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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2016, 11:29:38 PM »
Columbus just recently hit 2 million and is one of the fastest growing metros in the northern US, not surprising that they jumped on it.

I think the Cleveland location should go on the Opportunity Corridor and that the city should find a way to procure some empowerment/enterprise zone monies, New Markets Tax Credits, income and corporate tax rebates, and any other applicable incentives. Then the city should find a way to connect such a site, perhaps using some of the aforementioned funding sources, to the RTA rail lines that parallel the Opportunity Corridor.

I don't think IKEA typically works with such complicated financing, BUT they'd get a lot of credit for joining the rust belt revival story of Cleveland, and that kind of financing would be needed to shield themselves from some of the financial risk they might initially fear.
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2016, 08:07:30 AM »
^interesting. But IKEA likes visibility and access from the interstate system.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2016, 08:16:14 AM »
So there is no project anymore correct? or are they still scouting sites?

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2016, 08:17:45 AM »
as far as I know, still scouting.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2016, 03:06:19 PM »
http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2016/03/10/new-outlet-mall-planned-for-garfield-heights

"I've signed a confidentiality agreement, but the outlet mall is not coming here. [Craig Realty Group] is pursuing a different venture," Collova told Cleveland 19. "If this new direction comes to fruition, I'm certain there won't be any disappointed people in Garfield. They'll be very happy.

Hmm.... Maybe?
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2016, 03:32:15 PM »
IKEA would seem to be at the top of the list based on those clues...  I'm more curious what prompted the story on Channel 19...? A tipto station caused call to mayor? This was a minor outlet mall plan... not one that people would care is or isn't happening enough to keep tabs on it. That could be the sign of something breaking soon.... (Michelle?)

BTW, was just at the Detroit IKEA this weekend and surprised to find it is about a 1/4 mile off interstate - unlike others I have been to - with NO visibility of building from the road other than a very large sign placed away from the building by the road... (Visibility from road has been a stated requirement of new/recent stores). For those who know the Berea exit off I71, it was NW of an intersection full of mature businesses, in a spot similar to where the Kmart is - though lots of trees blocked view from surface stree, too... A top of hill/Transportation Blvd spot would be much more high profile.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2016, 06:48:05 PM »
That location is still my top choice for Ikea. I really don't see any negatives for it, other than it was mentioned before about being tied up in litigation from the previous development. Hopefully that's all cleared up by now. I'd normally be bummed out over the outlets falling through, but clearly there's still interest in developing some more in the city.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2016, 12:17:47 PM »
^ totally agree. meanwhile, i saw a photo in the cols dispatch this week that showed the blue is starting to show on their ikea store construction. i hope that opening doesn't stall ikea's thoughts about a cle area store as the pittsburgh ikea has seemed to for so many years now.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2016, 09:59:41 PM »
Reading an early May 2016 story about the recently announced Milwaukee IKEA - and Cleveland came up from the IKEA spokesman, Joe Roth:

"That exit off 94 and Drexel Avenue did not exist up until three or four years ago," Roth said. "And in some of the older, more established metropolitan areas it's just difficult to find 25 to 35 acres of land. We had the same challenge in St. Louis that took us 10 years. We've been looking in Cleveland and we still haven't found the site there. When you're going to put one store in the major metropolitan area, you just need to get it right the first time and it was worth the wait for us."

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/05/05/why-ikea-chose-to-open-its-first-wisconsin.html

And another CLE IKEA Joe Roth mention in a March 2016 story on a potential Norfolk store - finally announced in June:

"In the meantime, Hampton Roads shouldn’t feel too left out. There are only 41 Ikeas nationwide, with the 42nd opening in Las Vegas in May. Roth said it took 10 years before the company recently found a site in St. Louis, and it’s still looking for a spot in Cleveland. Stores for Memphis; Indianapolis; Columbus, Ohio; and Jacksonville, Fla., are opening within the next two years."

http://pilotonline.com/business/biz-buzz/so-when-will-ikea-come-to-hampton-roads-rabid-fans/article_951380a7-91c8-5da6-94dc-9a0652928942.html



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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2016, 10:18:53 PM »
Rumored to be looking at the defunct Bridgeview site at 480 and Transportation

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2016, 10:49:45 PM »
Looks like they are exaggerating their space requirements.  I just looked at several Ikea sites on Google Earth and they seem to be mostly in the 15-20 acre range, with some as low as 10 acres (shared parking across the street at a mall).

