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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #150 on: August 10, 2018, 01:46:46 PM »
I just had lunch at Kruegers and there was a homeless person out front telling (almost yelling to) anyone she could about the new camp around the corner and how they could use anything to help like hand sanitizer or water.

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« Reply #151 on: August 10, 2018, 02:19:59 PM »
Yeah the city needs to get them out of there asap. 

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« Reply #152 on: August 10, 2018, 02:51:57 PM »
I mean they can also take the drug dealers with them on the way out.

I'd almost rather have homeless camps, than drug dealers who could mug you at any time to increase his paystub for the day. That lot really should be developed by now....Advocates complain that OTR doesn't have enough affordable housing, and gentrification and blah blah blah...yet they are sitting on an empty lot that is used for drug dealers, and homless camps...what a joke these organizations are. They only look out for themselves in the end. 

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #153 on: August 10, 2018, 02:55:16 PM »
Friday nights are particularly bad for drug dealing in that area.  Tonight is going to be rough.
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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #154 on: August 10, 2018, 03:02:33 PM »
This might be a rhetorical question, but if this is a, "private" park is it legal for the owners to allow illegal drug activity on their private land? Do laws not abide anymore if the land is designated private? Curious, because im sure the owners of the lot know what is going on in that sub park. No actual otr resident uses that park, and I always try to avoid that street at night because i'm afraid of becoming a victim.

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #155 on: August 10, 2018, 03:07:35 PM »
I do know it makes some laws harder to enforce. Like if a car accident happens in a mall parking lot all the police do is take a report (as long as there aren't drugs or alcohol involved) and then the accident becomes no-fault. Also there aren't any citations.

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« Reply #156 on: August 10, 2018, 05:52:00 PM »
This might be a rhetorical question, but if this is a, "private" park is it legal for the owners to allow illegal drug activity on their private land? Do laws not abide anymore if the land is designated private? Curious, because im sure the owners of the lot know what is going on in that sub park. No actual otr resident uses that park, and I always try to avoid that street at night because i'm afraid of becoming a victim.

Technically no, if it is a controlled substance owners of private property have a duty to report it or they may be subject to fines. This is often easier said than done and hard to enforce but technically it is the law.

For example, in apartments, if your tenant is known to have drugs in the unit (even if they are not a dealer) then under Ohio law, you are required to evict them (if you can prove the illegal drug activity). If you do not evict them and let the illegal drug activity go on, the landlord may be subjected to fines.

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #157 on: August 10, 2018, 08:35:50 PM »
So is someone going to bring in Port-A-Lets for the homeless to use, or are they just gonna start using every nook and cranny and alley in that area as their restroom?

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #158 on: August 13, 2018, 08:48:33 AM »
So is someone going to bring in Port-A-Lets for the homeless to use, or are they just gonna start using every nook and cranny and alley in that area as their restroom?

The latter sadly.
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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #159 on: August 13, 2018, 08:51:43 AM »
This might be a rhetorical question, but if this is a, "private" park is it legal for the owners to allow illegal drug activity on their private land? Do laws not abide anymore if the land is designated private? Curious, because im sure the owners of the lot know what is going on in that sub park. No actual otr resident uses that park, and I always try to avoid that street at night because i'm afraid of becoming a victim.

Technically no, if it is a controlled substance owners of private property have a duty to report it or they may be subject to fines. This is often easier said than done and hard to enforce but technically it is the law.

For example, in apartments, if your tenant is known to have drugs in the unit (even if they are not a dealer) then under Ohio law, you are required to evict them (if you can prove the illegal drug activity). If you do not evict them and let the illegal drug activity go on, the landlord may be subjected to fines.

If that's true about evictions that's pretty funny.  The head of Tender Mercies has told me that new-ish HUD rules indicate they are required to try to keep drug addicts housed even if they're actively abusing.  This means their properties on 12th Street between Race and Vine are a constant nuisance with drug abuse/dealing happening all the time in front of their buildings as well as in the surrounding area.
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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #160 on: August 13, 2018, 09:40:40 AM »
It is an example where HUD regs conflict with state law and in some cases federal law. This is what leads to lawsuits because you have landlords trying to follow 3 different laws in conflict with each other in many cases. In some cases the Fed law and HUD rules are in direct conflict with each other and some law firms use this to exploit the issue.

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #161 on: August 13, 2018, 12:43:59 PM »
The tent village on Republic St. seems like a bit of a non-event.  It's not quite big enough or high profile enough to really piss off the general public.  It is, however, very close to Washington Park, so we again, 30 years later, see homeless advocates trying to move their people as close to Music Hall (and rich people) as possible.

Speaking of rich people, I noticed that the lots that Josh Spring's organization owns on Vine across from and just north of Kroger are still being used for parking for who-knows-who.  So if Spring really wanted a higher profile location for his people, they could be setting up on those very valuable vacant lots next to his building.  But they didn't want to inconvenience whoever parks there, which likely includes Spring himself.

Also, Spring still personally owns the 90x90 foot parcel on York St. near Kaiser Pickle.  He put the lots up for sale earlier this year but they did not sell.  He personally owns land where people could camp but he doesn't invite them there - he puts them instead at the corner of Republic & 13th. 

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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #162 on: August 18, 2018, 07:45:21 PM »
Photo images do not capture the pervasive odor of human feces. Nonetheless, a little of the reason local residents do not like homeless outdoor living can be seen from the image below. This is my parking pad in the rear of my well occupied building.
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Re: Cincinnati's Homeless Population
« Reply #163 on: August 24, 2018, 12:00:16 PM »
Um, no thanks, Facebook.
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