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Offline glutmax

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2006, 11:15:13 AM »
But there families are.

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« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2006, 11:22:54 AM »
But there families are.

"there" or "their"?  Anyway, the families are most likely using the negotiated rates.  Also, if my kid is playing in a basketball tourney, I highly doubt that a family is going out to restaurants, renting cars (as they most likely will be driving to a place on the campus of OSU) so they aren't staying at a hotel.  Bars/Clubs/Lounges don't cater to underaged minors.

It just doesn't add up.
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2006, 11:32:24 AM »
I'm just trying to explain how columbus pulls more "tourist" money than Cleveland/Cuyahoga county per the above article (and I know, I'm sure the methodology is flawed).  Your explanation, please.  And I do regret the grammatical error, my apologies (additoin?)  :wink:.
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2006, 12:33:25 PM »
I think one of the reasons why Cleveland gets more positive press and for a limited amount Cincinnati is the pro-sports.

From my personal experience this is true. Recently a co-worker asked me where I was from, when I said Cleveland he replied: "You must love the Browns, they have some of the best fans." Something about Cleveland sports is mentioned by the other party when I'm asked that question.


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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2006, 03:25:04 PM »
Where would one find the numbers for tourists to Ohio cities?

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2006, 09:49:31 AM »
and Columbus has the German Village which blows away the entire state of Florida.

I'm surprised Columbus is a bigger tourism draw than Cleveland... (though I would rather visit Columbus myself)... I would assume much of that is do to OSU and Easton.

Cleveland was at the epicenter of the last recession. It's nice to see it's recovering well from that time. The amount of bad press/negative views Cleveland gets, it's amazing that $4.5 billion gets spent there.

But Cleveland also had the most incredible PR campaign ever in the 90s... with the whole "Cleveland Rocks" thing and the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame and the Flats (which everyone outside of Cleveland still thinks exists) and Drew Carrey.  At least from my experience... Cleveland had a rather positive perception amongst the general population (much more so than Pittsburgh or Cincinnati).  And though Columbus is now approaching Cleveland's metro in population... Cleveland has always been perceived as offering more of a "big-city" experience with its theaters, museums and other attractions... which is why I'm surprised it doesn't compete with Columbus concerning tourist dollars. 

Rant on>>

When was there ever a PR campaign for Cleveland and the Rock Hall?

The HOF folks never wanted the museum in Cleveland. It took a grass-roots effort of monumental proportion to get it there. The HOF folks wanted it in LA, NYC, Memphis and all other sorts of places. But the people in Cleveland damn near willed it to the city when there was the "balloting" for where the Rock Hall would be. Cleveland put up three times the votes of the second place finisher -- Memphis. Even when it was decided, Rolling Stone magazine went on a tirade about putting it there. I'll never forget an mid-90's interview with that Swan-wearing no-talent Bjork when they asked her what she thought of Cleveland. She said there was no difference between C-land and small town Utah. Then on top of all that crap, the HOF folks still have the induction ceremony in NYC. They bitched and moaned for the first five years about declining attendance numbers, although I believe it's turned that corner much to their surprise. PR campaign, my ass.

As for other preceptions of Cleveland, lets be honest:

The river caught on fire 35 years ago.

The mayor's hair caught on fire 30 years ago.

No Cleveland team has won shit in 40 years.
The Browns move to Baltimore and win a SB 5 years after they left.

Unfortunately, Cleveland is still associated with loser.

When the Browns played the Skins in a preseason game a few years back. The Skins pre game show announcer referenced "The Mistake by the Lake" four times.

"Major League" which is still shown like clockwork, while entertaining as shit, makes Cleveland out to be a dump. Likewise with "American Splendor". "Antoine Fisher" shows the beauty of San Diego...and makes Cleveland look like a crime ridden s-hole that you must flee in order to have a better life. 

Oh yeah, lets not forget the "Mistake by the Lake". While Pittsburgh gets the "The Steel City" moniker and Cincinnati gets the "The Queen City", we are relegated that stupid crap. And yet somehow, according to you, Cleveland is looked upon as better by the general population?

