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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2005, 05:55:29 PM »
Also, here's the masterplan.  Look at MSASS to see how they have actually planned for some time now to expand right on the tiny parking lot next to the current building.

http://www.case.edu/pubs/casemagazine/fall2001/features/place/download/MasterPlan.pdf

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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2005, 06:46:23 PM »
Are the walkways a UCI, CWRU or Euclid Corridor project?

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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2005, 07:16:20 PM »
Some of it has changed since then.  The West Quad and North Residential Quad are quiet a bit different.

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2005, 12:25:45 AM »
Does the footprint look anything like these?








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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2005, 12:29:48 AM »
Anyone else as happy as me with the plans for turning baker building into an entry point to the campus. :clap:






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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2005, 12:35:32 AM »
Some old pics for those who have yet to see them.

Here's the original plan Case had for the new Student Center.  I think now they're just gonna tear the whole thing down.  Can't say I agree with that, since the east section of thwing center is so historic.  They should at least save the outside and gut the inside except for the main hall.





Here's the original plan for moving the west portion of Thwing Center down the street and making an alumni center out of it.



And perhaps another good idea- to frame the rockefeller building with two others, thereby creating two separate quads out of the main case quad


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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2005, 07:10:22 AM »
Anyone else as happy as me with the plans for turning baker building into an entry point to the campus. :clap:

The auditorium left something to be desired but the basement classrooms were fun during summer session.

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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2005, 05:17:16 PM »
oallostavros-Maybe Case will decide to move both halves of the Thwing Center?  They are not just nice on the outside.  The ballroom is spectacular.  I've been to a few events there, and people always ooh and ahh about it.  It would be a shame to lose something so impressive and well liked.

The building under construction on the west quad is probably the upper leftmost building in the second rendering.

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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2005, 12:30:03 PM »
X, I agree, and that was their original plan, but last I heard, they were planning to demolish it altogether and build anew.

Here is a rendering and current pic of the building going up at Mount Sinai.  It will actually house the Cleveland Center for Structural Biology and another group as well.



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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2005, 09:31:58 AM »
^Hopefully Euclid Ave through midtown will build up so it is a seamless downtown region

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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2005, 10:43:06 AM »
That would be a nice 100 block long downtown...but I like it.

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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2005, 11:32:36 AM »
That would be a nice 100 block long downtown...but I like it.
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2005, 12:29:06 PM »
How large of a site are we discussing? The reason I ask - 500K sq. feet is roughly equivalent to the floorspace in One Cleveland Center. 2 million sq. feet - well, Key Tower has about 1.4 million sooo... this could be *huge* with a capital F!  :-o

*EDIT* Ok... on 14 acres... interesting indeed!
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2005, 12:16:03 PM »
Here is an editorial from Thursday.  It has some interesting tid bits, like the fact that two developers approached Case about the site.

Case for the future
Vision of a modern medical mecca on University Circle holds tremendous promise for all of Greater Cleveland
Thursday, February 24, 2005

The pioneering medical complex that Case Western Reserve University plans for University Circle represents the type of vision this region needs if it is to prosper in the 21st-century economy.

The West Quad proposal builds on the area's greatest economic strengths even as it focuses squarely on groundbreaking approaches to health care. It carries the possibility of thousands of new jobs, cutting-edge biotechnology companies and millions of new dollars in research grants.
 
Most important, it positions Cleveland to be a national leader in what Case medical school Dean Ralph Horwitz sees as a revolution in the way individual patients are treated and cured.

The proposal for a complex encompassing as many as 2 million square feet of laboratories, academic offices and commercial space clearly carries financial risk. But without risk-taking, this region will continue its economic slide. What's more, Case is approaching the project in a careful, thoughtful manner, committing resources of its own but also placing responsibility for its overall financial success with whichever developer wins the job.

The concept is attractive to developers. Case's leaders have already met with four firms - and two called the university first.

The proposal has not only a substantial commitment for space from Case, but the planned relocation of the Cleveland Health Department and the possibility of a satellite county health office. In addition, developers can count on the proximity and engagement of the region's two major health systems, University Hospitals and the Cleveland Clinic.

Five years ago, this community suffered a significant loss when Mt. Sinai Medical Center closed its doors. Today, Horwitz and Case President Edward Hundert have presented a compelling vision for the now-vacant site - one made possible only because organizations that once treated one another as rivals now recognize the benefits of collaboration.

This cooperative spirit, made possible largely because of Case's visionary leadership, holds the promise of significant economic growth for the region and progress in health care for the nation.



