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Offline GCrites80s

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1080 on: December 11, 2012, 10:34:48 AM »
^ They always had the Turtles arcade game when that came out, lol.

That undoubtedly led to kids eating cold pizza.

"Pizza's here!"

"But I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to beat Bebop and Rocksteady!"

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1081 on: December 11, 2012, 11:16:18 AM »
i wonder if the new lime in u square is the same lime in covington

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1082 on: December 11, 2012, 11:50:34 AM »
i wonder if the new lime in u square is the same lime in covington
it is not

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1083 on: December 11, 2012, 12:31:33 PM »
^lame

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1084 on: December 11, 2012, 12:38:58 PM »
^I could see Quiznos folding first. The subways are safe (one near Skyline/Ludlow, one on campus, and one in a gas station). Penn Station, Jimmy Johns, and Potbelly meet a different market than the others. If any fold it will be Quiznos, Firehouse, or DiBella.

You think they are safe even though they don't slice their meat... IN THE STORE!?!?!?

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1085 on: December 11, 2012, 08:40:02 PM »
I didn't even know Quizno's was still around. I thought they had gone under.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1086 on: December 13, 2012, 10:36:54 PM »
I'm surprised about the new (third?) Keystone location. Mac and Cheese monday will be popular with the students.

And yay for BD's Mongolian Grill!

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1087 on: December 13, 2012, 10:54:34 PM »
everyones gonna get fat.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1088 on: December 14, 2012, 06:21:29 AM »
^Haha my friend and I were actually joking about that. UC's student population is generally in pretty good shape. I'd attribute a lot of that to an awesome rec center combined with most students walking everywhere and the area being hilly. But with the announcement of Keystone and Waffle House I would bet that trend is over haha.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1089 on: December 14, 2012, 11:08:46 AM »
People talk about fast food being bad, but I guarantee these gigantic, rich fast casual portions are worse for people. All those calories and carbs.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1090 on: December 14, 2012, 04:35:02 PM »
^ There's nothing wrong with calories or carbs. Your body craves them for a reason. The problem is lethargic lifestyles. The human body did not evolve to eat big meals every night, and then lay on the couch. The human body evolved to milk as much energy out of as little food as possible. Until relatively recently humans mostly knew only famine, and lived very physically demanding lifestyles (hunting, farming, constant warfare, etc).  Because Americans don't do real physical labor anymore we do fake physical labor and call it "exercise."  :wink:
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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1091 on: December 14, 2012, 10:05:04 PM »
Some photos taken around U Square today.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1092 on: December 15, 2012, 08:18:13 AM »
I just wish they wouldn't put that EIFS stuff on there, just instantly says cheap to me. Otherwise I think it'll be okay.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1093 on: December 15, 2012, 08:56:55 AM »
Now that this project is far enough along to form a real opinion of it architecturally, I can say that I REALLY wish two things happened here differently. I wish the commercial building had one more story on it as it's a little short compared to everything else. Overall that building isn't bad looking so far though. Nothing that will have anyone studying its architecture, but certainly not offensive either. But if it were a story taller I think its proportions would work a lot better.

The other thing I wish had happened was the residential building had ANY sort of rhyme or reason to its elements. It is as if they came up with all these ideas, threw them together into one building, then called it a day. No refinement, no trimming of concept. Just ideas mashed together. There are certain elements, individually, that are decent and if a pattern or rhythm was set up they'd definitely work, but as it is the building is just a mess. I like what it does from an urban standpoint as it is definitely going to bring a lot more life to the area, but its an ugly building. Hell, I'd have enjoyed it if it was just the commercial building's design modified to be taller and to fit residential units. At least that building has an overall idea to it and everything, although not exciting, works together. This building, however, does not have that going for it. That and there are some really odd things happening up at the top. The second picture shows it best. That extension of the bump out that's a full story above the rest? Does anyone know if that's for something? There are several of those and they all look really out of place.f

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1094 on: December 15, 2012, 11:42:57 AM »
They're probably built in pilot houses for roof access. 

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1095 on: December 15, 2012, 12:16:23 PM »
Ah, that actually makes sense. I should've guessed that. I just wish they were somehow better integrated into the building. They're just so goofy looking proportionally and act as this random vertical element  in a LONG horizontal building. Hopefully in a few years once everything is finished and the trees are all planted and starting to reach the size of the trees already out front of UPA things will look better and more coherent/like a neighborhood.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1096 on: December 15, 2012, 01:48:54 PM »
I agree that the office building should have had a fourth floor. Looks so short and bizarre.

