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« Reply #120 on: August 07, 2018, 08:58:27 AM »
You knew that was going to happen.  I'm willing to bet Josh Spring is telling them each time where to setup the new camp.  I'm not sure why Deters wanted to make Central the north end of the no camps zone, now he's just going to piss off the casino and all the people/businesses in OTR and Pendleton.  He should have made the line Liberty or McMiken. 

Also there were still plenty of tents on 3rd St this morning.  We'll see if they move out today or if they stay and continue to fight.  If they don't leave hopefully they stop babying the situation and just arrest them. 

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« Reply #121 on: August 07, 2018, 09:08:22 AM »
I just dropped off my daughter at a daycare around 8am this morning on Third and Walnut and I didn't see a single tent.
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« Reply #122 on: August 07, 2018, 09:12:00 AM »
I just dropped off my daughter at a daycare around 8am this morning on Third and Walnut and I didn't see a single tent.
I know that's where most of them were but I can't see that area while walking to work.  There were still 5-10 of them on 3rd between Race and Elm around 7:45.  Good to hear they're in the process of clearing them out though. 

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« Reply #123 on: August 07, 2018, 09:43:37 AM »
The camp by lytle tunnel under 71 was still going strong at 830 am. They are suppose to be moved out as well.

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« Reply #124 on: August 07, 2018, 12:48:37 PM »
You knew that was going to happen.  I'm willing to bet Josh Spring is telling them each time where to setup the new camp.  I'm not sure why Deters wanted to make Central the north end of the no camps zone, now he's just going to piss off the casino and all the people/businesses in OTR and Pendleton.  He should have made the line Liberty or McMiken. 

So long as the city is only allowed to enforce the law in certain, specific areas, the camps will continue to relocate. The problem will perpetually be moved like a big game of whack-a-mole, and the Josh Spring's of the world will always be there to make sure the problem moves from one in-your-face location to another.

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« Reply #127 on: August 07, 2018, 02:33:36 PM »
Did they take the streetcar?

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« Reply #128 on: August 07, 2018, 02:54:37 PM »
I cant wait until city council cuts the funding to Josh Spring's organization for this clown show.

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« Reply #129 on: August 08, 2018, 11:18:56 AM »
Anyone have an update on the Lytle tunnel encampment or Jack Casino one?
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« Reply #130 on: August 08, 2018, 11:25:17 AM »
^ Deters went back to the court yesterday and extended the "no-tent zone" from the Ohio River to the Norwood Lateral, between 71 and 75. The first time I heard that I thought it was a joke because the border seems so arbitrary. So far I don't think the police have taken down the encampments, though - per the Enquirer:

"As of 9:45 a.m., tents were still up on Central Parkway and no police or sheriff's personnel were seen."

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/08/08/cincinnati-homeless-camp-jack-casino-move-police/928408002/

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« Reply #131 on: August 08, 2018, 11:31:33 AM »
Yeah, I heard about the extension of the borders.  Has anyone walked by either Lytle Tunnel or Jack Casino yet today?
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« Reply #132 on: August 08, 2018, 11:44:13 AM »
This was an informative listen from the beginning, but particularly revelant from -11.00 on. He mentions how there are two guys using this as a personal stand for themselves and disappear when the cameras are gone. We can speculate on who he means by the other but one is identified shortly after this clip starts. Hard issue all around but these people surely don't need to be pawns in other peoples quest for fame/recognition. 


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« Reply #133 on: August 08, 2018, 12:25:00 PM »
They have removed the camp by the south entrance of Lytle Tunnel across from US Bank Arena.

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« Reply #134 on: August 09, 2018, 05:01:35 PM »
Deters is finally looking to get rid of the tent-city enforcement boundaries and extend the ability to shut down the camps to the entire county:

Deters wants homeless ban for all of Hamilton County: 'They need to go to shelters'

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/08/09/homeless-ban-deters-wants-extended-all-hamilton-county/947325002/


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« Reply #135 on: August 09, 2018, 05:14:44 PM »
Great news. It's hard to encourage surburban folk to try, "urban living" when the streets reek of piss, you can visually see human feces on the side walk from the homeless, and encounter constant harassment from the homeless to give, "change", and encounter multiple police visits a night to these said camps.

Good to see this city is finally growing a pair.

I know there needs to more affordable housing options. I understand that. But the majority of these homeless tent residents enjoy there way of life, and enjoy the fact that they can freely be on heroin and drink alcohol whenever they want. They enjoy that freedom.

I can't wait to see Josh Springs load these tent residents on a bus and plop them in Warren County on the streets of West Chester. It's gonna be hilarious!
 

