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Offline McLovin

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Re: Cleveland: East Side Neighborhood Development
« Reply #120 on: June 05, 2012, 09:27:49 AM »
Hey, at least they're putting it on the sidewalk. But there's a Family Dollar only a block away. Wow.
And that's the exact reason I don't care for this being built I wish something better would be there...

Like what?  A Starbucks?
No but something that isn't a dollar store because one is a block away but I didn't know dollar stores boomed until I saw the story KJP posted so I guess it makes sense.  :|

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« Reply #121 on: June 05, 2012, 09:31:01 AM »
Still, I do think the two stores are awfully close to each other. But it's a free country, and if someone wants to start a new business at such a disadvantage and increase the risk of turning one or both of the stores into a vacancy someday, that's their call. Too bad the neighborhood has to suffer for it.
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« Reply #122 on: June 05, 2012, 09:36:02 AM »
I'm just happy they're building it up to the street.  If all the dollar stores and drugstores did that, I wouldn't find them nearly so objectionable.

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« Reply #123 on: June 05, 2012, 10:29:01 AM »
I'm just happy they're building it up to the street.  If all the dollar stores and drugstores did that, I wouldn't find them nearly so objectionable.

Now if we could just get them to build residential above! :D
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« Reply #124 on: June 05, 2012, 10:45:55 AM »
Still, I do think the two stores are awfully close to each other. But it's a free country, and if someone wants to start a new business at such a disadvantage and increase the risk of turning one or both of the stores into a vacancy someday, that's their call. Too bad the neighborhood has to suffer for it.

Just about every type of store does this for some reason- drug stores, discount superstores, groceries, hardware stores, they all locate as close as possible to the competition.  Makes no sense to anyone but them.

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« Reply #125 on: June 05, 2012, 11:12:53 AM »
I never understood it either. Must be hubris, with one company thinking they are so much better than the competition that they can push them out of a good location. I for one don't distinguish between CVS and Walgreen's, or Family Dollar and Dollar General. Ultimately a neighborhood can only support one store, so at least one of them is going to close.

The South Broadway neighborhood also probably can't support two Dollar stores. The new Dollar General is probably the better located of the two, but I would have preferred that it be at the corner of Harvard and Broadway, which was once one of those mini-downtowns that Cleveland used to have all over the place at major streetcar intersections. And there was once a busy Pennsylvania Railroad station here too....

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« Reply #126 on: June 05, 2012, 11:46:56 AM »
Stores like this and drug stores like to congregate at high visibility intersections where they can benefit from the traffic in either direction. They also prefer stand alone stores. Drugstores prefer this because it allows them room for their drive-thru pharmacies.

I think certain neighborhoods can support more than one store. Competition is good right? Maybe not the one the new dollar store is going in, but maybe the passing traffic changes that.
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« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2012, 11:27:58 AM »
Well here it is...

Based on the rendering it looks like it will be a neighborhood hotspot  :-P Even drawing whites from outside the area :roll:

« Last Edit: June 09, 2012, 11:29:21 AM by ClevelandOhio »

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« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2012, 12:04:02 PM »
LOL

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« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2012, 12:12:32 PM »
Is there a rule that all of our main streets have to be fronted with fences?  If so, time to get rid of it.  Can't tell if they're trying to keep wolves out or sheep in.  Or people out or people in.  Either way, it's inappropriate.

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« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2012, 08:32:59 PM »
^If you look very, very closely at the rendering, you can see that the fence keeps no one in and it keeps no one out.  It is merely decorative and there is nothing wrong with that, even if it isn't to your taste.

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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2012, 08:55:33 PM »
Yes, there is something wrong with giving main street pedestrians the fence treatment while the entrance faces a parking lot.  Pedestrian-oriented design is not a matter of taste.  This is better than the typical dollar store, but we're not quite there yet.  The improvement is noted.

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« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2012, 07:49:00 AM »
The door is on the sidewalk and the parking is to the side which probably makes people feel more secure in that neighborhood than if the parking lot was in back. So I don't believe the fence deters from pedestrianism here as long as those are real windows facing the street and not decorative. But I am concerned the fence could be function as a net for discarded receipts, bags, wrappers, and other trash.
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Re: Cleveland: East Side Neighborhood Development
« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2012, 09:40:13 PM »
In Collinwood, off East 152nd Street, U.S. Metal Forms and Tubes, Inc. owns one commercial property and three residential properties which it is seeking to demolish.......