Drew Carey is another example. NBC didn't believe the show would believe his show would work because it was based in Cleveland. He had to damn near beg ABC to base the show in Cleveland. Both networks thought Chicago would be "more believeable". As far as I know it's the only TV show in the past 25 years based in Cleveland....and it took someone from Cleveland to make it happen. Pittsburgh on the other hand gets shown in a fair amount a flicks and as used as backdrop city on TV shows all the time. "The Guardian" being the last. Cincy gets the screw as much as Cleveland in that regard.

Living somewhere outside Ohio, do you know what's it like when someone asks you where you're from and then when you say it you almost have to wince because you don't know what stupid crap is gonna come out of their mouth? It's more than just that stupid Red-state hick crap. There's "Did they put the fire out?", "Aren't you glad you live here now" and of course "I'm sorry". The last response usually gets a "f#ck you" from me and the subject is dropped. The only people not from Cleveland who have ever said anything positive about the place, in my experience, are people that lived there for a period, who ususally say "it's not nearly as bad as I had heard." No shit!

The only advantage to having Cleveland shit on all the time, is that people know where it is. (Probably more so than Pitt or Cincy.) And it's not just in the US, but throughout the world. When I go to Japan, I'd say 9 out of 10 people know Cleveland (mostly from "Major League", and that Japanese gay porn-star pitcher the Indians had for a while.)

I find it really hard to believe that Cleveland is coming out neutral in these polls. Maybe it is, but I have yet to see it in my experience living outside Ohio.

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2006, 10:16:27 AM »
I think one of the reasons why Cleveland gets more positive press and for a limited amount Cincinnati is the pro-sports.

From my personal experience this is true. Recently a co-worker asked me where I was from, when I said Cleveland he replied: "You must love the Browns, they have some of the best fans." Something about Cleveland sports is mentioned by the other party when I'm asked that question.

Winning sports teams do a lot for a city's image. Let's hope that Lebron & Co. have a very successful year.

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2006, 10:29:03 AM »
This is about columbus folks.......lets get back to the topic as this is starting to sound like a "comparison" thread. :-D

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #98 on: November 06, 2006, 12:34:30 PM »
The only advantage to having Cleveland shit on all the time, is that people know where it is. (Probably more so than Pitt or Cincy.)

I generally found that all three are known equally, internationally (due to the "unique" names, I suppose...and sports...).
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #99 on: November 06, 2006, 12:35:08 PM »
This is about columbus folks.......lets get back to the topic as this is starting to sound like a "comparison" thread. :-D

Well, a Columbus thread isn't a Columbus thread without Clevelanders talking about random stuff in a Columbus thread.
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« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2006, 01:27:00 PM »
I think Columbus can go small with its marketing image and do quite well.

As a city, Columbus doesn't have any big bad stuff to live down (unless you're attending classes in Ann Arbor), but at the same time, it doesn't have much to live up to, either. The Zoo and COSI ostensibly are attractions, but neither generate much enthusiasm. The capitol; the largest public university; cutting edge malls. Bo-ring.

So, what does Columbus have? Here's what: exactly enough fun for one couples (gay or straight) weekend getaway, and enough left over to tease you back for more.

You can park the car or cab in from the airport and enjoy awesome, centrally located accomodations and a boatload of restaurants, parks and places to walk to. Throw in a show at The Palace or Ohio, a cheap cab out to the Franklin Park Conservatory, a meal and a drink and a healthy dose of people watching in the Short North, a spin through the art museum, an afternoon of gallery hopping and shopping and maybe a game/event at the Nationwide Arena, and boom, you've blown a weekend on foot and on your ass.

Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2006, 01:30:15 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2006, 01:34:51 PM »
I'm not sure where we stand on this discussion, but I'd have to say Columbus right now is very "accessible." I mean by that, Columbus has some really nice Web sites and programs...The "Experience Columbus" site and the living downtown site and Retro Metro and Metro-Rentals....Plus Columbus Alive is a good little "unbiased" way to attract young people.

