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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #90 on: January 17, 2017, 10:39:45 AM »


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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #91 on: January 17, 2017, 10:40:24 AM »
^ What you talkin' bout Willis?

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2017, 10:47:21 AM »
Sure seems like they are putting in more windows on the south face of the building.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2017, 04:42:24 PM »
^ those notches have been there for a while. I have no idea what they're for.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #94 on: March 11, 2017, 01:29:23 AM »
^live action platforming game.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2017, 11:30:20 PM »
I had no idea this building had interior spaces like this....

Breaking Ground
PHOTOS: inside the grand and historic Standard Building
KARIN CONNELLY RICE | WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 2017

As only the second owner in the Standard Building’s history, Weston, Inc. has spent the past three years transforming the former bank and office building into 281 apartments that follow the latest trends in downtown Cleveland living.

The building sits in the heart of downtown at 99 W. St. Clair Ave. Now dubbed simply, The Standard, the project is set to be completed later this year. The building once housed the offices of famed Cleveland safety director Eliot Ness and served as a registration site for draftees during World War II through the 1960s.
 
“There’s staggering history there and we’re only the second owner,” says Suzanne Broadbent, Weston’s dealmaker. “We’re very excited about this project. It’s a huge project for us and a huge project for downtown Cleveland, We think it will change the landscape of downtown.”

Fresh Water recently had the chance to get a sneak peek at the progress in the historic building during a Cleveland Restoration Society SNOOPS tour.

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http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/TheStandard051017.aspx
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #96 on: May 11, 2017, 12:28:02 AM »
The windows can’t be seen if you’re standing in Public Square, says Baniszewski, in keeping with the historic look of the building and historic tax credit requirements, but “it’s a really cool picture postcard view of the Terminal Tower,” he says.

This is ridiculous. Do the tax credits actually require that an enormous blank, windowless wall face Public Square? That can't be right.
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #97 on: May 11, 2017, 07:25:22 AM »
For me, it needs a painting of Brian Sipe on it to look historic.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #98 on: May 11, 2017, 07:29:31 AM »
For me, it needs a painting of Brian Sipe on it to look historic.
Hahahahahaha good call!

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« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2017, 08:53:48 AM »
The windows can’t be seen if you’re standing in Public Square, says Baniszewski, in keeping with the historic look of the building and historic tax credit requirements, but “it’s a really cool picture postcard view of the Terminal Tower,” he says.

This is ridiculous. Do the tax credits actually require that an enormous blank, windowless wall face Public Square? That can't be right.

Good question. @ink, do you know if this is the case?

The program has obviously been a huge boon, but would be a bummer if it were taken to literal extremes in cases like this.

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« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2017, 09:15:50 AM »
The windows can’t be seen if you’re standing in Public Square, says Baniszewski, in keeping with the historic look of the building and historic tax credit requirements, but “it’s a really cool picture postcard view of the Terminal Tower,” he says.

This is ridiculous. Do the tax credits actually require that an enormous blank, windowless wall face Public Square? That can't be right.


Unfortunately tax credits are super restrictive.  Hopefully a smart politician will loosen some of the rules about windows.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2017, 09:20:45 AM »
Put a mesh mural/banner on that blank wall, then secretly cut windows out of the wall.
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #102 on: May 11, 2017, 09:25:42 AM »
Those interiors are remarkable.  I did notice that one bedroom apartments are starting around $1700+ at this building?  That is pretty high.  It seems we are pushing avg. rent Downtown upwards very quickly with these new projects.  Some of the K&D re-habs have rents starting under 1,000 but I think those days are nearly behind us.
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #103 on: May 11, 2017, 09:30:25 AM »
The windows can’t be seen if you’re standing in Public Square, says Baniszewski, in keeping with the historic look of the building and historic tax credit requirements, but “it’s a really cool picture postcard view of the Terminal Tower,” he says.

This is ridiculous. Do the tax credits actually require that an enormous blank, windowless wall face Public Square? That can't be right.