14607 Velour Avenue
14610 Ingalton Avenue
14612 Ingalton Avenue
14614 Ingalton Avenue

The company's properties were condemned by the city and the owner cited, which the company is appealing to get more time to be able to demolish the structures. See:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2012/AGENDA06062012.pdf

It appears that U.S. Metal Forms and Tubes, Inc. is seeking to develop a former industrial site at or near 1145 Galewood Ave. This structure has housed multiple users recently as the Collinwood Enterprise Center, a business incubator. I am not able to find more details about this project or the company, except that it is based in Beltsville, MD.
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Re: Cleveland: East Side Neighborhood Development
« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2012, 12:13:46 PM »
I was driving down east 55th street and saw some people building a "natural gas" gas station. Anybody know anything about that or was that talked about before and I just missed it?

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« Reply #135 on: July 21, 2012, 08:44:40 AM »
From the choice neighborhoods section at CMHA website.  Hopefully the demolition and redevelopment of the rest of the older project style buildings will come out of this.  The Central neighborhood has had quite a transformation and actually grew last census. With the new focus on the Forgotten Triangle area hopefully we will see the same in that area as well.

"The Cuyahoga Metropolitan Housing Authority (CMHA) has been awarded a $300,000 Choice Neighborhoods Planning Grant from the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The planning grant will focus on the Central neighborhood adjacent to Cleveland’s downtown....Once completed, the plan will become the guiding document for the revitalization of the public housing units in the Cedar/Central Community, while simultaneously directing the transformation of the surrounding neighborhood and positive outcomes for families. The goal of this Choice Neighborhoods Planning Grant is to employ a comprehensive approach to neighborhood transformation."

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« Reply #136 on: August 05, 2012, 09:23:28 AM »
I was driving down Woodland yesterday and saw a sign saying E 115 and Woodland townhomes coming soon.  I searched CMHA website and found nothing...same with google. It was dark so I didn't really see the renderings or who was building it.

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« Reply #137 on: August 05, 2012, 10:41:13 AM »
This link mentions that the Town-homes will be a CMHA project..... :-(

Councilwoman Mitchell is also supporting and focusing on community and economic development in ward 6 in order to enhance the neighborhood to its full potential. She is fulfilling this objective by partnering to create economic benefits for Ward 6 and city residents by supporting projects such as the St. Luke’s Manor, Doubletree Hotel and Cleveland Metropolitan Housing Association’s East 115th-Woodland Townhome and Woodhill Homes Community Center projects.

http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/ward-6.aspx

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« Reply #138 on: August 05, 2012, 11:14:08 AM »
Thanks!

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Re: Cleveland: East Side Neighborhood Development
« Reply #139 on: August 08, 2012, 09:41:36 PM »
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2012/crr08-06-2012.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals
August 6, 2012
9:30
Ward 6
Calendar No. 12-120:
11525-29 Buckeye Road
Mamie Mitchel
19 Notices

Cleveland Housing Network, owner, appeals to construct a four-story apartment building on a 240’ x 187.90’ corner parcel in a C1 Local Retail Business District; contrary to Sec-tion 355.04(b) a maximum gross floor area of 40,290 square feet is proposed and 20,234 is allowed; and by the provisions under Section 349.04(a) one accessory off-street parking space is required per dwelling and 23 spaces are provided contrary to the requirement for 65; and subject to Sections 352.08 through 352.11, a landscape plan/schedule is re-quired with a minimum 6 feet wide landscaping strip that provides fifty percent year-round opacity where the parking lot fronts on East 116th Street; and a building height of 40 feet is proposed contrary to Section 353.01(b) that limits the height to 35 feet; and a front yard of 25 feet is required where 10 feet is proposed contrary to Section 357.04 in the Cleveland Codified Ordinances. (Filed 7-12-12)
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Re: Cleveland: East Side Neighborhood Development
« Reply #140 on: August 13, 2012, 09:16:03 PM »
This looks like the best place to post this...

Cleveland's old Slovenian neighborhood hopes a popup spurt sparks a revival
Published: Monday, August 13, 2012, 6:00 AM     Updated: Monday, August 13, 2012, 4:02 PM
By Robert L. Smith, The Plain Dealer


In the old Slovenian neighborhood of Cleveland, empty buildings with pedigree hunker down in patient silence, as if waiting for the good times to roll again on St. Clair Avenue.

You can almost hear the shuttered Croatian Bookstore at East 64th Street whispering "shhh" to the nearby Slovenian National Home, where the dance floor still thrums to polka parties but where most of the storefronts -- like much of the block -- stand empty and still.

Neighborhood planners hope a bold business strategy infuses new vigor into a ghostly shopping district and rather quickly. Like, all at once.
The St. Clair Superior Development Corp., working with the Urban League of Greater Cleveland, will take a crack at creating a popup neighborhood with permanence. Offering merchants free rent and other enticements, the partners plan to welcome 10 businesses simultaneously next month on a two-block stretch of St. Clair and let capitalism work its magic.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/08/clevelands_old_slovenian_neigh.html

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« Reply #141 on: August 14, 2012, 07:03:42 AM »
Another business in that same area.....

