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Re: Cleveland: Duck Island: Development and News
« Reply #90 on: August 20, 2014, 09:44:10 AM »
That's for the Brickman development. It's no longer an Adobe project due to a falling out with a project partner.

So Brickman is doing this on his own - not under the Abode name?

Solved my own question: It will be developed under the Brickhaus Partners name.

Rendering and marketing material here:
http://www.brickhauspartners.com/ohio-city/index.html
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« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2014, 11:25:20 AM »
That's for the Brickman development. It's no longer an Adobe project due to a falling out with a project partner.

So Brickman is doing this on his own - not under the Abode name?

Solved my own question: It will be developed under the Brickhaus Partners name.

Rendering and marketing material here:
http://www.brickhauspartners.com/ohio-city/index.html
Anyone else notice the "two drive thrus" available? Maybe I'm crazy...but that's not typically my first thought when someone says world class in the next paragraph.

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« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2014, 11:41:03 AM »
Anyone else notice the "two drive thrus" available? Maybe I'm crazy...but that's not typically my first thought when someone says world class in the next paragraph.

It's a drive-through under the building so a bank can locate there and offer a drive-through so that it doesn't disrupt the streetwall. Sounds like an attempt to mix suburbia with "urbia" -- we'll see how it goes. This is a close-up of the conceptual site plan from Page 1.....

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Re: Cleveland: Duck Island: Development and News
« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2014, 12:01:17 PM »
Based on the location of the development, I'm not sure how "jazzed" I am about a retail component.  The development isn't exactly pedestrian friendly being that it is located on what I always call the on-ramp to the Hope Memorial Bridge.  I would rather see all residential versus any retail here. 

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« Reply #94 on: August 20, 2014, 10:00:04 PM »
Cleveland City Council approves 200-apartment development near Ohio City, OK's towing fee hike, and more

Council unanimously voted to:

1. Rezone land for a planned residential development near the Ohio City / Tremont border

The rezoning will make way for a 200-apartment plus residential development near the Ohio City and Tremont neighborhood border.

The 4-acre development, west of the Carnegie (Hope Memorial) bridge, will overlook the Cuyahoga River and downtown Cleveland. The Cleveland Planning Commission gave the development a preliminary nod last February.

Developer Andrew Brickman said he expects the site, which will also include commercial space, will eventually be valued at between $30 million and $40 million.

"We see this project as a key point in the city's renaissance," he said.

http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2014/08/cleveland_city_council_approve_6.html#incart_river


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« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2014, 11:12:36 AM »
New conceptual site plan and graphics.....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/09052014/index.php

City Planning Commission
Agenda for September 5, 2014

DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW
1.   DF2013-061 - Ohio City/Brickhaus Partners [formerly Abode] Demolition and Mixed-Use Development
Project Location: West 19th Street and Lorain Avenue
Project Representative: Andrew Brickman, Brickhaus Partners





More graphics including streetviews are available at the above link.

Also note there's some zoning housekeeping stuff being considered for this same area.....

ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS
3.   Ordinance No. xxx-14(Ward 3/Councilmember Cimperman): Establishing new mapped setbacks on parcels located on the west side of West 18th Street between Smith Court and the Lorain Carnegie Bridge.
Presenter: Daniel DeAngelo, City of Cleveland
4.   Ordinance No. xxx-14(Ward 3/Councilmember Cimperman): Establishing new mapped setbacks on parcels located on the east side of West 19th Street between Smith Court and the Lorain Carnegie bridge.
Presenter: Daniel DeAngelo, City of Cleveland
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« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2014, 11:26:28 AM »
^ So it looks like the site plan changed considerably from the earlier concepts.  I can't read the text but is that a 6 story apartment building fronting Lorain built above parking?  If so, that's a huge improvement from the 3 story building with drive through lanes and the massive surface lot.  This change may be driven by some residential hold-out properties that have appeared in this new site plan but were absent from the original.
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« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2014, 01:30:20 PM »
^ So it looks like the site plan changed considerably from the earlier concepts.  I can't read the text but is that a 6 story apartment building fronting Lorain built above parking?  If so, that's a huge improvement from the 3 story building with drive through lanes and the massive surface lot.  This change may be driven by some residential hold-out properties that have appeared in this new site plan but were absent from the original.

It's changed a lot. And yes, that's a 6-story apartment building above parking with leasable commercial spaces fronting Lorain. Very nice! Proposed to be demolished are the structures shown in the pictures at:  http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/09052014/index.php

However these are proposed to remain:

This brick structure (R.C. Hauk & Son Inc.) and the two houses beyond it on the east side of West 20th would remain:


Close-up of the two houses north of Hauk & Son's brick building, in the 1900 block of West 20th, east side of street:


1900 block of West 20th, west side of street. This brick double would remain, as would the house behind the vine-covered wall at right (no streetview is available as it is on a long driveway off Moore Court):


These two houses in the 1900 block of West 19th (west side of street) would remain, as would the garage at right:
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« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2014, 11:24:16 AM »
I feel like I should know this by now but.....