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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2005, 05:24:49 PM »
I've been keeping up with this project through the Cuyahoga County Planning Commission's Weblog: http://planning.co.cuyahoga.oh.us/blog, which is a great resource for those of us who live out of town, but want to keep up with day-to-day news around the Cuyahoga Cty area.  CoolCleveland is also great...and there used to be a Cleveland Development Projects website, but I think the guy called it quits.

Anyways, great news.  It seems like all the needed players are on the same side and we could actually see this thing happen over the next 10+ years.  Add to that new housing construction all around the Circle and up the hill, a renovated Wade Oval and Lagoon, an expanded CMA, CIA CIM, and CWRU and continued investments by both hospitals...plus Euclid Corridor.

On the housing note, any progress on the renovation of the beautiful, historic Park Lane Villa?

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« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2005, 05:27:40 PM »
I saw a construction vehicle (a cherry picker type thing)  out front of it yesterday, but I didn't stop to see what it was up to. 

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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2005, 03:28:43 PM »
Here is somewhat of an update on the Triangle and Beach projects (scroll down a bit).  Geez, I wish they would all get on the same page because it doesn't look like anything will happen soon with all these issues.

http://www.hotelbruce.com/01_02/bruceblog.php

University Circle deal spins round and round

With all the noise being made about infusing University Circle with a new street life, the stakes are getting higher and the allegiances shifting in the plot to figure out where to create the type of thriving commercial center that is a given at world-class universities.

Bruce blog has obtained information that explains the deafening silence of late surrounding the proposed $35 million retail-residential development at the corner of Ford and Euclid. For starters, Heritage Development Co., the developer, has not acquired the rezoning and variances from the city. The process has stalled in large part because the university is now insisting that the developer conduct a market analysis for the proposed supermarket tenant, a traffic analysis, and an analysis of residential rents.

After the university was pressured from the community to lower the height of the project (among other things), it insisted on reductions in the proposed size from 234 to 220 residential units and a reduction in underground parking spaces from 334 to 247. Meanwhile, Heritage’s refusal to take a public subsidy in order to maintain full control over the plan may be imperiling the financing of the project. Sources inform Bruce blog that the developer recently tried to negotiate a cash investment from Case and University Circle, Inc., which was met with a chilly reception.

Documents obtained by Bruce blog show university officials in December telling the developer that maybe ‘it would be wise to take a step back and take our time reviewing all aspects of this development.’ In a letter to Case and UCI, Heritage complains that ‘I distinctly feel that there is a change of attitude on each of your parts towards this development.’

Indeed, if Heritage is feeling the wind coming out of its sails, it might look across the street to see where it’s heading. The closer Case gets to finalizing its purchase (from UCI) of The Triangle apartments and commercial strip center on the northeast corner of Euclid and Mayfield , the more bargaining power it gains. Here it has a developable parcel with less issues: It’s not casting a shadow on Hessler Street where neighbors have complained (and threatened lawsuits) about the Heritage project, the university has a large surface parking lot practically attached, and it has existing structures from which to work (all of which drastically reduce development costs). Can Heritage hope to regain the leverage it once enjoyed? Stay tuned...

Speaking of The Triangle...

It seems as though UCI is the gatekeeper in seeing that Case commits to a plan to redevelop the Triangle as a commercial-use property. Whether the nonprofit has what it takes to stand up to the behemoth of Case is not clear, but, in documents obtained by Bruce blog, it looks as though Case is leading the negotiations on this one. One alteration that jumps out is the university adding ‘academic’ to the memorandum of understanding between it and UCI on the proposed uses of the Triangle. Sources familiar with the deal speculate that Case is leaving the option of relocating a future home of its Arts and Sciences college open. As it stands, UCI and other University Circle institutions will be informed of but not involved in making the plans.
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2005, 04:11:51 PM »
Does anyone know about the time of the future phases of new Case dorms?  I think that Case would do a lot better in attracting students if it had a better campus (dorms+college town). 

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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2005, 04:53:34 PM »
wait, community wanted it shorter? never heard that....

future phases? not sure of a time line, but the north residential village will be completely rebuilt. I'd imagine they'd start on the old north dorms shortly after the new north village is complete (occupancy fall 2005)

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« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2005, 08:42:28 AM »
With the huge construction boom going on, is there an area of UC that can be developed as a Forest City type mega development?

Just wondering, with all the new people probably moving to Cleveland ( :clap: ) for the new Case/Clinic labs, it could be a good opportunity.

