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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2006, 09:41:09 AM »
They've been shuttling people to East Cleveland for a while. Part of the problem is that they have to eliminate 1000 spaces while they build a parking garage on top of the surface lot. When you eliminate current spaces, it can be tough. I would love to see RTA and CC hook up though.

Hey, at least the city is making some money from this.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2006, 09:43:04 AM »
The Clinic, and more employers for that matter, should just buy RTA passes for their employees, rather than build parking garages.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2006, 09:48:01 AM »
^I agree. But its difficult when the man making those decisions lives out in Moreland Hills. Can you imagine taking a bus in from Moreland Hills when you're used to driving your Jaguar in everyday?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2006, 01:03:15 PM by wimwar »

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2006, 12:59:23 PM »
So what you're saying is that this isn't a reality-based decision?  :-o
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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2006, 02:14:32 PM »
I'm pretty sure they aren't asking the doctors to park in the muni-lot

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2006, 02:19:51 PM »
^my wife works at the Clinic. Due to long and crazy hours, I don't see them forcing the doctors to park downtown.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2006, 02:29:56 PM »
Ironic that downtown has enough parking surplus to accomodate 1,500 new commuters at a whim.  Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2006, 11:22:03 AM »
This is not new news, but I wanted to give the update from the Planning Commission that shows the approval.

From Cleveland vs. The World:

http://clevelandplanner.blogspot.com/2006/10/september-15-2006-cleveland-planning.html

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1a. DC 06-129: East 86th to East 89th Streets and Carnegie Avenue, Cleveland Clinic, Underground Service Center and Parking Garage, Foundation Permit/Footprint Approval

The architects of this new 200,000 sq ft garage are Collins Gordon Bostwick (http://www.cgbarch.com/). The new 7-story garage will hold 4,000 cars. There will also be an attached logistic center and 14 - 16 receiving docks to support the Heart Center. The lower area of the garage will house services such as materials distribution which will connect to the rest of the Clinic through a network of tunnels
The QQ lot will be demoed and retained as a green space but may have a possible building on the southern portion adjacent to the P Building (formerly the Clinic Inn) and the PP Garage. Additionally, there will be a 12,000 sq ft structure attached to the Carnegie side of the building which will house the IT Department.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2006, 01:18:35 PM »
More cranes in the air, but again nothing about a sidewalk level presence...

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2006, 01:29:43 PM »
Any word on when construction would begin on the garage? Am I correct in thinking that this will replace a giant surface lot?

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2006, 01:32:58 PM »
I dunno - it's designed by the same group that gave us the lovingly atrocious Goodman-Levin building at CSU. They did a great job on the NEORSD building, but a lot of their work suffers from the reflective-glass/sidewalk-ignoring approach.

Is this the building site in question?
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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2006, 01:35:56 PM »
^The new parking garage at CSU (overlooking the innerbelt) is not that bad. Actually, I really like the parking garage just to the north of the Levin College. I wonder if its the same architect.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2006, 04:29:17 PM »
Wimwar, yes, it will replace a giant surface parking lot (one that holds nearly 1000 cars).  It also appears that the clinic might be experimenting with cladding their existing garage on 89th with their signature pink granite trim.  If you drive by it, you'll see what I mean. 

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2006, 04:32:00 PM »
Mayday, no, the picture you posted is actually that of another garage under construction for the Clinic.   Your picture shows Chester avenue, not Carnegie. 

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #74 on: October 17, 2006, 07:04:46 AM »
Great, more "signature" pink granite striping cladding a parking garage....

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2006, 10:13:35 AM »
They've already started work on the E89th St./Carnegie garage. Those Clinicians don't waste much time.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2006, 10:15:39 AM »
Thats the nature of large urban hospitals.  They build in layers, as new needs/spaces are realized and needed, with the buildings actually touching one another.  If your lucky they might build an atrium between the buildings.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2006, 11:25:21 AM »
There seem to be promising signs from Cosgrove as to his understanding of how important it is for the Clinic to lead with good design, but when are we going to start to see them manifest?  For example, do you build a $170 million garage that is just a garage?  Or do you incorporate more office space into it and front it with convenience retail space? 

I know they're collaborating on the Upper Chester project, but when does the clinic start working on housing in earnest?  Much like the case of University Circle, with the amount of institutional and job growth projected for the next 10 years, if we can't get more people living near where they work, we're going to have to keep building these garages!  Case is working on this with plans to build hundreds of units at the Triangle.  Will the Clinic move this direction as a developer or will they appropriate funds as a development partner towards residential and neighborhood development?  The Cedar Avenue biomedical startup center is promising, but it needs to go beyond that.

I hope we get more than just a little conversation going with the Clinic about this.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2006, 08:06:00 PM »
^Well Litt's PD article specifically states that "Cosgrove doesn't see the Clinic following suit [like John Hopkins] by investing in development around its boundaries", so to answer the question it does not appear the Clinic has any plans at this time to "move this direction as a developer" or to even partner with anyone.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2006, 09:03:49 PM »
Its not housing that I'm really concerned about. With Upper Chester, Woodhaven and University Circle, there is a good number of housing that will come onto the market.  I'd like to see the existing and future retail be reconfigured into storefront-style structures the line the northern side of Euclid.


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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2006, 07:31:26 AM »
I haven't been able to get a closer look at the construction recently...is Glickman Tower already underway?

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2006, 07:35:20 AM »
Yes, it looks like the foundation is set and the first floor is going in. You can't see it unless you're inside the the Clinic's overhead walkways.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2006, 05:52:27 PM »
Do you know how tall this tower will be?

Will it be a "tower" in the VA Hospital sense (six measely stories), or a tower in the Cleveland Clinic sense (10-15 stories)?  :-P
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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #83 on: November 17, 2006, 08:56:22 PM »

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2006, 11:07:53 PM »
Thanks for the plug.
My permalink function is not, um, functioning. (Anybody good at that stuff?)
If you go to the site, it is about two thirds way down - or I can just post it here.

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2070 Circle Drive, Cleveland Clinic, Glickman Tower
This will be new construction located behind the new Heart Center. The ten-story internal glass and granite tower will house the Glickman Urology Institute on the op four floors (not including two for mechanical). The rest of the building will be designated flex space.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2006, 01:26:36 PM »
yes, cranes in the air...

On my way up Euclid this afternoon from Downtown to U.C., I noticed that the Heart Center's windows have arrived.  To my disgust, they are a nice shade of "clinic" green.  Not transparent at all...I'm pretty disappointed in this.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2006, 09:00:46 AM »
Re: MayDay -- Oops!
Re: Clinic windows -- Oops!

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2006, 09:01:24 AM »
re: blinker12's mom -- Oops!

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2006, 09:03:30 AM »
Alright kids...



DISCUSS.

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Re: Cleveland: Cleveland Clinic Developments (University Circle)
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2006, 09:15:24 AM »
you can't see the windows there yet, but trust me, they're ugly... Levin College ugly.