Abode was granted approval of the conceptual site plan by the Downtown/Flats Design Review on December 6th, 2013 (http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/09052014/index.php)

And now Brickhaus (formerly Abode) is seeking a Zoning Map Amendment and another site/development approval by the Downtown/Flats Design Review tomorrow (September, 5th, 2014) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/09052014/index.php

....so, if everything is voted in the affirmative tomorrow, does Brickhaus have any other administrative hurdles (excluding routine stuff like permitting, etc.) before it is free and clear to build?
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« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2014, 12:16:26 PM »
It may already be in hand, but doesn't a zoning change also need planning commission approval?

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« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2014, 10:59:02 AM »
It may already be in hand, but doesn't a zoning change also need planning commission approval?

I seem to recall zoning changes for Brickhaus come before CPC for this project earlier this summer.
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« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2014, 11:01:31 AM »
Was anyone at CPC this morning?

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« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2014, 11:52:53 AM »
^I like the changes, esp the larger (6 story, 200-room) apartment which will similarly (to the original proposal) front along Lorain... Also, the new "Brickhaus" name is kinda cool.

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« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2014, 11:57:43 AM »
The Ohio Burial Case Co. building at 1720 Columbus is a great building. I hope Brian Fabo, through Fabco Flats LLC, can do good things with that building.

And Cleveland Centre was intended to be a European-based town center. It was laid out in the early 19th century with a starburst of streets from a central focal point that became a common market place. Remember that streets back then were places for people, not vehicles, so vendors, merchants, commodity brokers and mercantilists all gathered at confluence of streets to buy and sell things as they came in from the hinterlands of America on Ohio Canal packets before being placed on ships for Great Lakes port cities -- the most prominent of which was Lockport, NY where goods would be sent east on the Erie Canal. Cleveland Centre is where this trade happened until the canal business outgrew this area and began moving up the hill into what is now the Warehouse District -- which some claim is Cleveland's first central business district. Not true. Cleveland Centre was Cleveland's first central business district back when water transportation had little competition -- including for the mass transportation of of goods across the land!

Yet another history lesson from KJP!... Man, you've gotta pull that book together capitalizing on your wealth of CLE history knowledge.

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« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2014, 03:48:05 PM »
^I like the changes, esp the larger (6 story, 200-room) apartment which will similarly (to the original proposal) front along Lorain... Also, the new "Brickhaus" name is kinda cool.

Brickhaus was forced by the dissolution of the Abode partnership due to a falling out between the project partners.

Yet another history lesson from KJP!... Man, you've gotta pull that book together capitalizing on your wealth of CLE history knowledge.

Thanks. I guess I have a hard time recognizing what people know history-wise, and what they don't know. I don't want to waste my time writing about things that people already know about. But I would like to write about how my 5x great grandfather (the first Prendergast from my family in America) was sentenced to death for treason for leading the first armed battle by colonists against the British, 10 years before the Declaration of Independence. How he survived and the fact he was a loyalist only made the story more intriguing.

To bring this back around to Cleveland history, the greatest injustice to local history is that we don't have a statue to Alfred Kelly in this city. General Moses Cleaveland planned this city but he never even lived here. Alfred Kelly is the reason why Cleveland became a major city. I'd put his statue at Canal Basin Park. I hope the reasons are obvious.
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« Reply #105 on: October 15, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »
So, for those that qualify as accredited investors, there is a new way to invest in local real estate projects.  Vestor, a local start-up, is selling shares of debt for a Brewery project in Duck Island.  You can buy any amount of the 50 available shares for $5,000 each.  If you buy $25,000 or more worth of the fund you get preferred equity in the project.  For the debt holders, your return is 8% with an exit after the 5th year.

This is a very cool funding model that has the potential to get a lot more local investors involved in local real estate deals.  In turn, it's a great tool for developers to raise capital.  Here is a link to Vestor's offering: http://www.vestor.co/Forest-City-Brewery (Add yourself to the mailing list for future offerings)

Here is the location of the brewery (red pin):


For those that are interested in investing or know someone who might be, please feel free to DM me for more information.  Or, feel free to DM me if you are just interested in Vestor.

*Please note that only accredited investors or corporate entities may buy shares.  Definition of accredited investor:
In the United States, for an individual to be considered an accredited investor, they must have a net worth of at least one million US dollars, not including the value of their primary residence or have income at least $200,000 each year for the last two years (or $300,000 together with their spouse if married) and have the expectation to make the same amount this year."

