery store make me hopeful for a bit more life....   
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« Reply #1686 on: July 25, 2018, 09:53:17 AM »
I'm excited to see more development happening in Mid-Town, but is there any chance anything taller than 100ft will get built? With all the open space in the area, I feel like it's the perfect opportunity to add density and essentially develop another downtown like feel. Wouldn't be too bad to extend the skyline as well....

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« Reply #1687 on: July 25, 2018, 10:10:00 AM »
First, Cleveland would need to grow population and jobs.

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« Reply #1688 on: July 25, 2018, 11:10:37 AM »
First, Cleveland would need to grow population and jobs.

To be slightly more optimistic, this PART of Cleveland needs to grow jobs and population.  In terms of the former, the progress in the last decade has been pretty remarkable.  The Health Corridor, the new Rainbow Womens & Children hospital, and the office buildings Geis and others built on spec have created some momentum.  Not to mention the Cleveland Clinic just down the street.  The jobs seem to be coming left and right; hopefully residential and attendant mixed uses will follow.

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« Reply #1689 on: July 25, 2018, 01:19:37 PM »
I'm excited to see more development happening in Mid-Town, but is there any chance anything taller than 100ft will get built? With all the open space in the area, I feel like it's the perfect opportunity to add density and essentially develop another downtown like feel. Wouldn't be too bad to extend the skyline as well....

That is, unfortunately, the opposite of how things work.  Density develops a little at a time, as land becomes more scarce and expensive.  When you have a large surplus of land, it is cheap, and so development tends to be more low rise and spread out.  As things get built, though, the land gets more scarce and expensive, and therefore higher densities are needed by the developers to make projects work.  Also, the success of previous projects makes it more likely that developers can get financing and tenants to achieve more ambitious projects.

Midtown is still early in this process- but it is making strides!

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« Reply #1690 on: July 25, 2018, 10:20:53 PM »
I'm excited to see more development happening in Mid-Town, but is there any chance anything taller than 100ft will get built? With all the open space in the area, I feel like it's the perfect opportunity to add density and essentially develop another downtown like feel. Wouldn't be too bad to extend the skyline as well....

That is, unfortunately, the opposite of how things work.  Density develops a little at a time, as land becomes more scarce and expensive.  When you have a large surplus of land, it is cheap, and so development tends to be more low rise and spread out.  As things get built, though, the land gets more scarce and expensive, and therefore higher densities are needed by the developers to make projects work.  Also, the success of previous projects makes it more likely that developers can get financing and tenants to achieve more ambitious projects.

Midtown is still early in this process- but it is making strides!

University Circle is more of Cleveland's "second Downtown" than MidTown. There isn't a lot of space, and has more immediate opportunities to build up. Its already expanding out into other neighborhoods -"Circle North", into MidTown, etc. It also has One University Circle as its litmus test for taller buildings. The inner west side is also (I think) more likely to see taller buildings, at least apartment projects. MidTown is a very large space with a lot of vacancy that's attractive to campus style developments like Link 59, Pierres, Applied Industrial Technologies, etc. It's also attractive for townhomes and shorter mixed-use development with more floor space like the Innova project. Maybe one day it'll be littered with some taller buildings, but we'd need businesses and residents to fill that need.

Side note, will MidTown ever become a "real" neighborhood versus a conglomerate of other neighborhoods?

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« Reply #1691 on: July 25, 2018, 11:02:32 PM »
Doubtful, unless there is a massive population influx. Neigborhoods today that are arguably flourishing, like the ones west, never became no man's land wastelands like so much of Midtown. Tremont had a rough time in the 70s and 80s, but it was still a real neighborhood with homes, commercial activity, and a healthy mix of middle and working class near the low income households. Also, racially, yeah, it was still somewhat diverse, and that balance had a huge impact in slowing a total collapse.

Midtown... a much sadder fall without such stabilizing forces. Gays, hipsters, foreigners, artists, millenials, boomerangs, commercial developers - yeah, they're just not interested. Too many other affordable options out there
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« Reply #1692 on: July 26, 2018, 07:46:57 PM »
Driving up Euclid today I was trying to remember what is being built at the corner of 36th and Euclid. Then I remembered this.