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2016, 10:22:03 PM »
About time for an official IKEA Garfield Heights announcement, isn't it? I'm thinking so...

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2016, 09:09:17 AM »
You'd think with all the work to increase capacity at the Tiedeman interchange that Brooklyn might know something we don't.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2016, 11:59:47 AM »
^especially with American Greetings moving

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #104 on: October 07, 2016, 12:10:48 PM »
Reading an early May 2016 story about the recently announced Milwaukee IKEA - and Cleveland came up from the IKEA spokesman, Joe Roth:

"That exit off 94 and Drexel Avenue did not exist up until three or four years ago," Roth said. "And in some of the older, more established metropolitan areas it's just difficult to find 25 to 35 acres of land. We had the same challenge in St. Louis that took us 10 years. We've been looking in Cleveland and we still haven't found the site there. When you're going to put one store in the major metropolitan area, you just need to get it right the first time and it was worth the wait for us."

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/05/05/why-ikea-chose-to-open-its-first-wisconsin.html

And another CLE IKEA Joe Roth mention in a March 2016 story on a potential Norfolk store - finally announced in June:

"In the meantime, Hampton Roads shouldn’t feel too left out. There are only 41 Ikeas nationwide, with the 42nd opening in Las Vegas in May. Roth said it took 10 years before the company recently found a site in St. Louis, and it’s still looking for a spot in Cleveland. Stores for Memphis; Indianapolis; Columbus, Ohio; and Jacksonville, Fla., are opening within the next two years."

http://pilotonline.com/business/biz-buzz/so-when-will-ikea-come-to-hampton-roads-rabid-fans/article_951380a7-91c8-5da6-94dc-9a0652928942.html





Looking at the much smaller markets they're entering now, it's hard to believe they want to put a store in the Cleveland area for whatever reason. I can't believe it takes 20+ years to find a spot for what is simply another big-box store.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2016, 12:16:31 PM »
I thought this thread was about Brooklyn, NY, until reading the above comment. 

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2016, 06:40:12 PM »
You'd think with all the work to increase capacity at the Tiedeman interchange that Brooklyn might know something we don't.

They started that work two years ago. Obviously the planning even before that. Place is a total cluster when Key lets out. You'd sit over there and hear fire/EMS sirens and just think "well somebody is screwed."

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2017, 01:30:46 AM »
Ikea scorecard: April 2017 (all have or are building stores, except those noted).... So it's about time for CLE, isn't it?


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37   Nashville                                JUST ANNOUNCED - May 2017
38   Greensboro/Winston-Salem        NO IKEA
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #108 on: April 21, 2017, 08:10:15 AM »
Did the mother of IKEA's CEO die in a car crash here or something?
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #109 on: May 18, 2017, 08:32:40 PM »
I was told today (second hand, but from a good source) that this site is still actively in play, and is the ONLY site in Cleveland Ikea is willing to build. I forget the details of it, but basically the type of wetland designation is one that the Army Corp's of Engineers does not cover, but instead is under the jurisdiction of the state. So things are going to be appealed and worked through the state.

My own thinking now: Since the state of Ohio doesn't give a SH!T about the environment, we should see Ikea here sooner or later.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2017, 10:53:19 PM »
Why the hell would they absolutely rule out the potential site in Garfield Heights? That one seems like an equally viable choice, just without the environmental concerns.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #111 on: May 19, 2017, 06:58:58 AM »
Why the hell would they absolutely rule out the potential site in Garfield Heights? That one seems like an equally viable choice, just without the environmental concerns.

There's environmental concerns as well there, just not like across the freeway.   Perhaps more importantly, there's the perception of environmental concerns.

Garfield Heights in that area is also getting a less than stellar reputation.  Brooklyn may be no worse in definable terms, but again perception carries a lot of weight in a case like this.