Other comments:
It looks better than the banks I think....glad there's more red brick, but wish there was less EIFS.  As a side note, City Council had put an IDC over Pleasant Ridge (my former neighborhood) business district when there were rumors that Anchor properties wanted to tear down half the business district for a super Walgreens last summer.  Because of that IDC still being in place, when the hideous Burger King came to the city for approval for a teardown and rebuild the city was able to push for solid brick cladding and almost no EIFS (only on back of building).  Wish they could have done that here!

Also, I'm really worried about the garages.  They are so hideous.  They seem to be cladding the very bottoms of them in a dark red brick, but I can't tell if they plan to continue or just do the pedestrian level in brick.  Any ideas?  I'd hate for that to stay concrete.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1097 on: December 15, 2012, 02:38:13 PM »
They should just go ahead and change the name to The Banks North.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1098 on: December 15, 2012, 03:11:07 PM »
^^I can't seem to find them online anymore (I'll try looking again later) but the renderings of the elevations that used to be on the former construction fences showed something more than what is done with the garages at the moment. If I remember correctly it appeared to be some sort of metal mesh screen that covered most of it. I haven't seen anything in person though to show any sort of point of connection for this. Hopefully it comes to fruition because they are MASSIVE and characterless at the moment.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1099 on: December 15, 2012, 04:32:38 PM »
^Is this what you're looking for?

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1100 on: December 15, 2012, 05:00:30 PM »
Ugly garage is ugly. I didn't realize they were doing that. Boo.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1101 on: December 16, 2012, 05:59:22 AM »
>Also, I'm really worried about the garages.  They are so hideous. 

Drive on WM H Taft over by Euclid/Auburn and look across the dip.  The garage towers above the Shell station.  What a total disaster.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1102 on: December 16, 2012, 11:24:29 AM »
^Is this what you're looking for?

Yep, thanks.

Although certainly not this super amazing, attractive thing, there appears to be at least enough going on that they won't feel quite as monstrous when finished. I have literally no idea what those red panels actually are, but they could possibly be somewhat interesting. Hopefully haha.

I still abide my my hopes/dreams that some developer will buy the Shell station and build an apartment building there that completely blocks out the garage. If that happens all will feel right again from the East.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1103 on: December 16, 2012, 03:26:00 PM »
^ we can only hope. Should be noted however, that might take awhile. Developer owns several more acres along Vine between Calhoun & McMillan which extends all the way past Scioto St. They would likely develop that before buying more property. Also, the shell would've pretty expensive as its one of the only gas stations in uptown.
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« Reply #1104 on: December 16, 2012, 10:18:47 PM »
The garage towers above the Shell station.  What a total disaster.

I agree. I was very disappointed with the way that looks.

I have literally no idea what those red panels actually are, but they could possibly be somewhat interesting. Hopefully haha.

Seems kind of a waste if it's just a red square. I wonder if they're something like what the Moerlein Lagerhouse has on its building, but UC related?

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« Reply #1105 on: December 17, 2012, 06:17:07 AM »
^That would be an interesting idea. They could change with whatever major is happening around UC. They'd certainly be fun and would help cover the garages at the same time.

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« Reply #1106 on: December 17, 2012, 06:46:39 AM »
^That would be an interesting idea. They could change with whatever major is happening around UC. They'd certainly be fun and would help cover the garages at the same time.

I disagree, I think this would look EXTREMELY tacky.

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« Reply #1107 on: December 17, 2012, 06:48:23 AM »
To add, I think they should cover each side with lattice work and let vines cover the walls.

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« Reply #1108 on: December 17, 2012, 06:52:06 AM »
To add, I think they should cover each side with lattice work and let vines cover the walls.

I like that.

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Re: Cincinnati: Clifton Heights: U Square @ the Loop
« Reply #1109 on: December 17, 2012, 11:18:16 AM »
Maybe you arch folks have some insight into this -- when a building is three stories tall that's the max for not having to put an elevator in, right? And at six stories is when you have to put in a much more elaborate fire safety system in, correct (at least in Columbus that's how it is)? So that's why you don't see as many four story buildings built because you might as well do five if you're going to be spending $500,000+ on a couple elevators.