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« Reply #1693 on: July 26, 2018, 07:58:47 PM »
Great, more useless green space across the street from... more useless unusable green space. What a waste.

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« Reply #1694 on: July 26, 2018, 08:37:17 PM »
Doubtful, unless there is a massive population influx. Neigborhoods today that are arguably flourishing, like the ones west, never became no man's land wastelands like so much of Midtown. Tremont had a rough time in the 70s and 80s, but it was still a real neighborhood with homes, commercial activity, and a healthy mix of middle and working class near the low income households. Also, racially, yeah, it was still somewhat diverse, and that balance had a huge impact in slowing a total collapse.

Midtown... a much sadder fall without such stabilizing forces. Gays, hipsters, foreigners, artists, millenials, boomerangs, commercial developers - yeah, they're just not interested. Too many other affordable options out there

I think this is more than a little too pessimistic!  While Midtown isn't going to be an upscale urban fantasy-land anytime soon, the amount of development over the last decade or so makes me quite optimistic that it is turning into an at least functional urban corridor. 

Consider:
-Multiple tech incubators/office buildings built or under construction
-Dealer Tire HQ
-UH facility/Link59
-Dave's Supermarket
-Tru Hilton
-New Cleveland Children's Museum
-renovated Agora and Masonic Auditorium
-residential reuse of office buildings creeping eastward from CSU
-new townhouses

It's just too easy to get wrapped up in all Midtown isn't and forget the progress it has seen.

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« Reply #1695 on: July 26, 2018, 09:21:48 PM »
It's not going to be hipsterland, but I think there's going to be enough people who are going to want to live near the hospitals that will help to build up some kind of a modest resident base.

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« Reply #1696 on: July 27, 2018, 10:45:49 AM »
It's not going to be hipsterland, but I think there's going to be enough people who are going to want to live near the hospitals that will help to build up some kind of a modest resident base.

I'm currently on the market for a house as many of you know. Catch 22 with Midtown is that the new construction where we feel safe is out of our price range, and the homes we like would be in our price range, including big renovations, but aren't on safe streets.

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« Reply #1697 on: July 27, 2018, 11:09:33 AM »
MidTown Gets A Modern Makeover

The One Midtown Townhomes are part of the neighborhood's $152 million in new development expected to be completed in 2018.


There’s a change coming to MidTown.

On a swath of Millionaires’ Row once home to shipbuilder and real estate magnate Morris A. Bradley, One Midtown’s 23 luxury townhomes are attempting to restore some of the former glory to the oft forgotten stretch of Euclid Avenue.

“In the early 1900s, it represented [one of] the wealthiest neighborhoods in the entire world,” says Justin Campbell, director of luxury sales for Signature Collection. “What we’re looking to do is bring that high-end residential component back.”

https://clevelandmagazine.com/at-home/articles/midtown-gets-a-modern-makeover#.W1sWa3sLK94.twitter

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« Reply #1698 on: July 27, 2018, 11:30:25 AM »
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« Reply #1699 on: August 01, 2018, 09:56:13 AM »


A design lover's inside look at the newly renovated Agora Theatre & Ballroom
http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/Agora071918.aspx
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« Reply #1700 on: August 08, 2018, 01:10:06 PM »
Vintage Tea & Coffee
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Have you visited our new spot in midtown Cleveland? We’re in our soft opening phase, offering a partial menu. We’re here from 7:30am to 3pm during weekdays. We’d love to see you!!!



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« Reply #1701 on: August 08, 2018, 04:12:50 PM »
Where are they in Midtown?

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« Reply #1702 on: August 08, 2018, 04:24:44 PM »
Link 59 building
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« Reply #1703 on: August 08, 2018, 04:53:18 PM »
Cool, glad to see some retail going in there.

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« Reply #1704 on: August 08, 2018, 05:46:26 PM »
Where are they in Midtown?
Looks like Link 59 based off of the orange in the picture.

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« Reply #1705 on: August 08, 2018, 06:47:48 PM »
I don't see any of the pictures that some people post for some reason.  In fact, nothing even marks that they are supposed to be there, but missing.

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« Reply #1706 on: August 08, 2018, 07:16:06 PM »
Mine were photos they posted with their tweet.
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