Cleveland: Ohio City: Development and News

[KJP]

Why is the Lakeview Terrace an attractive residential site? The old river channel is some old, ugly industrial/water filtration scenery. And even if it wasn't, how does CMHA justify demolishing and selling this large public housing site for market rate homes? I can see something more like Tremont Pointe (mixed income housing) going here. But the public housing complex that preceded Tremont Pointe was a humanitarian disgrace.

[surfohio]

Why is the Lakeview Terrace an attractive residential site? The old river channel is some old, ugly industrial/water filtration scenery.

True, but don't tell that to this couple lol.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/86/f4/e486f469d500f7c4476b13618a016438.jpg

[YABO713]

Why is the Lakeview Terrace an attractive residential site? The old river channel is some old, ugly industrial/water filtration scenery. And even if it wasn't, how does CMHA justify demolishing and selling this large public housing site for market rate homes? I can see something more like Tremont Pointe (mixed income housing) going here. But the public housing complex that preceded Tremont Pointe was a humanitarian disgrace.

I remember that as a kid, @KJP. Leaving church at St. John Cantius, hopping on the highway and seeing what appeared to be an entirely different world.

[YABO713]

Also, the windows on Quarter look incredible. I really like what I am seeing thus far.

[freefourur]

Lot's of good stuff happening on Detroit Avenue.  Can't wait for Church and State.

[YABO713]

^Any updates on when that may happen?

[KJP]

Lot's of good stuff happening on Detroit Avenue.  Can't wait for Church and State.

Should always keep those two separated.

[freefourur]

^Any updates on when that may happen?

we have to be patient
 

[KJP]

What is Church/State?

[freefourur]

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_apartment_proposal_w.html

[KJP]

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_apartment_proposal_w.html

Ah, thanks. I get why the one building is called Church, since Church Street is just south of Detroit Avenue. But why is the other, smaller building dubbed "State"?

[kabemt]

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_apartment_proposal_w.html

Ah, thanks. I get why the one building is called Church, since Church Street is just south of Detroit Avenue. But why is the other, smaller building dubbed "State"?

It is a play on the phase "A separation of church and state." That is what the path between the two buildings is being referred to as.

[KJP]

Which is what I was attempting to humorize upthread to cover my ignorance about what project this was. Ok, so I was close!

[freefourur]

West 29th Street was once State Street.

[KJP]

VIDEO: Inside the new $60 million apartment complex being built in Ohio City https://t.co/cEI2WF1GVv

[viscomi]

 Building demolished on Lorain for the new urban Squash facility. From Saturday 11/25/17.

[Mendo]

Another apartment development in Ohio City, this one at Lorain and W. 41st. I like the somewhat-classic design and think it'll fit in well on the street. Though if this goes anything like the proposed apartments at W. 44th, they'll come back a month from now looking like this mess.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/index.php

[KJP]

Most of the changes appear to be on the south side of the buildings...

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/index.php

Case 17-064
Ohio City Historic District
Seymour and Forest City Bank Buildings
2501-2529 Detroit Avenue
Renovation
Ward 3
McCormack
Peter Snavely
Snavely Group
Gary Ogrocki
Dimit Architects

[jeremyck01]

Another apartment development in Ohio City, this one at Lorain and W. 41st. I like the somewhat-classic design and think it'll fit in well on the street. Though if this goes anything like the proposed apartments at W. 44th, they'll come back a month from now looking like this mess.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/index.php

I love that "mess"! It's more of the modern architecture Cleveland needs.  Lots of buildings with similar designs going up here in LA and, by and large, they look great.

[surfohio]

Another apartment development in Ohio City, this one at Lorain and W. 41st. I like the somewhat-classic design and think it'll fit in well on the street. Though if this goes anything like the proposed apartments at W. 44th, they'll come back a month from now looking like this mess.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/12072017/index.php

I love that "mess"! It's more of the modern architecture Cleveland needs.  Lots of buildings with similar designs going up here in LA and, by and large, they look great.

Any of you guys see the architectural renderings in one of the storefronts by Platform Brewing? They are nothing official, but I really dig the design. I'll try and find a pic of them somewhere.....

[PoshSteve]

Love the Snavely remodel plans - especially the solar panel covered parking. If we have to have parking lots, that's the way they should be done. Not a fan of the colored accent lighting though. I feel like that is getting overdone now in the city. It seems like every historic building now either has or is getting the same lighting. Even the top of the standard building now has it. The special-ness has been taken away and has now become ordinary.

[KJP]

This section of Detroit Avenue is popping. This brick building (Schaefer Printing) is coming along in its apartment conversion. The vacant lot in the foreground (with the horse trailer) is the proposed site of  the Church and State apartment buildings.



Getting some decent density along this stretch of Detroit Avenue between West 25th-28th...

[PoshSteve]

^ I'm pretty sure the Schaefer building finished up the conversion awhile ago. I remember walking by Labor Day night and you could tell people were already living there.

[KJP]

$5 million doesn't sound like a lot for a quality, historic restoration. Then again, it is Montlack...

Ohio City office building to be restored to its apartment roots
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20171210/news/145121/ohio-city-office-building-be-restored-its-apartment-roots

[surfohio]

$5 million doesn't sound like a lot for a quality, historic restoration. Then again, it is Montlack...

Ohio City office building to be restored to its apartment roots
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20171210/news/145121/ohio-city-office-building-be-restored-its-apartment-roots

Montlack said his father, Malcolm Montlack, had advocated for property in Ohio City for years because he felt the market there was improving.

Woooo, great call Nostradamus!

[PoshSteve]

Glad to finally see something happening with that building. It really is a jewel.

[X]

$5 million doesn't sound like a lot for a quality, historic restoration. Then again, it is Montlack...

Ohio City office building to be restored to its apartment roots
http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20171210/news/145121/ohio-city-office-building-be-restored-its-apartment-roots

I don't know, it really isn't that large of a building.  I didn't see a total sf in the article.

[donking]

Based on this page about the Heyse Building (Mark Fremont Architects), it looks like the building is a little over 24,000 square feet total. I'm not sure if the posted plans on that site are still accurate (or if this architect is, in fact, working on the project), but it does outline 31 units.

http://www.fremontassoc.com/the-heyse-building/mv3n5xp5uwre1w8o2j5zywte6ntzg1

[YABO713]

That building is a block away from me. I find it so beautiful. Additionally, it looks like there are some sizable terraces on the top floors. I believe they'd have close to an unimpeded view of the skyline.

[X]

$208/sq ft.  How does that compare to recent historic renovations?