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Offline clvlndr

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard developments
« Reply #90 on: August 05, 2014, 11:06:10 AM »
^That gives me hope JJames... and again, I think little things (my term), like that CVS on Madison are actually big things, for they pump life into a decayed area.  That stretch of Madison, which really has some of Cleveland's most unique and beautiful high-density/residential and mixed use architecture, for too long has had that 'badlands' moniker attached to it.

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard developments
« Reply #91 on: August 05, 2014, 11:08:46 AM »
I agree. I plan to focus on redeveloping properties around the city so I've been trying to do as much research as I can to actually make money doing it as well haha.

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard developments
« Reply #92 on: August 05, 2014, 11:13:13 AM »
I'd love to see the WestBlvd, Desmond, Lake, Detroit area get gentrified.


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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard developments
« Reply #93 on: August 05, 2014, 11:15:13 AM »
I guess I'm just not as hopeful for the area. There are still hundreds of acres of industrial land just sitting idle.

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2014, 02:18:12 PM »
This new house is proposed to be built on the vacant parcel at the SW corner of Clifton and West Boulevard.....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2014/12112014/index.php

Cleveland Landmarks Commission    
CITY HALL - ROOM 514 - 9:00 AM
AGENDA - December 11, 2014

Clifton-West Boulevard Historic District: Case 14-052
10111 Clifton Boulevard
New house construction

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2014, 04:31:01 PM »
Interesting--I thought it was supposed to be town homes there.

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Re: Cleveland - Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2014, 04:39:16 PM »
Interesting--I thought it was supposed to be town homes there.

So did I.
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #97 on: December 10, 2014, 10:42:06 AM »
Interesting--I thought it was supposed to be town homes there.

So did I.

There was a public meeting at Alcott months ago about this.

Never were going to be townhomes.

They require a variance so that they dont have to build 2 homes on that lot.  The proposal is to have 2 homes, one facing each street, with a common wall.


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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2014, 10:43:04 AM »
Interesting--I thought it was supposed to be town homes there.

So did I.

There was a public meeting at Alcott months ago about this.

Never were going to be townhomes.

They require a variance so that they dont have to build 2 homes on that lot.  The proposal is to have 2 homes, one facing each street, with a common wall.

Thanks for the update Dean!

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #99 on: December 10, 2014, 10:43:47 AM »
So that drawing above is for two residential units? If so and they're connected by a common wall, sounds like townhouses to me!
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2014, 11:17:17 AM »
So that drawing above is for two residential units? If so and they're connected by a common wall, sounds like townhouses to me!

I'm just telling you what was reported. I forget what the terminology for the structure was.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #101 on: March 17, 2015, 11:37:59 AM »
See above for a graphic of this development. They are moving forward....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2015/crr04-06-2015.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals
APRIL 6, 2015

9:30

Calendar No. 15-048: 1262 West Boulevard Ward 11
Dona Brady
10 Notice
F.W. Pinard Building Co., owner, proposes to erect a 55x42 frame fee simple single family residence
with attached garage in an A1 One-Family Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the
strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:
1. Section 357.06(a) which states that the required front yard setback is 45 feet and 30 feet are
proposed.
2. Section 357.09(2)(B) which states that no building shall be erected less than 10 feet from a
main building on an adjoining lot within a Residence District; 0 and 33-3 are proposed.
Interior side yard shall not be less than one fourth the height of the main building on the same
premises of 8-6; the appellant is proposing 33-3 and 0. The total width of the side yards
on the same premises shall not be less than 10 and 0 and 33-3 are proposed. (Filed March
4, 2015)
9:30
Calendar No. 15-049: 10011 Clifton Boulevard Ward 11
Dona Brady
10 Notices
F.W. Pinard Building Co., owner, proposes to erect a 55x42 frame fee simple single family residence
with attached garage in an A1 One-Family Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the
strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:
3. Section 357.06(a) which states that the required front yard setback is 45 feet and 30 feet are
proposed.
4. Section 357.09(2)(B) which states that no building shall be erected less than 10 feet from a
main building on an adjoining lot within a Residence District; 0 and 37-11 are proposed.
Interior side yard shall not be less than one fourth the height of the main building on the same
premises of 8-6; the appellant is proposing 37-3 and 0. The total width of the side yards
on the same premises shall not be less than 10 and 0 and 33-3 are proposed. (Filed March
4, 2015)

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #102 on: November 20, 2015, 10:19:33 AM »
How Cudell park has changed in the year since the shooting of Tamir Rice: https://t.co/WbZ9k5WU7X https://t.co/83vw2ATkvb
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2015, 11:51:53 AM »
I don't see how this is development news?

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2015, 11:55:26 AM »
The article notes the park was/is being restored.
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2015, 12:00:42 PM »
This?

"In an effort to get past the protests and the tragedy, community members collaborated this summer on the Butterfly Project ---- a garden, decorated with plants, painted stones and signs with messages about Tamir."