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« Reply #106 on: October 17, 2014, 02:06:03 PM »
This is for the Abode development......

West 21st is more of a paper street, used by a house as its driveway. But it still legally exists -- for now:

TUESDAY, October 21, 2014 | 9:30 a.m.
Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee

Res. 1031-14
By Council Members K. Johnson and Brancatelli (by departmental request)

Declaring the intent to vacate a portion of West 21st Street (12.00 feet wide) and a portion of Moore Avenue N.W. (66.00 feet wide).
Remarks by Director of Office of Capital Projects:  See Legislation.

PASSAGE RECOMMENDED BY COMMITTEE ON MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND PROPERTIES.
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« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2014, 03:34:20 PM »
Duck yeah!!!

Cleveland beer garden from late 1800s is being brought back to life as Forest City Brewery

By STAN BULLARD
October 26, 2014 4:30 AM

Two types of equity old-fashioned sweat equity familiar to the West Side and new-breed crowdfunding that uses an Internet platform to find investors are going into a plan to resurrect a one-time beer garden as part of a brewery in Cleveland's Duck Island.

Originally, the partners planning to open the Forest City Brewery and beer-tasting pub wanted a different site, but Sammy Catania, a staffer at the Tremont West Development Corp. nonprofit, showed them a subdued gray commercial building on the southeast corner of Columbus Road and Freeman Avenue. In 1915, the timber frame warehouse had gone in atop a site that housed the Silberberg Bros. Beer Garden from 1880 to 1900.

Jay Demagall, a partner in the Forest City Brewery venture, said the group was sold when it found that part of the beer garden now a grassy yard still exists.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20141026/SUB1/310269966/cleveland-beer-garden-from-late-1800s-is-being-brought-back-to-life

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« Reply #108 on: November 21, 2014, 11:16:07 AM »
Forest City Brewery embraces history as it sets to open in Cleveland

By  Marc Bona, Northeast Ohio Media Group   
on November 21, 2014 at 8:00 AM, updated November 21, 2014 at 8:12 AM

CLEVELAND, Ohio Jay Demagall spends his days thinking about the past as much as the future.

He and his business partners have a spring target date to open Forest City Brewery in the Duck Island part of Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood. It's one of the latest brewing endeavors in a city that has embraced craft beer as a creative industry that appears to be sustaining its growth.

But it's the past that Demagall embraces.

The 43-year-old plays vintage base ball two words, since we're talking 19th century here using old-style rules. He has a degree in history from the University of Toledo. He rattles off historical footnotes of old ballplayers and Cleveland history. And the brewery, which will sit at Columbus Road and Freeman Avenue, already has nostalgic connections to an era gone but not forgotten, at least not by Demagall.

http://www.cleveland.com/drinks/index.ssf/2014/11/forest_city_brewery_embraces_h.html

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Re: Cleveland: Duck Island: Development and News
« Reply #109 on: November 22, 2014, 04:14:44 PM »
A several adjacent parcels (00401045, 004-01-046, 004-01-054, 00401043, 004-01-052) forming a nice chunk of land stretching from west 19th to west 20th sold in early October.

most of the parcels were previously owned by the Haab bakery trust; all of them are owned by URBAN INVESTMENTS CLE LLC;

The parcel where the abbey market is not sold and a parcel adjacent to the abbey market (directly north) - 004-01-046, is by DI DEVELOPMENT, LLC, which is likely owned by Matt Berges (who owns ~12 parcels in duck island), he also owns the Southwest corner of west 19th and abbey which is currently a vacant lot.

see this map that I quickly made for an illustration - https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/skorasaurus.ka0bl058/page.html?access_token=pk.eyJ1Ijoic2tvcmFzYXVydXMiLCJhIjoiaEdGTUZWTSJ9.osOC8tWU3bMaNprVNoEu7g#19/41.48484/-81.69835


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« Reply #110 on: November 23, 2014, 08:25:05 AM »
Matt Berges also owns Urban Investments CLE LCC which was formed in August:

http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/reports/rwservlet?imgc&Din=201421700981
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« Reply #111 on: November 26, 2014, 10:39:51 AM »
KJP,

Has he done any projects, buildings in Duck Island so far with the lots he owns?

Also of note, a new house is going up in Duck Island ; another was demolished yesterday on a lot owned by Berges, on West 19th, just north of Abbey. The house had a very large fire some time in the past couple months. - https://www.flickr.com/photos/skorasaurus/15698627549/

The new house going up - corner of 19th and Smith - https://www.flickr.com/photos/skorasaurus/15698627549/ -
This lot was sold by Berges (DI DEVELOPMENT, LLC) in October for $283K!
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« Reply #112 on: November 26, 2014, 10:54:53 AM »
Has he done any projects, buildings in Duck Island so far with the lots he owns?