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« Reply #136 on: August 09, 2018, 05:16:49 PM »
Good to see Cranley and Deters taking a strong stance on this.  Trying to work with them or just ignoring the problem is how the west coast cities lost control of this issue.  If you don't want to go to a shelter and get help then find another city to live in. 

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« Reply #137 on: August 09, 2018, 05:19:29 PM »
Good to see Cranley and Deters taking a strong stance on this.  Trying to work with them or just ignoring the problem is how the west coast cities lost control of this issue.  If you don't want to go to a shelter and get help then find another city to live in.

I'm sort of surprised there sticking around the cbd of cincy, and haven't simply jumped across the river to NKY...

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« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2018, 05:24:26 PM »
Good to see Cranley and Deters taking a strong stance on this.  Trying to work with them or just ignoring the problem is how the west coast cities lost control of this issue.  If you don't want to go to a shelter and get help then find another city to live in.

I'm sort of surprised there sticking around the cbd of cincy, and haven't simply jumped across the river to NKY...

It wouldn't be in Josh Spring's interest to do that.  This is all about him.
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« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2018, 06:06:30 PM »
While I like the strong stance, the ACLU will be all over blocking this.

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« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2018, 07:30:21 PM »
Iím no legal expert. But how is it a Civil Liberty (ACLU) to live on the sidewalk (and some - not all - drinking and doing drugs on public land)? There are options to get job training and shelter. If you donít want to contribute to society then you canít expect people to come to the table to come to an agreement.

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« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2018, 07:41:42 PM »
The court ruled in Deters favor, so tent cities are effectively banned county-wide. I've already seen local media and other dweebs on social media start to refer to this as a "homeless ban" so I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being national news within a few days. The Vox's and Huffington Post's of the world love these kinds of stories.

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« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2018, 07:57:06 PM »
What determines what a "tent city" is? Will two tents make up a "tent city"?

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« Reply #143 on: August 10, 2018, 11:42:10 AM »
The homeless camp has moved to a lot at 13th and Republic. At least this made the drug dealers move out.

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« Reply #144 on: August 10, 2018, 12:12:51 PM »
The homeless camp has moved to a lot at 13th and Republic. At least this made the drug dealers move out.
The little grass area?  Not sure why they keep moving somewhere when they know they'll just get kicked out again.  If they find it to be the same people they're continuing to deal with they should arrest them.  And there were drug dealers there before?  I've walked by that area a bunch but maybe I just never noticed them. 

Little "parks" like that really serve no purpose and only attract negative things like homeless and drug activity.  Considering there's a real park less then 300 feet away they should develop that lot.   

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« Reply #145 on: August 10, 2018, 12:30:28 PM »
The homeless camp has moved to a lot at 13th and Republic. At least this made the drug dealers move out.
The little grass area?  Not sure why they keep moving somewhere when they know they'll just get kicked out again.  If they find it to be the same people they're continuing to deal with they should arrest them.  And there were drug dealers there before?  I've walked by that area a bunch but maybe I just never noticed them. 

Little "parks" like that really serve no purpose and only attract negative things like homeless and drug activity.  Considering there's a real park less then 300 feet away they should develop that lot.

It's a privately owned park and they've been given permission by the owner to be there. And yes, drug dealers regularly congregate there.

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« Reply #146 on: August 10, 2018, 12:42:17 PM »
I could be wrong but it appears the owner of that property does not live near there which is a pretty crappy way to help IMHO. I initially thought they lived nearby but did some googling.

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« Reply #147 on: August 10, 2018, 12:46:55 PM »
I could be wrong but it appears the owner of that property does not live near there which is a pretty crappy way to help IMHO. I initially thought they lived nearby but did some googling.

It's owned by Over the Rhine Community Housing, which is on 14th Street. It's a three minute walk away according to Google maps.

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« Reply #148 on: August 10, 2018, 12:57:27 PM »
I could be wrong but it appears the owner of that property does not live near there which is a pretty crappy way to help IMHO. I initially thought they lived nearby but did some googling.

It's owned by Over the Rhine Community Housing, which is on 14th Street. It's a three minute walk away according to Google maps.

Ahhh, thanks looks like my google power was off a bit. I'm sure the neighbors to the 'park' didn't expect that this was one of the ways it was going to be used though. It may be a place for a tent but it has the same problems that all the other places had, namely no bathrooms/showers/privacy or security.

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« Reply #149 on: August 10, 2018, 01:25:54 PM »
There has to be a zoning/use violation here.  I can't believe that in an urban area that camping is permitted like this.  I really hope that the city no longer provides any funding for Over the Rhine Community Housing projects in the future after this.
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