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Offline Hts121

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3720 on: February 15, 2017, 05:02:45 PM »
Ram breaks his silence only to (yet again) ignore Flynn and the shady Russian connections, and simply blame the leakers instead of holding Trump accountable. Sad!

More than a bit hypocritical isn't it?  Ram was always the one suggesting that we look at the content of the leaked info and urging us to completely ignore the manner in which it was acquired. 

For my part, I think both are worthy inquiries. 

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3721 on: February 15, 2017, 05:05:26 PM »
^ Ram thinks it is cool to get leaks from Russian collusion and interference in an election but it is terrible to get leaks form out IC showing the leaks were obtained through collusion with Russians.  It makes sense if you don't think about it, kind of like voting for Trump.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3722 on: February 15, 2017, 07:17:31 PM »
Ram breaks his silence only to (yet again) ignore Flynn and the shady Russian connections, and simply blame the leakers instead of holding Trump accountable. Sad!

More than a bit hypocritical isn't it?  Ram was always the one suggesting that we look at the content of the leaked info and urging us to completely ignore the manner in which it was acquired. 

For my part, I think both are worthy inquiries. 

This x1000.  I cannot believe how hypocritical Ram and others are.  Ram was completely OK with the info on Hillary being illegally obtained because the content justified it.  But now that Trump is President, the story is not the content but how it was obtained. 

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3723 on: February 15, 2017, 08:19:08 PM »
Why don't you guys stop worrying about what Ram thinks. This is a forum, not testimony.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3724 on: February 15, 2017, 08:21:25 PM »
This x1000.  I cannot believe how hypocritical Ram and others are.  Ram was completely OK with the info on Hillary being illegally obtained because the content justified it.  But now that Trump is President, the story is not the content but how it was obtained. 

This is the most fantastic part of the Trump-Soviet story. Trump is only President because of asymmetric leaking of information from the Clinton campaign but not his (with his tacit endorsement, no less), but now he needs a safe space since it is information about his own corrupt administration being leaked. Can't have it both ways.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3726 on: February 15, 2017, 09:58:24 PM »
Neil Covuto - no thanks

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3727 on: February 15, 2017, 10:18:30 PM »
NYT reporter who broke Trump campaign/Russia story is same reporter who broke Clinton email server story. That's called a free & fair press. https://t.co/OPzWQowKSF
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« Reply #3728 on: February 15, 2017, 10:19:02 PM »
Mike Pence is using Donald Trumpís Flynn-Russia flap to try to get Steve Bannon fired https://t.co/8k2HXiWq0R via @PalmerReport
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3729 on: February 15, 2017, 10:23:18 PM »
Why don't you guys stop worrying about what Ram thinks. This is a forum, not testimony.

Yes, it is a forum.  Where people interact with each other.  And if you are going to talk some BS and/or be hypocritical, whether is is Ram or someone else (me included), you should expect to be called out on it. 

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« Reply #3730 on: February 15, 2017, 10:48:00 PM »
^^ I'd be careful believing Palmer Reports.  However, it is obvious that there is a power struggle within the campaign.  I think Conway is out next.

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« Reply #3731 on: February 15, 2017, 10:58:24 PM »
Spicer says the rally in Florida is being run by the "campaign."  Since we are already in the throws of an election we should hold off on Supreme Court nomination.  Let the people decide.

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« Reply #3732 on: February 15, 2017, 11:37:50 PM »
Here come the plumbers.  This administration should not follow Nixon's game plan for dealing with the CIA of JFK for that matter.  It didn't work out well in either case.  More leaks coming soon I can assure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3733 on: February 16, 2017, 05:06:57 AM »
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3734 on: February 16, 2017, 08:07:14 AM »
Oh yeah. The tax returns. Those nearly got lost in the sh!tshow. Yes, we still need to see those. Maybe now more than ever with the growing evidence of links between Team PTD and the Russians. Think about this.... Our president has already had to fire both a campaign manager and his NSA due to contacts with Russia. Say that out loud to yourself

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« Reply #3735 on: February 16, 2017, 08:27:08 AM »
You forgot about Carter Page.

