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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2018, 05:23:43 PM »
Portman is inoffensive, but the past year has made me really dislike him. He seems to just want to hide away, never wants to open his mouth at all let alone take the lead on a key issue (except opiate crisis which while important, doing something about it is pretty noncontroversial). We never get any town halls, he never comes out strongly for or against anything, we never have any idea what he's thinking. The headlines always say "Marco Rubio wants x" or "Bob Corker wants Y" or "Ted Cruz said Z." And McCain, Collins, Flake, Murkowski etc... but never, ever Rob Portman. Maybe he's working it behind the scenes but it appears that he isn't.

It's like we aren't even being represented at all. I noticed this behavior with the Obamacare repeal saga but truthfully, it's how he always comports himself. At the end of the day, I'd rather have him than a Trumpublican, but seriously, do something man.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2018, 05:32:46 PM »
WOW

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/01/05/republican-u-s-senate-candidate-josh-mandel-drops-out-u-s-senate-race/1008097001/

Josh Mandel drops out of Senate race.

Don't know if there will be strong competition. Headwinds are not in GOP favor, Mandel lost 6 years ago. To do so again is political suicide and he would be finished. He is going to sit back and wait for another opportunity to run for a different seat. Maybe a viable challenger will surface with less to lose politically than Mandel, but he did this as a calculated political move so he could have a future.

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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2018, 10:28:33 AM »
The news about Mandel's wife's "deteriorating health" is very vague. Sooner or later, the details will come out....such as, I had just read on another thread that there may be more to this. There is a rumor that something went down at a bachelor party involving one of his friends. There are supposedly pictures.
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2018, 11:15:55 AM »
The news about Mandel's wife's "deteriorating health" is very vague. Sooner or later, the details will come out....such as, I had just read on another thread that there may be more to this. There is a rumor that something went down at a bachelor party involving one of his friends. There are supposedly pictures.

I can confirm that his wife does indeed have serious health issues. So let's all be kind (not calling you out @KJP) and just wish her well and move on from this point.

I can also confirm that Mandel and his staffers have never left their fraternity. The guy employed his friends as staff at every position he's held. He encapsulates "the swamp"

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2018, 11:55:48 AM »
J.D. Vance ‘seriously considering’ run for GOP Senate nomination

Columbus resident and Hillbilly Elegy author J.D. Vance is more than flirting with a run for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate following the exit of Treasurer Josh Mandel from the race.

“J.D. is seriously considering a run at this point,” said Jai Chabria, a former top adviser to Gov. John Kasich who now is working with Vance, who has never sought or held elective office.

The 33-year-old has attracted the interest of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other national Republicans as a potential opponent for Democratic incumbent Sherrod Brown. ... Vance and McConnell have spoken more than once as party leaders apparently continue to shop for a candidate beyond wealthy, Cleveland-area investment banker Mike Gibbons, who also is a political novice.

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180110/jd-vance-seriously-considering-run-for-gop-senate-nomination
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2018, 06:55:25 PM »
I can confirm that Josh's wife does have some health issues.

I can ALSO confirm that his wife's health was NOT the reason Josh Mandel dropped out of the Senate race. I anticipate the story will be out within a week or so.

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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2018, 10:39:51 PM »
Marines remember him carrying lens-cleaning supplies for no reason in his commercials. I say that's it.

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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2018, 04:12:30 PM »
I can confirm that Josh's wife does have some health issues.

I can ALSO confirm that his wife's health was NOT the reason Josh Mandel dropped out of the Senate race. I anticipate the story will be out within a week or so.

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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2018, 04:28:14 PM »
^We'll see if the story makes it out. But I've heard from now multiple reliable sources that it stems back to the 2011 dealings with Ben Suarez

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2018, 01:31:11 PM »
J.D. Vance ‘seriously considering’ run for GOP Senate nomination

Columbus resident and Hillbilly Elegy author J.D. Vance is more than flirting with a run for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate following the exit of Treasurer Josh Mandel from the race.  “J.D. is seriously considering a run at this point,” said Jai Chabria, a former top adviser to Gov. John Kasich who now is working with Vance, who has never sought or held elective office.

The 33-year-old has attracted the interest of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other national Republicans as a potential opponent for Democratic incumbent Sherrod Brown. ... Vance and McConnell have spoken more than once as party leaders apparently continue to shop for a candidate beyond wealthy, Cleveland-area investment banker Mike Gibbons, who also is a political novice.

MORE:  http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180110/jd-vance-seriously-considering-run-for-gop-senate-nomination

Vance might run for office someday ... but not for this 2018 U.S. Senate seat:

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180119/jd-vance-count-me-out-of-politics----for-now
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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2018, 02:38:23 PM »
^We'll see if the story makes it out. But I've heard from now multiple reliable sources that it stems back to the 2011 dealings with Ben Suarez

Seems he was able to keep everything hushed up.

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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2018, 01:59:56 AM »
Nobody cares enough about Josh Mandel to dig up dirt on him. He's an extremely boring politician with no political future.