Brooklyn's probably got a more competent city government too.

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« Reply #112 on: May 27, 2017, 01:00:09 AM »
IKEA update: Both Raleigh-Durham and Nashville had new IKEA stores announced in the last week, alone...  Unreal.  Of the top 40 markets noted above, 37 will now have stores - and Cleveland/NEO will be the only region in the top 37 not to have one.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/05/25/ikea-nashville-announcement/345242001/

http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2017/05/18/ikea-confirms-plans-for-2020-store-opening-at-cary.html

The one change from most recent announcement of stores/articles about/leading up to announcements - the past few years  - is a comment that it takes a long time to find a location for one of their stores (and have looked in said market for x year..- them mentioning they are still looking in CLE after years without a site)

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #113 on: May 27, 2017, 02:58:29 PM »
Here's a crazy idea: an ikea on the lake. Also, use it as a shipping and distribution location to other ikeas. That would be very green since it would reduce the amount of trucks driving to the stores from the east coast. Sweden is practically on the way from the current freighter line that comes into the Port of Cleveland.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #114 on: June 03, 2017, 08:19:04 AM »
From WKYC last night:

http://www.wkyc.com/life/shopping/northeast-ohio-ikea-prospects-remain-as-columbus-opens/445355419

The IKEA rep's language about no specific timeline or committed location in CLE is similar language with regards to "location and timeline" to what he has used in other metros just prior to store announcements... In Norfolk and Raleigh, both announced in the last year, he has used almost identical language - in published reports of IKEA rumors - within 3-4 months of store announcements. (He has other language for use when there is not a chance of a store, etc...)

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« Reply #115 on: June 06, 2017, 05:35:58 PM »
"IKEA focused on Cleveland..." - was supposed to open in CLE 1st per their president:

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170606/with-columbus-store-ready-to-open-ikea-now-focused-on-cleveland

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #116 on: August 20, 2017, 02:02:07 AM »
Here's pretty strong evidence, from a local real estate insider, that IKEA may announce a northwest corner 480/Transportation Blvd location in the "very near future"  - a year since the published reports on this site began and public officials went silent...... (For those keeping score, most recent IKEA new store announcements have occurred on Tuesdays or Thursdays... so keeping an eye on the calendar...)

http://www.grs-global.com/messin-with-sasquatch-in-cleveland/

If this is the location, will be interesting to see what might become of the nearly vacant CityView center on the south side of this intersection... The increased traffic might be enough to make something happen there...
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #117 on: August 20, 2017, 11:39:00 AM »
If this is the location, will be interesting to see what might become of the nearly vacant CityView center on the south side of this intersection... The increased traffic might be enough to make something happen there...

I can't find a news article, but I have heard that CityView was sold recently. The property isn't in good shape and any new development will have to deal with the perception problem and the fact that Giant Eagle has used its veto power in the past to stifle just about every suggested use for the adjacent storefronts.

Regardless of what happens with CityView, if Bridgeview is indeed going to be the location for Greater Cleveland's IKEA, Garfield Heights should finally complete the long discussed project of extending Transportation Boulevard to Rockside Road.
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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #118 on: August 20, 2017, 11:56:48 AM »
IKEA has two Cleveland stores: one is on Polaris Pkwy in Deleware County or you can shop the original Cleveland store in the west suburbs of Pittsburgh. Pretty clear they have no interest in NE Ohio despite all their claims of shopping for a "perfect" spot. Somehow they have managed to find these spots all over the rest of the country.

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Re: Brooklyn: IKEA superstore
« Reply #119 on: August 20, 2017, 12:14:08 PM »
IKEA has two Cleveland stores: one is on Polaris Pkwy in Deleware County or you can shop the original Cleveland store in the west suburbs of Pittsburgh. Pretty clear they have no interest in NE Ohio despite all their claims of shopping for a "perfect" spot. Somehow they have managed to find these spots all over the rest of the country.

Although some may consider Columbus to be a suburb of Cleveland, that is still a mighty long trek for Clevelanders. Pittsburgh is in another state. No thanks.