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« Reply #3736 on: February 16, 2017, 09:50:27 AM »
45 considered this mission a success.  I'd hate to see what a failed mission looks like.  Maybe if he had been in the Situation Room he might know the details. 

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/navy-seal-raid-yemen-ally-u-s-backed-president-killed-n721616

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3737 on: February 16, 2017, 10:43:57 AM »
Trump going after leakers.  I thought he liked leaks..... both the kind you find on Wikileaks and the kind you get served at a Russian brothel.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3738 on: February 16, 2017, 11:43:58 AM »
I really have to think they are now f-in with us, sending this guy out to do the weekend interviews.....


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« Reply #3739 on: February 16, 2017, 12:42:10 PM »

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I really have to think they are now f-in with us, sending this guy out to do the weekend interviews.....



The reaction from Morning Joe at the end was priceless and spot on. This dude is hilarious.

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« Reply #3740 on: February 16, 2017, 12:55:48 PM »
Ambassador Haley says that US "absolutely" supports 2 state solution. 


Could President Bannon please brief Putin's puppet on the US Israeli policy?  Please do it using Mickey Mouse cartoons.  He doesn't understand anything more complicated because he is functionally illiterate. 
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3741 on: February 16, 2017, 01:26:12 PM »
Did PTD really just say "I inherited a mess"?  Obama must be chuckling at that.

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« Reply #3742 on: February 16, 2017, 01:30:49 PM »
President Trump plans to assign a New York billionaire to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies, according to administration officials, an effort that members of the intelligence community fear could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the presidentís worldview.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #3743 on: February 16, 2017, 01:47:04 PM »
President Trump plans to assign a New York billionaire to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies, according to administration officials, an effort that members of the intelligence community fear could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the presidentís worldview.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html

This is tame.  They should probably expect worse than this in the coming months given that the National Security Council and intelligence agencies apparently leak more than the banquet hall at Mar-a-Lago.  At least the Mar-a-Lago guests could only publish Facebook photos from across a crowded, noisy room, instead of the actual contents of the classified files in the entourage's briefcases.

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« Reply #3744 on: February 16, 2017, 02:11:32 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/02/16/us/politics/trump-news-conference-live-analysis.html

Is anyone watching this press conference? It's a disaster. The president has the mental and emotional intelligence of a child. How can anyone still support this man?

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« Reply #3745 on: February 16, 2017, 02:15:34 PM »
^It's unbelievable...

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« Reply #3746 on: February 16, 2017, 02:22:34 PM »
He just reached out to the African-American community and again delineated the great social and racial divide in the inner cities. Against insurmountable odds he's trying to address that. I don't know what the criticism is.

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« Reply #3747 on: February 16, 2017, 02:25:53 PM »
^He reached out to the black community? How so?  By telling them how bad and horrible their community is?  What has he done for the black community that has not been done by past presidents?  Don't speak in generalities.... be specific.

Back to the presser, I give him credit for throwing himself into the fire.  I don't think he had much choice at this point, but I give him credit.  That said, he does sound like a petulant child responding to these questions.  This is going to do nothing to stem his growing reputation as being thin-skinned and astonishingly insecure. 
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« Reply #3748 on: February 16, 2017, 02:34:58 PM »
^well, since so many problems still exist especially in the poorest black communities obviously those presidents did not do enough to sufficiently address the problem. And what do you mean "what has he done for the black community?" He's only been in office for 3 weeks!! He's been reaching out to meet with black leaders for months, but if he's going to get nothing but obstructionism from highly politicized Congressional Democrats who won't even acknowledge he's legitimately the president then he won't be able to get anything done.

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« Reply #3749 on: February 16, 2017, 02:41:19 PM »
So he's done nothing and, per your estimation, he will do nothing.

BTW, to your "he's only been in office for three weeks", didn't I just hear him say that he has accomplished more in that timeframe than any other POTUS?  He just read off a list of what he has supposedly accomplished.  Wonderfully, fantastic things in his own opinion.  Surely he has done something to address what he deems to be such a dire situation.  You can go back and review the transcript and revise your answer when you find something you think might be useful.
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