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« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2005, 09:43:07 AM »
there really isn't any huge tracts of land that aren't developed in some shape or form other than some scattered parking lots, not that i can think of off hand.....

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« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2005, 10:04:48 AM »
I guess there is midtown, ripe for development

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« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2005, 12:00:29 PM »
There's a pretty significant development/redevelopment project going on around East Boulevard called "Heritage Lane."

http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/mayor/press/2004/200408/08_19_2004.html

Here are the key parts of it...

"The Heritage Lane Historic Homes and Heritage Lane Townhomes combined, are a $18 million development project being made possible through $2.5 million in Housing Trust Funds and $2 million in Empowerment Zone Funds from the City of Cleveland. Additional funding is being made possible through National City Bank, Huntington Bank, the Local Initiatives Support Corporation, and Village Capital Corporation.
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Located on the east side of East 105th Street, between Superior and Wade Park, the Heritage Lane Historic Homes range in size from 3,500-5,000 square feet, and include magnificently restored exteriors, full front porches, hardwood floors, vaulted ceilings, gourmet kitchens, 5-7 bedrooms, bedroom level laundry facilities, 2-3 bathrooms, all customized to buyer’s tastes. The starting price is $274,000.

Located on the west side of East 105th Street, right across the street, the Heritage Lane Townhomes floor plans will range from 1,600 to 2,100 square feet and feature 1.5-2.5 baths, 2-3 bedrooms, live-work bonus room, second story deck, bay window, basement, private drive, and two-car garage. The starting price is $174,900.

Both housing developments will feature below market financing. The Heritage Lane Historic Homes will also include 10-year tax abatement, while the Heritage Lane Townhomes will include 15-year tax abatement."

and a site plan from Progressive Urban Real Estate:

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« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2005, 09:49:24 PM »
here are some photos of the new CWRU housing from last week





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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2005, 09:56:12 PM »
Some photos of the lots on Euclid/Ford/Mayfield and how they relate to the new dorms...

Mi Pueblo & the Euclid Tavern [sniff, sniff], looking northeast from E. 117th & Euclid:

Looking back towards the new Case North Residential Village construction:

Corner of E. 115th & Euclid, looking west towards Ford/Mayfield:

Another, including the newly acquired Triangle property on the left:

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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2005, 05:45:20 PM »
I miss the Euclid Tavern too.  With so many people interested, you'd think someone would hop on the idea of resurrecting it.  But, maybe things have moved on- new Grog Shop, Beachland Ballroom, HOB, etc.  Whoever did it would have to try to find some special niche.

Those Case dorms are starting to look impressive.  They seem to match well with the older brownstone apartments around that area.

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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2005, 07:41:42 PM »
yeah, well, considering the amount of investment that CWRU is putting into on-campus housing alone, the Euc' is going to be right on the edge of campus with a whole new population of students just two blocks away.  Add to that the potential redevelopment of several sites nearby and the existing housing that's already there...there's got to at least be a market for a bar/pub/tavern, right?  The other thing about the Euc' is that it wasn't exactly the ideal spot to see or hear music, but it's a great place to have a beer and hang out.  The market will bring it back...believe!

and yes, walking around the CWRU/Wade Oval area reinvigorated my belief that it is one of the most beautiful places in the city...just give people a place to LIVE down there and it'll get even hotter!!!

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« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2005, 10:21:37 AM »
what, are they knocking down the old stuff??? 

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« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2005, 10:41:39 AM »
Once they finish the North Residential Village this summer, they are supposed to start knocking down the old dorms in groups of three and replacing them.  I don't know the timeline, but I got the impression that it will be a continual process.  This should really change things for the better.  Even before I knew what good architecture was, I hated thos old dorms across from Arabica. Very depressing and cold.

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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2005, 10:52:25 AM »
really?  that's great, because the ones that I was standing next to when i took those pictures were terrible!  i mean, i had some of the worst while at UC, but come on, these things looked like temporary military housing on stilts!

So, i guess i assumed (bad move) that they were going to try to lure more students to either stay on campus longer or move to campus where they would otherwise commute.  i'm assuming they have an undergraduate residency requirement like most other schools, but if they wanted to provide an option for students to stay on campus longer and not move elsewhere, the new housing would suit that purpose.  either way (knocking down or leaving the old stuff) I think there are going to be many more rooms for students in the neighborhood and students like to hang out and drink beer (sometimes even legally!), so the effect on the stretch of Euclid closer to 120th Street could still be noticeable.