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2015, 12:01:51 PM »
No. EDIT: shouldn't we be having this conversation in PM?
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #107 on: March 15, 2016, 01:22:28 PM »
What an awful location for the new city kennel. Someday, Cleveland is going to institute a planning rule that no developments should be built within 1,000 feet of a rail transit station unless a reputable market analysis shows it can contribute X passengers to that station per day. I'm pretty sure that the following development would fail that test, even if the minimum number of passengers was one....

http://www.sustainablecleveland.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/URS-CLE-Kennel-9007-Detroit-Ave-Site4-GG-2-6.pdf

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/03182016/index.php

FAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW
FW2016-006 City Kennel New Construction: Seeking Conceptual Approval
Project Address: 9007 Detroit Avenue
Project Representative: Christopher Diehl, City of Cleveland

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #108 on: March 15, 2016, 02:01:02 PM »
^Seems like a wasted opportunity, but the walk to the West Blvd Station isn't that great. The location is weird and this area has a weird layout.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #109 on: March 15, 2016, 02:13:01 PM »
^Seems like a wasted opportunity, but the walk to the West Blvd Station isn't that great. The location is weird and this area has a weird layout.

It's a straight shot west on Detroit Avenue. A 5-minute walk in a pedestrian-friendly setting. Granted it's at the outer edge of the 5-minute walking range of a station hinterland. But it's such a big parcel in a neighborhood that I had much higher hopes for it than this. Even a retailer/light industry/warehousing site would be preferable to the city kennel. Are there other city kennels or is this it? If so, how is this centrally located?
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #110 on: March 15, 2016, 02:19:38 PM »
This is the old Trinity site, no?

I know the info is out there, but does anyone know off-hand the current environmental status of the property and whether it's city-owned?

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #111 on: March 15, 2016, 02:23:29 PM »
^Seems like a wasted opportunity, but the walk to the West Blvd Station isn't that great. The location is weird and this area has a weird layout.

It's a straight shot west on Detroit Avenue. A 5-minute walk in a pedestrian-friendly setting. Granted it's at the outer edge of the 5-minute walking range of a station hinterland. But it's such a big parcel in a neighborhood that I had much higher hopes for it than this. Even a retailer/light industry/warehousing site would be preferable to the city kennel. Are there other city kennels or is this it? If so, how is this centrally located?

KJP, I'm a little surprised that you didn't know about this earlier ;) This site has been floated as the next kennel for a couple years.... The current Kennel is adjacent to Clark Fields, on West 7th - http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/untitled-map_76353

straphangar, at work atm, but iirc, it is a city site and was remediated.
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #112 on: March 15, 2016, 02:27:48 PM »
It's a straight shot west on Detroit Avenue. A 5-minute walk in a pedestrian-friendly setting. Granted it's at the outer edge of the 5-minute walking range of a station hinterland. But it's such a big parcel in a neighborhood that I had much higher hopes for it than this. Even a retailer/light industry/warehousing site would be preferable to the city kennel. Are there other city kennels or is this it? If so, how is this centrally located?
Pedestrian friendly? I disagree. You would have to cross Detroit and West Blvd, and with those generous curb cuts that is not that pleasant. I suppose you could walk down Detroit, past Cudell Rec, cross West Blvd, and then cross the widest section of Detroit, but then you have to walk through a parking lot/bus cul-de-sac. That's not a pleasant walk either.

*Edited to add: Plus the lanes are super wide here and traffic speeds by.
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #113 on: March 15, 2016, 02:31:24 PM »
It's a straight shot west on Detroit Avenue. A 5-minute walk in a pedestrian-friendly setting. Granted it's at the outer edge of the 5-minute walking range of a station hinterland. But it's such a big parcel in a neighborhood that I had much higher hopes for it than this. Even a retailer/light industry/warehousing site would be preferable to the city kennel. Are there other city kennels or is this it? If so, how is this centrally located?
Pedestrian friendly? I disagree. You would have to cross Detroit and West Blvd, and with those generous curb cuts that is not that pleasant. I suppose you could walk down Detroit, past Cudell Rec, cross West Blvd, and then cross the widest section of Detroit, but then you have to walk through a parking lot/bus cul-de-sac. That's not a pleasant walk either.

*Edited to add: Plus the lanes are super wide here and traffic speeds by.

All easily fixable with some TOD minded planning.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #114 on: March 15, 2016, 02:38:12 PM »
All easily fixable with some TOD minded planning.
True, with TOD/FBC minded planning it could be fixed, but I don't have much faith in our traffic engineers.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #115 on: March 15, 2016, 02:38:28 PM »
Detroit is an easy, narrow street to cross at West 90th. West Boulevard is a wide crossing but there's a traffic island in the middle. The intersection should be made more angular to slow down traffic regardless.

This is the old Trinity site, no?

I know the info is out there, but does anyone know off-hand the current environmental status of the property and whether it's city-owned?

Correct. The site was cleaned by the city which owns the property. The city advertised it for sale a few years ago on its own website but I've never seen it listed for sale on the commercial sites like loopnet.
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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #116 on: June 02, 2016, 07:11:42 PM »
Well, at least it will be on the street. But what a waste of land so close to a rail station. Very few jobs. No housing. No retail. so no interaction with a high-density transit corridor. Just in case we're wondering why our rail system is so lightly used and will continue to be until we stop doing the following....

FAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW
FW2016-006 City Kennel New Construction: Seeking Final Approval
Project Address: 9007 Detroit Avenue
Project Representatives: Mike McAndrews, City of Cleveland
Mark Duluk, City of Cleveland
Note: this project received Conceptual Approval on March 18, 2016.





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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2016, 08:30:29 PM »
^ Where is the Dislike button.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2016, 08:47:47 PM »
What a huge waste of space. Why does the city continue to let Cleveland to be rebuilt in this fashion.

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Re: Cleveland: Cudell/West Boulevard Developments
« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2016, 10:54:01 PM »
A vacant lot is better than this.