Columbus might be a little less "known" but I think the brand is building slowly but surely! Bring on those streetcars! And build up density downtown.

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2006, 01:48:44 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

SoHo????????  Child please!

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2006, 01:54:14 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

SoHo????????  Child please!

This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant.

Tsk tsk.
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2006, 02:02:02 PM »
^ ALL I knows is comparin' New Yahk to anyplace else...fogettaboutit! That's my crappy Internet NYC accent.

But, as an obnoxious kid from Long Island told these Irish tourists on the Staten Island Ferry: "New York. It's the best city in the world!! Also, don't you love Guinness?"

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2006, 02:06:57 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

SoHo????????  Child please!

This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant.

Tsk tsk.

Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons.  I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2006, 02:09:42 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

SoHo????????  Child please!

This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant.

Tsk tsk.

Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons.  I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC

Wait wait wait...(as a person who's ALSO lived in New York [BK BABY!] in their lifetime)...CLEVELAND and New York neighborhoods can be compared but COLUMBUS neighborhoods and New York can't be...?  That's just silly.

Next.
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2006, 02:15:23 PM »
i'm so lost, its not funny.

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2006, 02:18:04 PM »
i'm so lost, its not funny.
According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue!  Not sure of the cross street though.

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« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2006, 02:21:17 PM »
i'm so lost, its not funny.
According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue!  Not sure of the cross street though.

so how does payne ave compare to soho?

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« Reply #111 on: November 06, 2006, 02:25:31 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

SoHo????????  Child please!

This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant.

Tsk tsk.

Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons.  I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC

Wait wait wait...(as a person who's ALSO lived in New York [BK BABY!] in their lifetime)...CLEVELAND and New York neighborhoods can be compared but COLUMBUS neighborhoods and New York can't be...?  That's just silly.

Next.

BK, cuando y donde?  Its not silly...Cleveland can easily be compared with NYC as I laid out in a previous message. 

Sorry, columbus city proper might be larger than Cleveland, but its still a college town.     If ohio state wasn't located in Columbus, it would a smaller blip on the map than it already is!  ummmm   That's all!

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2006, 02:26:31 PM »
i'm so lost, its not funny.
According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue!  Not sure of the cross street though.

so how does payne ave compare to soho?

not even in the same ballpark!  now Dumbo or the williamsburg/green point areas.  I see payne going in that direction

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« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2006, 02:34:13 PM »
It's almost too much of a delusional post to even respond to.

Or perhaps it's MyTwoSense's joking?!?!

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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2006, 02:38:16 PM »
No city compares to NYC.

Is that what we want to hear? Okay fine. Moving on...

As far as your garden variety midwest tourist is concerned, Columbus offers at least a weekend's worth of big-city feeling and attractions, sans the grit, distance and pricetag of NYC.

And again, let me reiterate: no city compares to NYC.

Especially if you have a trust fund.

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« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2006, 02:39:50 PM »
^Heh.
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« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2006, 02:44:12 PM »
It's almost too much of a delusional post to even respond to.

Or perhaps it's MyTwoSense's joking?!?!

(Oh, y yo vivimos en Brooklyn en la avenida de Washington en 1994)

Washington avenue in '94  you're brave! at that time fort green was not cute.  Although, the parties at the south oxford tennis club were the bomb!

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« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2006, 02:46:30 PM »
Washington Avenue at that time was not that bad, actually.  The areas near Bed-Stuy (in Bed-Stuy, I should say) were somewhat bad but in reality, it was just hard-working folks.  Claim to fame of Wash Ave in 1994 was that Wesley Snipes lived about three blocks down from where we lived.
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Re: Columbus: Conventions and Tourism News & Info
« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2006, 02:55:06 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

Actually, Lonely Planet dubbed the Short North "Columbus' answer to New York City's SoHo district."

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« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2006, 02:56:03 PM »
Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.

Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough

Actually, Lonely Planet dubbed the Short North "Columbus' answer to New York City's SoHo district."

Why do you think they lonely?  Trust me, nobody agreed!