Good question. @ink, do you know if this is the case?

The program has obviously been a huge boon, but would be a bummer if it were taken to literal extremes in cases like this.

I do not know the specifics about this project, although from my memory of the interior of the building, much of the back wall is consumed by elevators so windows would not be feasible.

In general, new window openings are a point of scrutiny in tax credit reviews. I worked on a project in Columbus where windows were restricted on the side elevation of an industrial building because it would have changed the industrial character of that building. As an industrial storage building, it would have never had windows so introducing a ton of glass was incongruous.

I have seen window openings permitted on elevations with more limited visibility (looking into an alley, property rear, side street, etc.), but given that this elevation is highly visible I'm sure there was concern about changing the character of the building. It's an urban, lot-line building built with the expectation that a neighbor would block its views in the future. But again, I'm not sure that windows would have even been feasible given the building's floorplan.


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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #104 on: May 11, 2017, 09:46:54 AM »
Pretty exciting.  The Standard has beautiful Art Deco detailing... When this building is finished, along with TT, the Beacon, Garfield and, maybe, Union Trust, the downtown apt population is going to skyrocket.

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #105 on: May 11, 2017, 10:13:53 AM »
^ also The Leader and CAC and The Edge/CSU and The Halle all under construction...

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #106 on: May 11, 2017, 10:15:28 AM »
....And more coming!
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #107 on: June 06, 2017, 01:16:38 PM »
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/06082017/index.php

3. Case 17-032  (15-063 Approve 10/8/15)
Standard Building
1370 Ontario Street
Signs
Ward 3
McCormack
Marc Baniszewski
Sandvick Architects

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #108 on: June 06, 2017, 03:48:32 PM »
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/06082017/index.php

3. Case 17-032  (15-063 Approve 10/8/15)
Standard Building
1370 Ontario Street
Signs
Ward 3
McCormack
Marc Baniszewski
Sandvick Architects



I have loved everything they have done/tried to do with this project. But I am NOT feeling that signage, at least as it appears in the rendering

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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2017, 03:57:28 PM »
Rather than looking like the W Hotel; since  the Weston W in a circle will mean nothing to most people; this would be much better at the top of the penthouse. It's the building logo for advertising purposes, and much classier because it's period appropriate.

Image Source: thestantardcle.com

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« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2017, 04:58:33 PM »
 I like the W logo on top. To the uninformed and out of towner it looks like there is a Westin Hotel on that corner.  :-)
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2017, 08:40:25 PM »
How many people are going to mistakenly show up there thinking it's the Westin?

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« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2017, 08:54:18 PM »
How many people are going to mistakenly show up there thinking it's the Westin?

It's not like they're both on the same street. Oh, wait....
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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #113 on: September 28, 2017, 01:49:56 PM »
They've taken down the scaffolding on the Ontario side of the building!!!  It's looking good!!!



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« Reply #114 on: September 28, 2017, 02:04:15 PM »
I think that black wall is just waiting for the biggest digital screen in the state to be installed on it... or one big @ss mural. 
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I walked by today as well... it was weird seeing the scaffolding down.  I guess I got used to it!
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« Reply #115 on: September 28, 2017, 02:06:52 PM »
I'd like to see a living wall. Something like this:


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« Reply #116 on: September 28, 2017, 02:26:39 PM »
Wonder how that would hold up (or look) during the fall / winter months??

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« Reply #117 on: September 28, 2017, 03:05:04 PM »
Tweet from @YvetteIttu (Economic and Community Developer, #CRE Real Estate Investor)

Site visit this morning of The Standard apartment project overlooking @CLEPublicSquare - Now these are some serious views of @DowntownCLE







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Re: Cleveland: Downtown: Standard Building
« Reply #118 on: September 28, 2017, 03:06:58 PM »
yes please

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« Reply #119 on: September 28, 2017, 06:49:06 PM »
Sign me up, dammit!