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2012/crr08-27-2012.pdf


Board of Zoning Appeals
August 27, 2012
9:30
Ward 7
Calendar No. 12-135:
6321 St. Clair Avenue
TJ Dow
16 Notices

Jessica Harris, owner, appeals for an expansion of use to include entertainment (ballroom) and rental apartments in an existing three-story building, located on a 100’ x 134.32’ corner lot in a C1 Local Retail Business District, where the proposed entertainment use, a ballroom, is not permitted under the limitations in Section 343.01 and first permitted in a General Retail Business District, provided it is distanced not less than 500 feet of a residential district, a school, public library, church, playground, public or non-profit recreation center or from another enter-tainment center in accordance with Section 343.11(b)(2)(L); and a maximum lot area coverage of 10,000 square feet is proposed contrary to Section 357.04(a) and 6,716 square feet that is allowed; and no front yard is pro-posed contrary to Section 357.04(a) and a required depth of 26 feet and there is no rear yard proposed where a depth of 20 feet is required under Section 357.08(b)(2); and 11 parking spaces are proposed contrary to Section 349.04(e) and a required 68 off-street spaces; no landscaping is proposed along East 64th Street where the park-ing abuts the street and a 6’ wide landscaped strip is required according to Section 352.11 in the Cleveland Codi-fied Ordinances. (Filed 7-31-12)
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« Reply #142 on: August 14, 2012, 08:49:58 PM »
Old remaining Garden Valley Housing Projects (how many other cities had projects with the same name?) are getting demolished finally.  Not sure when anything will go back in the place, but it should improve the looks of the area nonetheless.  They've been vacant for 3 years now.

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« Reply #143 on: August 20, 2012, 08:08:01 PM »
Anyone have more info on this? And is this near League Park?

City Planning Commission
Agenda for August 17, 2012

Resolution No. 1066-12(Ward 7/Councilmember Dow): Intent to vacate East 66th Place for residential redevelopment.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/08172012/index.php
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« Reply #144 on: August 20, 2012, 10:07:52 PM »
It appears to be the alley between 65th/66th and Quimby and Lexington, katty corner to the League Park ticket building.  That block has plenty of room for new housing.

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« Reply #145 on: August 22, 2012, 12:06:05 PM »
can multiple pop-ups turn around blighted strip in st. clair superior?
Thursday, August 16, 2012

Pop-up shops, business-plan competitions and storefront incubators have been successful at attracting new stores to trendy neighborhoods like Detroit Shoreway and Tremont. But can they turn around a blighted retail district and help sprout small businesses in a down-at-the-heels east side neighborhood?
 
That's the question Michael Fleming, Executive Director of the St. Clair Superior Development Corporation (SCSDC), is determined to answer in the affirmative ...

... More available at http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/stclairpopuphood081612.aspx
 

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« Reply #146 on: August 22, 2012, 12:26:44 PM »
Pop-up shops, business-plan competitions and storefront incubators have been successful at attracting new stores to trendy neighborhoods like Detroit Shoreway and Tremont. But can they turn around a blighted retail district and help sprout small businesses in a down-at-the-heels east side neighborhood?

People sure do have short memories. Or they just can't see how neighborhoods can/do change. Detroit-Shoreway and Tremont were pretty dumpy places not too long ago.
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« Reply #147 on: August 31, 2012, 03:00:47 PM »
This thread is devoted to news and discussion about the redevelopment of mostly African-American neighborhoods, primarily on the east-side. It seems that many developments, including those of a large-scale, have been overlooked on this board.

If there are already threads about a particular development project, please continue to post articles in those threads. If not, feel free to post them here rather than in the random developments thread.

THANK YOU for creating this thread.

$30+ million in construction projects will be taking place in Central and Kinsman in 2011:
http://www.bbcdevelopment.org/2011/01/bbcs-major-construction-projects-in-2011/

That doesn't include the redevelopment of the Garden Valley Estates (now called Heritage View Homes).

BBC development on the east side? Lol

On a side note, I read a whimsical feature in the PD the other day about bringing retail to Mt. Pleasant... Kinsman has amazing urban fabric and didn't seem too rough during the day when I was lost looking for Shaker Square last month...but I didn't get the sense of neighborhood potential. Is this legit or just spinning the wheels for grants?

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« Reply #148 on: August 31, 2012, 04:09:08 PM »
^It's hard to imagine much of a retail revival on Kinsman, IMHO, as the population density and spending power drops.  Those trends are unlikely to change anytime soon.  A good comp might be Buckeye Road, which has a large suburban-style shopping center, and then a bunch of street-front retail housing churches, social services, non-profits, day care centers, but relatively few private businesses.

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« Reply #149 on: August 31, 2012, 04:15:45 PM »
Kinsman totally sucks from 55th to 93rd.  I drive it everyday.  The CMHA development looks nice but that's it.  That greenhouse facility being built near 55th is interesting