Yes, I believe Berges has built houses in Duck Island. W28th can provide more info.
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« Reply #113 on: November 26, 2014, 02:59:00 PM »
The houses going up at the corner of West 19th & Smith are the first houses that Mr. Berges has constructed in Duck Island, though he has built several super insulated, low energy houses throughout the City.  The lots at W19th & Smith were sold to an architect, with Berges acting as the builder.

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« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2014, 08:39:44 AM »
Noticed last night the home located at 2133 West 20TH Street ( I think) has been torn down. Currently owned by 4400 Development LLC (Owen McBride - and has been part of the McBride family since at least 1997). Does not ring a bell and I don't recall seeing this on any previously scheduled meetings. Anyone else recall what might be happening here?

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« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2014, 11:58:45 AM »
A puff piece, but not sure how we missed this over from November...

Relocation specialist Ted Theophylactos, with Howard Hanna's Cleveland City office, jumps out of his car at the quiet corner of Lorain Ave. and W. 17th St.
"You won't believe this view," Theophylactos said, waving his arms in the direction he wanted visitors to the Cleveland neighborhood of Duck Island to see.
But pointing wasn't necessary. What resembled a giant postcard of Cleveland's skyline as seen from the west on a bright fall day loomed large.

http://www.cleveland.com/pdrealestate/plaindealer/index.ssf/2014/11/clevelands_duck_island_is_hatching_new_luxury_housing_on_the_west_side.html

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« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2015, 11:10:07 PM »
Forest City Brewery embraces history as it sets to open in Cleveland

By  Marc Bona, Northeast Ohio Media Group   
on November 21, 2014 at 8:00 AM, updated November 21, 2014 at 8:12 AM

CLEVELAND, Ohio Jay Demagall spends his days thinking about the past as much as the future.

He and his business partners have a spring target date to open Forest City Brewery in the Duck Island part of Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood. It's one of the latest brewing endeavors in a city that has embraced craft beer as a creative industry that appears to be sustaining its growth.

But it's the past that Demagall embraces.

The 43-year-old plays vintage base ball two words, since we're talking 19th century here using old-style rules. He has a degree in history from the University of Toledo. He rattles off historical footnotes of old ballplayers and Cleveland history. And the brewery, which will sit at Columbus Road and Freeman Avenue, already has nostalgic connections to an era gone but not forgotten, at least not by Demagall.

http://www.cleveland.com/drinks/index.ssf/2014/11/forest_city_brewery_embraces_h.html


I'm one of the owners of the meadery mentioned in this article.  We're real excited to be a part of all that is happening in Duck Island.  The building is great, and Jay has a truly inspiring vision for this property and for our little group of businesses.  We will have a brewery, a meadery, and a coffee roaster on premise.  There'll be opportunities for collaboration between us- think coffee beers, coffee meads, barley and honey wines, etc.  There's a possibility of a distiller coming into the project as well, which offers additional possibilities (Fermented mead?  Never seen anyone else doing it!)  The building itself is going to be very interesting, with lots of repurposed historic materials.  The ownership group also has the building across the street, and some interesting plans for it that I won't make public yet. I have some pictures of the neighborhood, and of the building in the demo stage.  I'll keep you updated, as well!

The corner of the complex is an 1880's house, it will be part of Forest City Brewery's facility and upstairs will be an apartment.


The two windows on the right will be our frontage, with the left of those two windows coming out to be replaced with a front door.  To the left will be Duck Rabbit Coffee.


Looking south along Columbus Rd. from the front of the building.


The Westside Market, as seen from in front of our building.  One of the things we love about this location!


Freeman Ave runs between the two buildings making up the complex.


With a couple of new walls, this will be our production facility.  We will have a tasting room to the left.


This is looking towards the front of the tasting room, the door will be inserted where the window to the right is currently.  The framing will come out and the brick will be cleaned up. The cast iron radiators, once cleaned, are going to make nice accent pieces.  We might use them as part of the base for our service bar.


The 2x4's are going to come out and the timber ceiling will be exposed.


Let me know if you have any questions on anything!  I'm putting a link to our facebook page in my sig line, too.  Please like us!
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« Reply #117 on: January 12, 2015, 05:53:51 AM »
^ congrats! That's awesome.

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« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2015, 08:37:35 AM »
Can't wait to check it out!

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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2015, 09:39:21 AM »
Wow, very cool- congrats!  And thanks for the behind-the-scenes photos.  Look forward to seeing some progress shots.  Is the building across the street that the owners bought the Duck Island Club storefront or something else?