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2018, 11:53:28 AM »
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b21c66fb-ba89-4b8c-9171-30457f6997d2

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In the Republican primary for United States Senator --- for the right to run against incumbent Democrat Sherrod Brown in the November general election --- Jim Renacci at 21% doubles his nearest challenger Mike Gibbons at 10%, with 3 other Republicans in single digits.

Democrat Brown seeks his 3rd term in the Senate. He was elected with 56% of the vote in 2006 --- when he defeated DeWine --- and re-elected in 2012 with 51% of the vote. Today, it's:

* Brown 52%, Renacci 38% --- a 14-point lead for the Democratic incumbent.
* Brown 52%, Gibbons 38% --- a 14-point lead for the Democratic incumbent.
* Brown 52%, Dan Kiley 37% --- a 15-point lead for the Democratic incumbent.
* Brown 53%, Don Eckhart 37% --- a 16-point lead for the Democratic incumbent.

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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2018, 04:50:17 PM »
^Wowwwwwww. Gibbons ditched his establishment GOP roots to use some Trump rhetoric. I thought for sure he'd get the nod, especially with his 80+ endorsements

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« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2018, 01:09:53 PM »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sherrod-brown-lays-agenda-little-guy-conference-progressives-154237226.html

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Brown made the case that the economy will be the central issue in coming election, above anti-Trump sentiment and social issues like gun control and abortion. “If we’re going to be a progressive movement and it’s about civil rights and human rights, it’s also about worker rights and it’s also about trade unions,” he said, adding a little later, “I don’t talk about Clinton voters or Trump voters. I don’t talk about white workers and black workers and Latino workers. I talk about workers and I talk about voters.”

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

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Re: 2018 U.S. Senate Race
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2018, 01:18:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2018, 01:26:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

It's not likely a good policy that could actually be implemented but I think it is a good message for electoral purposes.

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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2018, 01:30:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

It's not likely a good policy that could actually be implemented but I think it is a good message for electoral purposes.

Well that's a nice way of saying it haha.

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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2018, 01:38:11 PM »
midwest democrats are best sticking to economic issues.  I think Trump and the GOP will try to bait culture war issues due to the new era of conservative victimhood.  It will be best to for dems. to not fall into the trap.

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« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2018, 03:11:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

Such a policy would certainly have unintended consequences of laying off workers and automating more jobs. Turn it around, is it better to have low wage jobs subsidizing the benefits of those in unskilled labor jobs or is it better to have a lot more unemployed people altogether who need a larger benefit because they don't have a job who can offset the government subsidy required.

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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2018, 08:24:08 AM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/996382834494353408

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Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

It's not likely a good policy that could actually be implemented but I think it is a good message for electoral purposes.

Hah!  Spoken like Trump's most cynical supporters with respect to his campaign promises. :P

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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2018, 09:40:09 AM »
You can't be all policy, you have to mix in some aspiration.  Maybe we can't get a 100% freeloader fee right now but at least we're talking about it.  And maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle.  Like when your job says "we know you can't live off this but we're getting there, aren't we?"

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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2018, 10:07:02 AM »
My first problem with the notion of a freeloader fee is the particularly high disincentive it places on hiring people with families.  If the threshold for having to pay the freeloader fee is food stamp eligibility, well, food stamp eligibility is a moving target.  You would always want to hire the single, childless individual rather than the man with a wife and three kids, because you'd minimize your freeloader fee exposure.

I'd also raise the usual concerns about incentivizing automation and elimination of jobs, but I'll admit I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to the argument that those incentives now exist no matter what, given the advances of the last few years in automation technology, which either eliminates or marginalizes the role they should play in policy decisions.

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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2018, 08:51:38 AM »
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/06/12/ohio-governor-senate-poll/693957002/

Sherrod Brown up 53-37 (wow) in latest Enquirer / Suffolk University poll.

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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2018, 09:11:03 AM »
^Both of our Senators are fairly popular at home, this shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2018, 09:42:04 AM »
Brown technically falls on that list of Republican "targets" in the sense of being a Democrat representing a state that Trump won.  But in practical terms, he's not really that vulnerable.  It would take an actual red wave to take him down.  That's obviously not happening.

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« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2018, 09:46:24 AM »
^Both of our Senators are fairly popular at home, this shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

The last Republican in a statewide election won by 8 points.  16 points in the Dem favor is a 24-point swing.

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« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2018, 09:49:50 AM »
^ you can't look at it like that when you have a popular incumbent. Plus, I expect the actual vote to be a bit closer than the current polling.
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« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2018, 10:31:12 AM »
^ you can't look at it like that when you have a popular incumbent. Plus, I expect the actual vote to be a bit closer than the current polling.

True.  I'm just surprised at the 53 figure.  Brown "only" won in 2012 51-45 and he won over DeWine in 2006 56-44.  At a time when the state went Republican the most it has since 1988 it's still a bit surprising if Brown wins in the 15-16 point range, which would be his career high for a statewide election, save for the 1986 Ohio Secretary of State election he won by 20%.